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Do you forgive people? If no, why ?

What is Islamic ruling on forgiving people?
@Tahurra @P_G @lethal_kamikaze

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Peace Mahool bhai, will you elaborate your question plz. Forgiving people in what sense you are asking about?

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I am asking fazeelat and fawwaid of forgiving.

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**First we have to know what forgiveness is. How do we know what forgiveness is?
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Is it forgetting what someone has done? Or is not reacting at all to what someone has done? or is it chastising someone with or without keeping a grudge? Or is it reacting in an opposition of displeasing but instead charitable manner in return to a displeasing act? or is it all of the above?

In my understanding, Muslims begin in the Name of Most Merciful and Oft-Forgiving - a God who prefers mercy and forgiveness over justice and wrath. We reflect on the lives of all our Prophets (peace be upon them all), and can get a glimpse of what it means for a human being to be forgiving.

When the new Muslims of Yathrib/Medina returned to Makkah and peacefully conquered it, the Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) entered the city with his head low in humility. They all marched in peace and treated Abu sufyan’s family gently, and did not harass them or threaten them, instead offered protection to the families of Makkah including the household of Abu Sufyan. Obviously, most Muslims were angry and hateful of this enemy of Islam and weren’t smiling at his sight either. But they collectively acted in forgiveness not retribution. Abu Sufya can be likened to the worst enemies of Islam before his conversion. He was the man to abuse and support the abuse of Muslims and the Prophet (pbuh) in flesh, not in caricatures, or editorials. He was the political elitist, and business tycoon of the time. The early Muslims did not face persecution from the Byzantines, or the Persians, or the Romans, they faced harshest and severest persecution from the Makkan leaders such as Abu Lahab and Abu Sufyan. That kind of man was peacefully forgiven.

So the life of our Prophets must be studied…even if it is in an anecdotal way and not an academic way in order understand what is forgiveness. From personal experience, I am unable to forgive and satisfy my ego at the same time. Forgiveness requires disenfranchisement from the *khudi. *It is a selfless act of charity.

What I still don’t understand is how do I know if I have forgiven someone? What if a few years later, I utter something in reference to the old incident to justify my words? Had I really forgiven ?

Forgiveness is not required. God and his Prophet have prescribed punishments and methods of punishments. So whoever is able to forgive can chose to forgive, otherwise the punishment or chastisement can be set forth as long as its proportionate, wise, and does not violate the Islamic moral and ethical framework.

The clearest FAZEELAT and FAwaid as I understand of Forgiveness is preserving the essence of unity. Ones and Unity is a theme of God’s essence and the Muslim umma. Forgiveness is a quality of God, so it draws one nearer to Him, and it draws people nearer to each other instead of drawing up demarcating lines between hearts. This automatically has countless positive effects on social and psychological welfare of the community.

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Peace Mahool,

We have example from the life of our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: that on many many occasions, He :saw2: forgiven his enemies as well others. It is a very long subject (in my view) and hard to describe in short. However I’ll try to share my views in short.

As we aware that the angels ask forgiveness from Almighty Allah for us till we are sitting in our Musallah. Also when we say “Ameen” in prayers, and our “Ameen” coincides with the “Ameen” of Angels then our all past sins will be forgiven. It is also narrated in a hadith Book ‘The Book of Faith (Kitab Al-Iman)’ of Sahih Muslim Hadith No. 0221:

It is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Abbas that some persons amongst the polytheist had committed a large number of murders and had excessively indulged in fornication. Then they came to Muhammad :saw2: and said: Whatever you assert and whatever you call to is indeed good. But if you inform us that there is atonement of our past deeds (then we would embrace Islam). Then it was revealed: And those who call not unto another god along with Allah and slay not any soul which Allah has forbidden except in the cause of justice, nor commit fornication; and he who does this shall meet the requital of sin. Multiplied for him shall be the torment on the Day of Resurrection, and he shall therein abide disgraced, except him who repents a believes and does good deeds. Then these! for the Allah shall change their vices into virtues. Verily Allah is Ever Forgiving, Merciful (Surah Al Furqan Chapter 25 Verses 68-70). Say thou: O my bondsmen woo have committed extravagance against themselves despair not of the Mercy of Allah I Verily Allah will forgive the sins altogether. He is indeed the Forgiving, the Merciful (Sura Az Zumur Chapter 39 Verse 53).

