Farah90
October 6, 2010, 11:58pm
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Re: Fortune tellers
^You’re giving all the credit to Prophet Yusuf (AS). When according to a hadith dreams are from Allah. It’s not that Prophet Yusuf was psychic himself…rather…it was an ability that was granted to him by Allah. Hazrat Isa (AS) could do something far more miraculous…he could raise the dead…but we don’t believe that Isa (AS) was “magical” in any way…rather that his ability…which is strictly divine ability and confined only to Allah…was given to him. To attribute such divine characteristics to either of them…is shirk. That’s what you’re forgetting here. Also, they were prophets. Now…there are Islamic references (hadith) regarding dreams…but all this other stuff like…astrology and numerology…not so much.
“I mean you can’t tell someone will conquer the world just by looking at their clothes or looks”…LOL! Alexander was born into a royal family…His father, Philip II, was king of Macedon. His father used diplomacy and militaristic strategies to bring many parts of the empire together to create a strong kingdom that was eventually taken over by Alexander after his assassination. So, you’re right…the oracle…DID MORE…than just base the prediction of conquering the world by looking at the rich and luxurious garb of Alexander. The oracle also had to take into account the background of the person in order to make the “prediction.” And in this case…Alexander belonged to a royal background…so that must have been taken into account when forming a foretelling. Also…I wonder…how many people of royalty were given such lofty predictions such as “You will be king of the world…you will conquer the world…the world will be at your feet.” It’s not entirely impossible to conjecture that the fortune-tellers would “fear” giving a royal person a less than savory prediction…for fear of it being “off with their heads.” Something to think about. And I’ve read…and even watched on the History Channel…that some of the fortune-tellers …mumbled oracular chants…in a frenzied state. This “frenzied” state could have even been the result of some drug or substance which induced hallucinations. And if you mention people like Nostradamus…his predictions have either been tampered with…and are too broad or weak…to be considered truly clairvoyant.
Oh and here’s another thing to consider. In order for something to be considered truly valid…and more than just a pseudoscience…there needs to be some consistency. Let’s take Astrology for example. You have Western astrology…and Indian astrology. Even the dates for the zodiac signs don’t match up. What about a situation where two fortune-tellers have ENTIRELY DIFFERENT predictions about the same person? Then what? Lack of consistency would make one question the validity of the practice. And I think it’s the lack of consistency that makes most people skeptical in the first place.
Predicting is a common place practice. The word “fortune-telling” sends connotation of magical abilities or supernatural powers/insight that is attributed to the person…and I feel that it’s more common sense and observation than magic. As far as lines on a palm are concerned…lines are fascinating because they’re so different. But nobody’s fingerprint is the same either. I think all of this is tempting to read for fun/time-pass…but it’s better to put more faith in the one who created those lines on your palm in the first place.
So is that what you do Redvelet? Pick on the seemingly false points of others and write paragraphs on them? I also mentioned that orcales mentioned of Ceaser’s Assassination the EMPEROR of ROME! So i guess they didn’t think much when they were saying “Oh yeah Ceaser you’ll be dead soon. But we’re not afraid to die because you’ll get angry at us telling your assassination date.”
So yeah they saw Caesar’s clothes and expression his face said “yeah this guy looks he’s about to die soon” Come on!
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