Former Pakistan PMs in poll pact (Bhutto and Sharif)

[Zakk]

Re: Former Pakistan PMs in poll pact (Bhutto and Sharif)

Some Mush gems of wisdom since we are all mentioning the past:

Mushs spokesperson post october 1999 ‘while others may have tried to hang on to power, we will not. We will make history’.

Musharraf: ‘All I can say ‘Is that I am not going to perpetuate myself … I can’t give any certificate on it but my word of honour. I will not perpetuate myself’

[Captain1]

Re: Former Pakistan PMs in poll pact (Bhutto and Sharif)

^ everyone who gets at top finds him/herself in love with the power with almost no accountability :D

[mYsTeRiOuS_gUy]

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Guys don’t call NS ganja because his new hairstyle is AWESOME :d
http://www.gulf-times.com/mritems/images/2006/4/25/2_83443_1_248

[Silly_Billy]

Re: Former Pakistan PMs in poll pact (Bhutto and Sharif)

Benazir Bhutto on Nawaz Sharif:-

**Justifying the coup, she said that Sharif “created conditions” for the military take over. “He has sought to dismantle democracy...

**and on General Musharraf:-

he is motivated by patriotism.”
**
“a courageous and bold professional, committed to civilian order.”**

[Haris]

Re: Former Pakistan PMs in poll pact (Bhutto and Sharif)

But BB and NS signing a code of conduct and coining ethical procedures is like bandits composing laws. Composing laws and codes etc is great, but in this case we'd better "look who's talking"...

[Capricorn]

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@Haris Zuberi

But BB and NS signing a code of conduct and coining ethical procedures is like bandits composing laws. Composing laws and codes etc is great, but in this case we’d better “look who’s talking”…

Agreed. In the prevailing situation what do you think that who else should?

[antiobl]

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@Haris Zuberi

But BB and NS signing a code of conduct and coining ethical procedures is like bandits composing laws. Composing laws and codes etc is great, but in this case we'd better "look who's talking"...

Would be better if these two sign a "code of conduct" for their own parties as well. Talking about "will of the people" on national level, while keeping their own @rse firmly planted in party's "krusi" (chair) is kind of strange.

Even if this "national code of conduct is signed", there is a possibility that Mullahs or MQM may trump them.

On a positive note, this agreement should pave the way for stable 2 party based system in Pakistan.

Hoping for the best.

[Mr_Fraudia]

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@MiniMe

Yes Pir ji, actually I believe that, people got into power because we as Pakistanis voted for them, at least in the elections those were not rigged, the rest were all power grabs, thanks to the Army. As per giving a damn, no body gave a damn, the military or the elected politicians, but that doesn’t mean that we should forsake the very tradition of voting in free and fair elections.

Minime, obviously you have not seen how voting takes place in villages. majority of people vote based on the orders issued by the local hadd haraam, whether it is a qabaili sardaar, some chaudhry or some vadera.

I am all for starting and maintaining a tradition of “fair” elections where people can vote freely. However, such a tradition does not exist. in cities things are a little different, but villages, qasbas etc is a completely different situation. read up

[Captain1]

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@Haris Zuberi

But BB and NS signing a code of conduct and coining ethical procedures is like bandits composing laws. Composing laws and codes etc is great, but in this case we’d better “look who’s talking”…

I think they mainly penned who will get how much share off of each contract signed with foreign firms (i.e SGS Cotecna, Turkish firm for highways, Daewoo, Hub) or how much will they share from a “forgiven” loan for some fondry/sugar mill

[Captain1]

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@antiobl

On a positive note, this agreement should pave the way for stable 2 party based system in Pakistan.

Hoping for the best.

There is NO phreaking way these idiots will stay together after getting in bed for few months or until after their “united” govt is abolished by “the” president (which will be Mushy ).

[antiobl]

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@Captain1

There is NO phreaking way these idiots will stay together after getting in bed for few months ...

Right on! If history teaching anything about politikos in Pakistan, they will for sure ruin the system due to some petty squables.

However NS and BB are not making a poll alliance. They are agreeing on a code of conduct. I have my doubts about their sincerety. Still we ought to maintain some hope about politikos.

NS and BB are not the sharpest knives in our drawer.

[Zakk]

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The code is an excellent idea..if it broadens to include issues of provincial autonomy, SAFRON reform it would definitely help bring in smaller political parties and give the MQM a viable option if it ever decides to dump the Kings party.
it is unfortunate though that both leaders have not launched a reform of their parties election system and make it more democratic.

[antiobl]

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@Zakk

The code is an excellent idea..if it broadens to include issues of provincial autonomy, .....

Especially an autonomy for FATA. It should be made Khattak province.

@Zakk

.....it is unfortunate though that both leaders have not launched a reform of their parties election system and make it more democratic.

Sadly! That's true. Every party in Pakistan remains hard core dictatorial, one-man, setup.

p.s. MQM can't survive by itslef. The leader is in Queen's party, and the rest of the gang is King's.