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Watch the following video by Keith Oberman:
10 terror warning coincidences at important political crisis…
http://s1.upload.sc/request/1b6865026f9a10c6c9844efce53ae2de
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Other then ridiculous accusations, how about you post something of substance for a change? You’re someone who simply refuses to accept reality if it does not conform to your own ideas. Whet point is there for me to debate with you then?
Agent smith, I think it would be useless for me to provide you sources, since you and “mo” would just dismiss them as propoganda. “Mo” here isn’t even ready to believe that Pakistan gave nuclear secrets to north korea when musharraf himself admitted it! That is the height of denial.
But I’ll provide you a link anyway: http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html
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B*liar*...still on vaccation in the Carrebian...while his country is in crisis...relax on cooking... :D
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It was in mainstream news that those alleged terrorist didn’t have shampoo bombs, tickets or even passports to carry out any attacks anytime soon. It wasn’t some kind of well kept secret.
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Let me ask you a question. If you believe that Al-Qaeda is behind 9/11 attacks and since Osama is Al-Qaeda leader, how come he is not wanted by FBI for 9/11 attacks? I will advise you to do some research before you answer this question. That will save you from embarrassment.
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Well how about you once for a change try to comprehend the fact that western media is extremly biased… Now let me ask you this, have you ever heard Christian terrorist? have you ever heard hindu terrorist? have ever heard jew or yahoodi terrorist?
To be honest with your kind who blindly parrot their masters voice it is waste of resources and bandwidth to even challenge the western media, for your type your masters voice is voice of God…
Please provide Video recording of Musharraf or AQK admitting passing nuke tech to N. Korea.
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I said it all along that its all propoganda.
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It might be for legal reasons, since they might have more hard evidence for his involvement in the embassy bombings or maybe they just forgot to update their websites. One thing is for sure, it is a minor point among the whole body of evidence against al qaeda involvement in 9/11
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And the jihadi media you read is much more biased then any western media. They simply consider jews, hindus and christians less then humans. These new age jihadis themselves declare their actions in the name of Islam, which is obviously why they are called muslim terrorists or militants. Should they be called Buddhist terrorists/militants instead? I am looking at the hate mentality coming out of jihadi organizations and I have seen it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears, unlike you, who are probably sitting in America crying about media bias yet make no mention of the mullah bias against ordinary people like me. We, in Pakistan are tired of your mullah and arab masters telling us how to lead our lives. Go lecture the mullahs on bias, instead of worrying about western media.
And I have read Musharraf’s statements printed in Pakistani newspapers and he never denied that he said that. What would it matter if I showed you video, you would just say that the CIA made it like all the Osama videos where he admits his hand in 9/11. Come to Pakistan and I will show you what jihadi mentality really is all about and then you will start hating these cancerous elements in our society as much as I do. Until then you will remain in your world of conspiracy theories taken from internet websites run by kids.
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Jehadi media don’t go around lying about WMD and concocting stories nor Jehhadi media go around invade other countries killing innocent people.…..
And in what name do you think Israel was created and it was created with lot of peace and harmony before and after? Ya!!! Why do you think IRA was blowing McDonalds? And I am sure Lords Resistance Army was distributing flowers in Uganda…. And Low caste Dalits are skinned alive just for the heck of it.
Its your masters who have the most blood on their hands your blind hatred just mask the facts that you find extremely difficult to absorb due to thick skull or you just don’t want to accept the facts.
Denial is a psychological defense mechanism in which a person faced with a fact that is uncomfortable or painful to accept rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.
I have advise for you, put up or shut up, Just like you can dig out lot of BS about Mushy and AQ I can find far more about Iraqs WMD and lot more about your pay masters who openly lied… I am so confident because I saw the video speech of Mush and AQ and I know exactly what they said only your masters give it a spin to further their own interest.
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Forgot to update their website? hahahha….you are funny! Thanks for making my case.
So even if FBI is not sure due to lack of hard evidence who are you to say the Al-Qeada is behind it.
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ouch!! logic might hurt him…
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You obviously don’t know much about the publications of Jammat ud Dawa and company, do you? They instigate hatred against hindus, jews, christians, ahmedis, shias, barelvis etc. and that leads to jihadi minds going on killing frenzies from time to time. Keep up to date with news before you start debating.
