Freedom of Speech in America and the anti-Islam Movie

We understand the anger stemming from the anti-Islam film. In his speech Tuesday to the UN, President Obama described the video ‘Innocence of Muslims’ as “crude and disgusting” and an insult “not only to Muslims, but to America as well.” There is no doubt that many Americans feel this way.

It’s important to understand that this was a low-budget, amateurish film produced by an individual with private funding, and that individuals in the U.S. are not required to register with a government agency before writing and publishing a book or producing a film. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said on several occasions, “Let me state very clearly, and I hope it is obvious, that the United States government had absolutely nothing to do with this video.”

Of equal importance is what Secretary Clinton went on to say: “We absolutely reject its content and message. America’s commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation, and as you know, we are home to people of all religions, many of whom came to this country seeking the right to exercise their own religion, including of course, millions of Muslims, and we have the greatest respect for people of faith.”

Many users on various social forums throughout the Muslim world have wondered in recent weeks why the U.S. didn’t simply ban the video. President Obama addressed this question in Tuesday’s speech at the UN, saying, “The answer is enshrined in our laws: Our Constitution protects the right to free speech. Here in the United States, countless publications provoke offense. Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. As president of our country, and commander-in-chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so.”

We understand that there are different views around the world about the outer limits of free speech. This is well and good – in fact, it is largely because there is *value *in differing opinions that we have laws protecting free speech. But surely we can agree that violence in response to speech is not acceptable.

Capt. Joseph Kreidel
DET-United States Central Command
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Freedom of speech or Islamophobia?

Islamophobia as free speech – a notion that escapes many Muslims - latimes.com

Righteous condemnation erupted worldwide Wednesday after an anti-Islam video incited mobs in Libya and Egypt and fed into the radical Islamic narrative that the United States is waging war against Muslims.

Religious and political leaders denounced the attacks on U.S. diplomatic venues that killed four Americans in Benghazi, Libya, and inflicted new strains on Washington’s relations with the neophyte leadership of Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi. They also slammed the Islamophobic fringe behind the video they said was clearly crafted to outrage Muslims and fuel the fires of a global holy war driven by hate-filled extremists.

The provocative video and the incendiary response it triggered have also raised fears of further attacks on U.S. targets overseas, especially after Friday prayers at mosques throughout the Muslim world, warn Middle East watchers. Unless government leaders and clerics of all faiths act to tamp down the flames lit by extremists, the analysts say, exaggerated visions of a holy war could become a reality in countries just emerging from authoritarian rule and unfamiliar with Americans’ broad definitions of free speech and artistic expression.

“Like anywhere else, there are informed, educated people who have traveled and have experiences with other cultures who are able to make a differentiation. That applies increasingly to the middle classes of the region, to the youth of the region who are plugged into social media,” said Frederic Wehrey, a senior associate with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and frequent visitor to Libya.

“That said,” he added, “there are people for whom this event [the video] confirms a long-standing prejudice and belief that no amount of education and contact can change and that is not rooted in anything the United States does.”

As most Egyptians and Libyans came of age under governments that controlled the press, broadcast and film, Wehrey said, “it’s hard for them to disaggregate the fringe from official media.” Or to distinguish between the handful of Christian zealots believed to be behind the video and the multitudes of more moderate adherents to faiths other than Islam.

Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood leader elected Egyptian head of state after the fall of the 30-year autocracy of Hosni Mubarak, called on the United States on Wednesday to prosecute the makers of the purported film, “Innocence of Muslims,” from which a 14-minute trailer posted on YouTube was said to be taken. The actual film has yet to surface.

The video clips, which depict the Islamic prophet Muhammad as a savage and a sexual deviant, set off a heated debate in the United States about the intersection of the 1st Amendment right to free expression and the dangerous consequences of hate speech and religious intolerance.

Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney brought the issue to the political fore with his criticism of the Obama administration for a U.S. Embassy statement in Cairo condemning "the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.‘’ Romney cast the statement as “a terrible course for America to stand in apology for our values.”
Among Egyptians and Libyans only recently liberated from authoritarian rule, the idea that Americans are free to express even outrageously distorted views “is really not understood at all,” said Isobel Coleman, a U.S. foreign policy expert at the Council on Foreign Relations.

“Reflect on how well Americans understand, when they are reading about extremists overseas, how representative that is of those societies. The answer is that it is not well understood at all,” said Coleman. “The fact that Morsi is calling for prosecuting the makers of the film indicates he really doesn’t understand how our system works or that he is playing this naively.”

Coleman and other veteran analysts of the Muslim world see the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans as a well-prepared and heavily armed strike by Al Qaeda foot soldiers timed to Tuesday’s 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.

The deaths of the Americans and the violence in both Libya and Egypt “must be condemned unequivocally,” said Rabbi David Saperstein, head of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism. He likewise denounced the dissemination of the video, which he said was “clearly crafted to provoke, to offend and to evoke outrage.”

The Benghazi attack appeared to be the work of militants who had been looking for an opportunity to express murderous outrage at the war against Muslims they contend the United States is waging, said Michael Collins Dunn, editor of the Middle East Journal.

