France wary of it's Pakistani community

Looks like France is planning to closely monitor all the Pakistanis in France. Last week US admitted to taping Pakistanis in Lodi, CA for couple of years.

http://www.ttc.org/200508081232.j78cwfq24975.htm

FRANCE WARY OF ITS PAKISTANI COMMUNITY
Received Monday, 8 August 2005 12:32:00 GMT
PARIS, Aug 8 (AFP) - The Pakistani community in France and elsewhere in Europe is now, more than ever, being watched by intelligence services concerned about its role as a breeding ground for Islamic extremism that could give rise to attacks like those seen in London last month, French experts say.

The daily Le Figaro said Monday that a confidential report by France's intelligence service that was finalised days before the July 7 London bombings pointed to the threat of an Al-Qaeda attack on Britain.

It said the report by the DCRG intelligence agency also highlighted the need to closely observe France's 40,000-strong Pakistani community with a view to preventing an attack on French soil.

An interior ministry official confirmed the existence of the report, but cautioned that it was "a very technical study on the Pakistani community in France."
He said it was not aimed at lecturing Britain on what might happen on its own soil.

According to the report quoted by Le Figaro, those plotting an attack could count on the "support of jihadists within the large Pakistani community in Britain" and warned: "France is not immune from this kind of violent group."

The report pointed to "the multiplication of passages through France by Pakistani activists from south Asia or London and the setting up of underground or official representations of the main extremist groups".

Louis Caprioli, a former anti-terrorism officer with France's DST counter-espionage agency who is now a consultant with the private security firm Geos, told AFP that the Pakistani community in France "insofar as it has elements practising Islamic fundamentalism, has always attracted the attention of the (intelligence) services."

"That started in the 1990s, when it emerged that Pakistan was a transit point for jihad training in Afghanistan," he said.

Richard Reid, the British "shoe bomber" who failed in a bid to bring down a Paris-Miami flight in December 2001, notably had connections with Pakistanis in France, he said.

Dominique Thomas, a specialist in radical Islam, also raised the case of Reid. "He went to a certain number of cybercafes in Paris and in the suburbs that are run by Pakistanis, so it's logical that since that time, the RG (the domestic intelligence service) has interested itself in that milieu of small shops and movements established in France."

He added that Pakistanis living in France were "very dynamic economically speaking" and said that "it is completely plausible that Pakistanis in France might be close to movements in Pakistan which has ideologies founded on political Islam."

Pakistan, Thomas said, "is one of the major sources of Islamic thought, it's the country of the movement that was at the origin of the Taliban. There are several very powerful organisations there. It's not surprising that the Pakistanis in France are close to those organisations."

But, he cautioned: "That doesn't necessarily make them Al-Qaeda activists."

For Mariam Abu Zahab, an expert on Pakistan at France's Centre of International Studies and Research, it was important to highlight a difference in the makeup of the Pakistani communities in Britain and in France.

Britain has many Pakistani Kashmiris who she said were influenced by Islamic extremism because of the separatist insurrection against India that has raged in their home region since 1989.

"In France there are a majority of Punjabi, who are here mainly to do business and make money. You will find a few dozen youths ready to mobilise or go to summer camps in Kashmir to show off to their friends when they return. ... But I've never met any myself," she said.
As a result, the Pakistani community in France "is nothing like the British one," she said.

Re: France wary of it's Pakistani community

I'm afraid this is going to become a trend in other countries too.

Re: France wary of it’s Pakistani community

It will be more trouble at airports with suspicious security staff.

Paris Police Arrest Pakistani Carrying Fake U.K. Passports

Aug. 9 (Bloomberg) – A Pakistani man carrying fake U.K. identity documents was arrested at a Paris airport, and is being questioned by France’s anti-terrorist unit, police said.

Mohammed Billal Youssaf, 23, was arrested when he passed through customs at Charles de Gaulle airport on Aug. 7 on arrival from the Pakistani city of Lahore. He was found to be carrying five fake British passports and five driving licenses, Paris police spokeswoman Catherine Driguet said today.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=a4tWtxaBwK7I&refer=uk

Re: France wary of it's Pakistani community

Typical Pakistani bashing............there is no shortage of anti-islamic and anti-Pakistani people.

Re: France wary of it's Pakistani community

France has got a guilty conscience just like any other colonial state, if you ain't done nothing wrong to other people in the past and currently then you got nothing to worry about only the ones feeling guilty are worried i.e britain, france, italy, united snakes, russia!

Re: France wary of it's Pakistani community

^ that's not true. If one country is doing that may be but so many are suspicious now.

And United snakes? who gave F16s?

Re: France wary of it's Pakistani community

//France has got a guilty conscience just like any other colonial state, if you ain't done nothing wrong to other people in the past and currently then you got nothing to worry about only the ones feeling guilty are worried i.e britain, france, italy, united snakes, russia!//

Then in the same token, the so called Islamic countries are worrying because of the wrong done by these countries in the past and currently !!!.

Re: France wary of it's Pakistani community

snif snif there will be even less pakis at home crying there were already very few pakis so if my govt is scaring them off....i'll have only GS left crying as much as the indian monsoon

Re: France wary of it’s Pakistani community

tell me who never sinned? so everybody is worried about some backlash, na?
but there is a difference btw worrying and being paranoid like the US…so far france ain’t paranoid cause we french enjoy life to much to let some stupid terrorist waste our lifes…but anti immagration and anti muslim feelings exist in France since long time… I mean first terrorist attacks from muslim terrorists happened in France in 1995…so as pakis are muslim and immigrants they are not the most welcome for some stupid racist people:(

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That’s depressing the way everyone is sooo suspecting of Pakis and Muslims.. I wish we was all just living back home, no Paki in his right mind would want to leave their land, family, parents, hometown for these countries to be scattered all over the globe away from home and be treated like shiiit but sighhh it’s necessary for economic betterment…

Re: France wary of it's Pakistani community

looks like everyone is eating same bull$hit