You are right about denial and you are in denial about the violence of jihadis that has killed MORE muslims then the kafirs ever could get around to doing. Did you forget this little fact or are you just in the habit of burying your head in the sand? Jihadis and fellow Muslims have killed other Muslims in Pakistan (East and West), Afghanistan, Iraq, Darfur, Sudan, Somalia, Kashmir etc. and continue to do this every single day! Wake up and see the muslim and nonmuslim blood in the hands of your jihadist puppeteers. All you have to do is open up a newspaper and see the killings in Iraq and elsewhere. Do you not care about those Muslims?
It seems you care more about low caste dalits then your fellow Muslims. Where is your conscience?
I’ve already provided you with enough evidence, but it seems you just can’t seem to accept reality and continue to divert the issue and tell me “put up or shut up”. It just shows your childish mentality and inability to debate, nothing else. Musharraf admitted the north korea connection in his interview. I’ll take the word of an interview over your selective memory and denials on such matters.
You are a kid living in the west, getting your information from random websites and you have no idea about the jihadi cancer in Pakistan and elsewhere.
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It was an example, I’m not making any case for you. Osama was placed on that list before 9/11 and that information has never been updated since then. Why, only FBI knows for sure.
But, lets look at this logically. You’re saying that the evidence to connect OBL to 9/11 has been concocted and is fake, right?
If this is true, why could not the FBI come up with this “hard evidence” as well linking 9/11 to OBL? What would stop the masters behind the “deception” of the 9/11 attacks from doing such a simple task?
It makes no sense, accept that they want to make sure the legal case against OBL is strong in their courts and the embassy bombings show the strongest links obviously. So do you agree that he was behind the embassy bombings because of the FBI website? After all, if it’s on the FBI site, you believe it to be true, right? If the included the 9/11 attacks on his page, would you then start to believe he was behind 9/11 attacks? Or would there be some other excuse?
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Meanwhile, more links to jihadi groups are coming out.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060817/wl_uk_afp/britainusattacksairlinepakistansuspect_060817120103
British bomb suspect married into Pakistani militant’s family Thu Aug 17, 8:01 AM ET
BAHAWALPUR, Pakistan (AFP) - A British suspect in an alleged plot to blow up jets is related by marriage to the head of Pakistani militant outfit Jaish-e-Mohammed but had never been part of the group, relatives have said.
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Security officials said Thursday Rashid Rauf had instead used members of a separate splinter group blamed for a 2002 attack on an Islamabad church, called Jamaatul Furqan, to communicate with a top Al-Qaeda operative in Afghanistan about the plan.
**The brother of Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Masood Azhar said Rauf wedded one of his in-laws about three years ago and went by the false name Khalid in Bahawalpur, a city in central Punjab province.
“Rashid Rauf was married to the sister of the wife of my elder brother, Tahir,” Abdur Rauf – whose family name is the same as Rashid’s by coincidence – told AFP.
Rashid Rauf, 25, fled to Pakistan in 2002 after the killing of his uncle in Birmingham and is reportedly wanted by British police for questioning.**
“We categorically deny that he was a member of our party at any stage,” Abdur Rauf added. (haha, yeah right, I bet you would deny this now!)
“We do not know under what circumstances and when Rauf was arrested. His house was raided on August 12 by security officials and they took away some items from there. His wife and two children are still in that house, we believe.”
Intelligence officials said Rauf, named by Pakistan as a “key man” in the alleged airliner conspiracy, was arrested on a bus in the nearby town of Lodhran as he was travelling to the central city of Multan.
Jaish-e-Mohammed, or “Army of the Prophet Mohammed”, has been banned by key US ally President Pervez Musharraf.
It fights Indian rule in the divided Himalayan state of Kashmir and was a key player in a December 2001 assault on the Indian parliament that brought India and Pakistan to the brink of war.
Leader Masood Azhar was jailed in India during the 1990s but was traded after an Indian passenger jet was hijacked from Kathmandu and flown to Kandahar in Afghanistan, along with Omar Sheikh who was sentenced to death over the kidnap and killing of US reporter Daniel Pearl.
His current whereabouts are unknown. (what a joke, he gives speeches around the country at various deobandi masjids)
Azhar’s elderly father angrily denied an earlier report that he said Rashid Rauf had been a member of Jaish and left for a rival group that opposed the United States.
