Forum Rules on support for Terrorism

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700 out of 714 killed in drone attacks were pakistani civilians, for the 14 no bodies have been produced....there is TTP, which is mostly indigenous to Pakistan...

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You should ask the leaders of that area, why they were providing hide outs to the known terrorist and Anti-Pakistani elements, or give us the plan on how Pakistani forces can track the terrorists down in an area where locals are not cooperating.

I dont know much details of the events nowadays, but in past, those are the reasons why army moves to the deadly force tactic to eliminate culprits.

Those soldiers that are getting throat slashed are not slave of my father or goats and cows that their killing is justified. They are our Pakistani brothers too. I hope that you feel the same pain for them and their families as you feel for those 700 pakistanis.

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I got same treatment from him and another moderator. They try to forcefullly label you as Taliban for reason that you do not favor a military operation in tribal belt.

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WOW , MQM had a reason to retaliate against Pak Army and torture , drill holes in skulls and burn people alive.........beause their sons and brothers were kidnapped by intelligence and were never found............Now

Mr TLK my Question to you is ( GET YOUR READING GLASSES SIR)

Question : Thousands got orphaned by Pakistani backed drone attacks in tribal area. Tribal villages bombed indiscriminately by Pak Army and Air force, Children and Women dieing in tribal mud houses and even then I am not justifing taliban act, though they seem to have a valid reason to be against Pakistani army and Generals of this era.....DO you Disagree?

How would you explain that Mr TLK?

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They are not Pakistani citizens. They have no right (vaild or invalid) to be against or act against our soldiers and if they do, then you should morally allow indians to come and behead our soldiers also.

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You have Brits who protest against war in Afghanistan and Iraq and then here in Canada you have white Canadians who demand calling their soilders back from Afghanistan...nobody calls them a Taliban supporter....but our.....

Mr Browns , have this outsider's extreme anxiety to please the host ( USA, CANADA, UK) by justifying military operations and killing of innocent people.

Get it straight Mr Browns( Slave mentalities), Your Host countries won't kick you out for being Anti War...... please learn to respect freedom of expression and alternative views.

Your being more hawkish towards your own kind ( Desies) Doesnt make u a better American, Canadian or Brit. Please get out from this inferiority complex!

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If these indigenous Pakistanies ( Tribals , swaties and waziris ) are not Pakistani in your eyes...then

MQM is not Pakistani in our eyes...they have no connection to our Land. Be reminded they came from India. I consider Pashtuns more Pakistanies than indian immigrants settled in Karachi

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Please dude, you start calling me names wont make you a better debater on this topic. Brits and Canadians are asking their soldiers to come back from some other country. You are expecting our soldiers, not to defend Pakistan with in our own country. Swat does not belong to Talibans, it belongs to Pakistan. All the FATA agencies and their politcal agents sit in our national assembly. Its our land and we have every right to clean it from the outsider trouble makers.

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Sure, people who entered Pakistan from West border in last 2 years are Pakistanis, those who came to Pakistan 60 years ago are not ..

You have every right to have an opinion, but that right does not make your opinion a right opinion.

and you are continuously mixing Talibans with Pashtuns and Indian Immigrants with MQM. You really need to learn to differentiate between them.

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In last, i dont see what this conversation has anything to do with GS policies. GS policies are not going to change when it comes to foreigners, who on the name of self made Islam, are posing a constant threat to our country by using terrorism.

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Its not specific to anybody...Mr Brown is a state of mind that applies to many desies. So, please dont take it personally.

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Ok, done, not taken personally..

Lets get over with this whole issue now. GS policy is clear on this issue and is going to remain same.

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Personally, I do not agree with such a rule. Just like how I opposed the banning of Indians on GS, I would oppose this as well. Let people engage in discussions and as long as they do not get personal, let them sort it out in a debate. Splitting, moving posts for the heck of it is only making the PA forum slow, lousy, and uninteresting. There was a time it was much better than Pak Defence, and other such forums though I cant say the same now. Some posters are banned without even getting to their 100 point limits. Whats the use of this point based system then (does it even work)?

Coming back to the topic. another thing which some people need to realize is that there is alot more than meets the eye to this. In the name of Talibanization, a genocide will start in KArachi to eradicate the Pakhtun community in Karachi, by another terrorist organization known as the MQM. Let people explain themselves if you cannot fathom that instead of just banning them or supressing their voices outright. Opposing the MQM does not mean supporting the Taliban. Infact, the MQM is the Taliban of the south, its just that they do the same exact things a little differently.

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Well said, and I think many members need to learn that lesson .

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Sounds like something MQM would say or do...paraphrasing from Imran Khan, they (MQM) would kill someone and show up at their funeral to condole...

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hahaha .. your implications that I am from MQM is not going to make me one .. good try though

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You all make very good points, and your opinions are valid. The purpose of Pakistan Affairs/World Affairs, is to let you express your opinion. In some cases, PA team has encouraged members to engage others in a dialogue that will work to clear any misconceptions about who is a real extremist and who is merely confused to be one. Generalization is something when spread, can taint any good conversation.

The policy is specific to the point that you DO NOT glorify Taliban (as they're known by name), or any other individual(s)/Group(s) that are known to be harmful to the existence of Pakistan. You are allowed to discuss the difference between those who really are a threat to Pakistan in the name/guise of Taliban and those who mean no harm and are merely confused with being Anti-State.

The policy in no way prohibits you to voice your opinion, so as long you do not glorify the killing of Pakistani Armed Forces/Innocent Civilians, or damage to State Infrastructure.

We can all learn from each other when we engage in a discussion that is not only intelligent, but serves to spread the knowledge. Other times, it's best to agree to disagree and move beyond getting personal. At the end of the day, our opinions are just that; Our Opinions. Either we can present our points of view for all to see in a manner that is permissible according to guidelines or come off as someone who has no regard for rules and prove incredible and unworthy.

Follow the guidelines set forth, and it will make everyone's posting experience that much more enjoyable. The guidelines are set after extreme consideration for the right of others' views, so please don't undermine the work put into creating the atmosphere that allows you to share your views.

Now as far as the issue of MQM vs. Taliban goes, you can argue and demonize the one you disagree with, but keeping in mind that it maybe the opening of pandora's box and just as you expect others' to tolerate your view, you must also be able and willing to tolerate others' views. It's a two-way road. There are a number of threads where each is put under the dim light and shown for what each is capable of, so clearly the moderators are not out to set a "liberal/secular" standard that you must follow. You are reminded to follow guidelines, that's all. At the same time you are given a part of responsibility that you can report posts that you think may be out of line, in doing so you'll be doing your part as a member to better moderate Pakistan Affairs.

We're all a part of the same team with different roles.

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I think bitter_reality and somali_pirate are the same people

notice how both their nicknames have the same format, with an underscore seperating it

and notice how somali_pirate who just joined gupshup is already involved in deep discussions and backing up bitter_reality......

this is just a lame attempt by bitter_reality who will probably get banned soon to continue posting his Taliban Love Affair Stories through somali_pirate