If we read above hadith and try to understand it and then we’ll came to know that Almighty Allah is most Merciful upon us. HE is trying to create so much opportunities for us that if we avails it, we’ll be forgiven. So I think Almighty Allah likes us all and want to forgive us. If we start liking each others (as narrated in hadith that A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim) then yes we can forgive each others on mistakes and surely there would be some rewards on our deed.

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I don’t have an Islamic reference, but forgiveness is the act of letting go. For instance, if someone is caught stealing my cell-phone, and later I decide to forgive him of this act I would not try and get justice or prosecute that guy. I would simply say its ok I dont want to press charges or defame him. But at the same time I will most probably still hold a grudge against him. I would be weary of my belongings around him. And that is human nature, and probably nothing wrong with that.

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Who spend [in the cause of Allah] during ease and hardship and who restrain anger and who pardon the people - and Allah loves the doers of good; **(134) surah Al I Imran
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Do not have ill-will towards one another, do not be envious of one another, do not turn your back on one another; O, servants of Allah, be brothers (and sisters). It is not permissible for a Muslim to remain angry with their brother [in religion] for more than three days. (Bukhari)

And whoever is patient and forgives - indeed, that is of the matters [requiring] determination. (43) ****surah as shuraO you who have believed, indeed, among your wives and your children are enemies to you, so beware of them. But if you pardon and overlook and forgive - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (14) surah at taghabun
Take what is given freely, enjoin what is good, and turn away from the ignorant. (199) surah Al A’raf

And let not those of virtue among you and wealth swear not to give [aid] to their relatives and the needy and the emigrants for the cause of Allah, **and let them pardon and overlook. Would you not like that Allah should forgive you? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. **(22)surah an nur (The ayat revealed for Hazrat abu bakr and for us obviously as well)

these all are the verses and many others, the perfect example of forgiveness by Prophet sallal laho alahe wassalam at the time of victory of makkah,
so as we want Allah to forgive us after so many sins, so we should be humble and forgive others. Though it becomes difficult sometimes, but becomes easy if it is only for the sake of ALLAH alone!!
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anything wrong using same emoticon

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Peace Tahurra,

I’ll let you figure out if there is anything wrong or none. Till that I’ll keep my impression on you by using this smili → :hmmm:

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ik dua hay

Allahumma in’ne aaouzubika min’azzil’lati wal qil’latti wal faqree wa ann Azlimma Aow Uzlim’ma

is main wa ann Azlima Awo Uzlimma ka terjuma hay ka Allah humain bachaana is baat say k hum Zulm karain ya hum per zulm kiaa jayee

or ik hadees main hai

muslman ik soorakh say do daffa nahi dassa jaata

mukhtasar baat yeh k Muaaf kerna behtreen ikhlaaq ka hissa hay k Allah khud muaaf kernay ko pasand kertay hain to yeh siffat-e-ilaahiya hoyee

lakin** HER **jagah muaafe nahi hotee..kkuch maqaasid bohat azeem o shaan hotay hain un ko nusqsaan pohnchanay waloon k ley koi muaafe nahi

baqee sirf apay rishtay daaroon ki jahan tak bat hay to uss main silla rehmi ka hukam hay woh tum say taluq torain bhi to tum un say taluq jooro

lakin yahan bhi ulma-e-karam fermatay hain is ka maqsad yeh nahi k un k derwazayy per ja ker baith jaao bulkay yeh app ka behaviour aysa ho k jub un ko zarroorat ho to unhain yaqeen ho k app un ki madad kerain gay