The U.S. diplomatic venues were “caught in the crossfire of two ignorant armies: rabid Islamophobes determined to attack the prophet of Islam on the one hand, and the most extreme Islamists on the other, determined to avenge him,” Dunn said of the reciprocal incitements.

“Both consider that there is a war to the death between Islam and the West. There is not, yet,” Dunn said. “It is important for people of goodwill on all sides to prevent their vision from becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.”

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We appreciate that the highest officials of the US have disassociated themselves from the movie and we also understand that this movie does not represent American people in general. But we want the international community in general and the United States in particular to understand that some people will continue to misuse the freedom of expression until a clear red line is drawn. Over 1.5 billion Muslims are not meant to be a plaything for the whims of a few individuals. Your hands must stop where my collar begins.

Our whole world revolves around our Prophet (PBUH) — Prophet of love, peace and blessings. Violence was never His teachings and we do not condone violence. He had directed us to protect foreign envoys at all costs, the death of your envoy in Libya is thus a collective failure and a moment of shame for the entire Muslim world. Can you note that these directives from our Prophet (PBUH) came long before the Geneva Convention was implemented?

We appreciate freedom of expression as long as there is a red line which separates Prophets from human beings — be it yours or ours.

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Freedom of Speech is a biased excuse behind all this. Violence that happened either in retaliation by the uneducated (Islamically uneducated, that is) or by those who chose to use the opportunity to defame Islam through violence has no place in the religion of Islam.

There is nothing that I will buy from this post of yours Capt.

US officials including Hillary Clinton have got it ALL wrong. They failed to distinguish the Freedom of Speech in constitution with Hate Speech. Hate speech, where this despicable 15 minutes of movie fall under. Sadly, what was supposed to be a 2-minute fame stunt, turned out to be a center of attention.

There are laws protecting Anti-Semitism or denial of Holocaust. Why the bias against the most beloved person to Muslims even more beloved than a person’s own family and own life?

US stand on this issue is a clear depiction of ignorance to the culture of Muslims in any civilization of world where respect of All Prophets (including Jesus, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Adam etc.) is different than the respect given in US media.

Respect given to Jesus in US media suggests that while people will believe that Jesus is their savior but at the same time they mock and laugh at him by the jokes made by David Letterman on the possibility of Jesus having a wife. That’s utter disrespect in our views and would make Jesus sad himself. How can one claim and expect of getting saved by the one he mocks himself? :slight_smile:

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Amal, disassociating and rejecting is fine. I am not sure if they "condemned" it ever? did they?

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Obama, Hillary, Romney, Kerry and General Dempsey, all have condemned the movie, though they also condemned the killing of ambassador Stevens and violence across the Muslim world, which we also do. But I liked the way UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon came out against the movie. He was plain, direct and straight and without any ifs and buts in his condemnation of the movie.

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^Any videos of him? I mean his speech?

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^ You can google and see everyone's reaction. I have heard Obama condemned the movie even at the UN...couldn't see the video or the exact wording... but he did condemn the movie in his earlier statements.

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That's very nice of them to codemn it. I would like to google for Ban Ki-Moon's take on it.

However, I feel sorry for all the US officials for their powerless regime in their own country where they are helpless and terrorised in the hands of zionist media such as google/youtube who outright rejected their "request" to remove the movie.

I guess, since it's election year in USA, Obama administration does not want Israel to be against it :)

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Are there laws in the US against anti-semitic material and denial of Holocaust or are they just considered social and cultural taboos.

If there ARE laws and such activity is criminalized, then there should be equal laws to protect against such blasphemy and hurting the sentiments of Muslims as they protect the sentiments of the Jewish people.

Freedom of expression should not be misused to hurt the feelings of people of one faith or the other.

However, if it's just social and cultural taboo, then what to do ?

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^ There is no legislation in the US that proscribes anti-semitic activities or denial of Holocaust. However, the society understands that it's an undeclared no-go territory which is thus not trespassed. In a way, you can say it's socially forbidden and culturaly prohibited.

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That is true.

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My thing is that we should stop burning US flags and chanting anti US slogans. I still cant figure out what USA has to do with this movie and how comes its their responsibility to ban the movie or punish the producer. The only connection US has is that the guy lives here. That is it.

If we Muslims have an issue with the movie (which we should) then we should take the matter to international courts. It is my request to all the Muslims that please do not associate US with this whole crap. Majority of US media, US leadership and majority of public condemned the movie. Even the actress who worked in that movie was shocked because she was told differently during the film making about the subject of movie. She sued the producer.

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We have become obsessed with burning flags, especially American flags. I also believe that American people and government have nothing to do with this crap movie and they have come forward to denounce the movie appropriately.

My only problem with the US government is that they should take steps to ensure that no blockhead misuses the freedom of expression and set two people or religions against each other.

Having said that, I also understand that no one can actually rule out recurrence of such idiocy. Muslims need to ask themselves how long will they kill envoys and burn their own properties for the insanity of a few dingbats?

Teachings of our Prophet, May Peace Be Upon Him, and His own life throughout, are all about tolerance. Time for some introspection?

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I was gonna post about the actress and the law suit.

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This is not an isolated incident. Before that you had pastor Terry Jones burning the Quran, now he wants to spread his message to other countries including Canada. Then you had American soldiers desecrating the Quran. Then you had drunk soldiers killing civilians.