“I swear by God that I did not meet any journalist. I never said that Rashid Rauf was member of my son’s party. I have never seen or met Rashid, I do not know what he looked like,” his father told AFP, adding that he had not seen his son for four years.
An intelligence source said Rashid was believed to have had cooperation from members of Jamaatul Furqan, a breakaway group from Jaish-e-Mohammed, which was banned by Britain in October 2005.
It is led by Maulvi Abdul Jabbar, a former Afghan war veteran and Jaish commander, and has been blamed for an attack on an Islamabad church in 2002 which killed two Americans and wounded 45 others, including diplomats. (a malvi attacking a church, can’t expect any better from their types)
“The (Jamaatul Furqan) network was used apparently to communicate with Al-Qaeda contact based in southern Afghanistan,” the source told AFP.
**Rashid Rauf’s brother-in-law Sohaib Ahmed said Rauf had apparently been living a double life.
“He was doing a cosmetic business and often travelled outside Bahawalpur mainly to Rawalpindi and Karachi,” Ahmed said.
"He would stay home few days every month and then go out for his business. We did not know that he was a British national, we knew him as Mohammad Khalid who settled to our area from Mirpur, Kashmir. **
“He was married to my sister three years ago, they have two children. I have read in the papers that his name was Rashid and he was wanted in any case. He did not have any links to any organisation.”
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haha I don’t know much, look who is talking.. there is a hell a lot of difference of instigating hatred and making good on it.. For a start would you like to see the list of Jewish or Christian or Hindu terrorist organization and the killings they have done? Oh yeah but you only parrot your master voice so never mind it won’t make much difference…
Wow! We have someone talking of conscious,!!! Having problems comprehending or comprehending the facts is a challenge for you? Burying your head in the sand isn’t gona change the ground realities, would you like to know the killings done by your masters starting WW1 all the way to the last minute? Would you like to count in millions or hundreds of millions?
All the other cultures/religions put together do not have as much blood on their hands as much as your masters whose voice you parrot.. The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction of denial, you will make an excellent candidate for research.
Evidence, LOL… you mean the evidence that your masters spew out in the media.LOL… If that was evidence then the universe is guilty and I was wondering why the universe was shaking…LMAO… Your type are blinded by hatred who refuse to admit ground realities. You could not provide Video of Mush/AQK but you keep on harping on what the west spews out. And in the end you completely duck the question about Christian, Hindu, Jewish terrorism that isn’t reported in teh media for obvious reasons and you beat the same old drum over and over, nice try…..
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The reason it is not updated is because they don’t have any hard evidence against him for 9/11. How hard is it to comprehend?
Why you keep repeating yourself. You are getting more ridiculous by every post. I asked you a simple question. Let me rephrase it. If the United States Government itself doesn’t have conclusive evidence to blame 9/11 attacks on Osama then who are you to say that he is behind it? Are you some authority above US government?
I have started to feel like that I am talking to some retard.
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AS, I see your point and its crystal clear especially the last line and I mean it.. But for some people any thing that is printed in western media is word of God I find that amazing… Even people like George Bush and his cronies are caught lieing but thanks to technology the host plays the recording on a large screen and nail the SOBs. But for people where shame and dignity are alien concepts it is nothing out of the ordinary and the world goes round and round.
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^^ I agree these kind of people think that they part of the system by supporting and agreeing on everything comes from these neo-cons western masters. They are severely misguided.
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Mo, you are just talking in circles and basically repeating everything I say so there is no use debating anything with you. You still even refuse to acknowledge Musharraf’s own words, so how can I convince you of anything else? Until you can come back and be man enough to acknowledge when you are wrong instead of resorting to infantile personal attacks against me, you will remain the joke of this forum.
Meanwhile, your jihadi buddies are geting picked up one by one in Pakistan and elsewhere. Try to read Dawn or Jang once in a while.
Agent Smith, I've already said that the FBI likely does not have hard evidence to link OBL directly to 9/11. Why do you all of a sudden put so much trust in the US govnt and its agencies? I'm going by the statements of Osama himself which is enough proof for me that he played a role in 9/11 attacks. I know the jihadi mindset and 9/11 type attacks would be a great "victory" for them, shich is why they were all so happy after the attacks.
But, do you agree that he was behind the embassy bombings in Africa? If it's on the FBI's website, it must be true right?