dost ahbab yani social circle is main condition hay k ik admi k baray main app jan chuko k is ki adat hee hay dhoka daynay ki to app us say apna muamla alag ker lo ..or agar app samjhtay ho k anjaanay main dosray say ghalte hoyee hay to muaaf ker do or taluqaat bahal rakhain

mera apna Ammal is main kaisa hai ager app yeh poochna chahtay hain

to main muaaf ker daytee hoon bohat jaldee ..lakin bhoolnay main baaz oqaat bohat waqt lagta hai …agercha main koi reaction nahi daytee lakin ik distance maintain ker laytee hoon…bajaye munafiqat ikhtyaar kernay k dil main ghussa ho ,peeth peechay gheebat ho or moun per muskarhat ho…kion k main abhi bohat kamzor hoon…

lakin Kamleen aysay bhi hain jo muaaf bhi kertay hain or do gunna berh ker Ahsan bhi kertay hain !

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app kay sath agar kisi ney ziadati ki ho tu maaf kardeinay kay baad kiya ahsan hay jo app kar sakty hain us bandy per? Sab se bara ahsan kiya hosakta hy?

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yeh us rishtay per depend kertay hai jo app ka us kay sath ho

mujhay Imam abu hanifa Rehmatullah ka waqiya iis per yaad Aa raha hay k un ka parosee ik kafir admi tha or saare raat saaz or sharaab ki mehfil jamata tha ,Imam abu hanifa rehmatullah k ley kaafe taqleef deh rehta tha woh waqt …ik din us kay ghar say koi awaaz na ayee …maloom kernay per pata chala k hawaldaar us ko pakar ker lay gayee k woh kion imam abu hanifa ko tang kerta hai

to Imam abu hanifa rehmatullah us ko khud churaanay gayee k is ko azaad ker do..or woh parosee App k is ammal per MUSLMAN ho gaya

mainy apnay aasatiza say yeh ammal bhi sunna hay jub koi tum say zyaadte karay to us k ley do Naffil perh ker us ka sawab us ko baksh do… or yeh bara he mushkil ammal ho ga ..lakin jub tum ker lo gay to apnay DIL ko bohat halka paao gay !

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Ji kisi ney app per ziadati ki ho tu sab se mushkil uskay liye dua karna lagta hay, tu agar app uski bakhshish hidayat or mein kheti hoon uskay liye jannat ul firdous mein janay ki dua kardeni chahye, kyun kay zarori nahi app ko moka mil jaye us per koi or ahsan karny ka tu dua behtreen hay, or kiya maloom app ney kisi kay sath kaisi ziadati ki ho or jab app per kisi ney ziadati ki ho tu jab app dua karty hain dosrey kay liye aesy tu farishty kehty hain same to you and ameen, tu yun yeh mamla dil ko sukoon deta hay.

Allah hamari maghfarat bakhshish kary agar kisi per rai kay danay kay barabar bhi zulm kardiya hay, sab se ziada khof isi chez ata hay mujhe. Allah apni panah mein rakhy Ameen na app kisi ki wajha se jawab deh hoon qayamat waly din na koi apki wajha se jawab deh ho, mamla dunya he clear hojaye.

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One of my favorite lecture..which i listen to again and again to remind myself is by Sheikh Majid Mehmood about forgiveness. And Amaaazing! lecture..that you would want to listen again and again.

SO..do i forgive people. Yes i think i do..many folks around me do think that…it is quiet weak of me. But i say to them is this..may be..may be..i have said something mean to other ppl..or done something…which is by far..amounts to greater sin or caused greater hurt to someone..i expect them to forgive me as well.

With that said above…i also believe..and depending on situation..there are some situations in life where forgiveness is just not possible. For them i say…forgiveness comes closely with time. For example..if i said something to someone..which caused them to be hurt…i would make an effort on my part to repair the damage..and in the end..expect them to forgive.

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Share the video plz

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With pleasure LP!

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Because Allah has asked me to coz its better way

beside, how can I expect Allah to forgive me when I dont forgive his creation?

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