Re: Foreign students ordered out of Pakistan madrassas
They are bunch of arrogant posers like I said… Nothing is more annoying to me then have Indians giving us advice on how we should deal with terrorism.
Its a classic case of the blind trying to lead the blind…
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Come on my foot.
In actual reality there are probably more madressas and more graduates coming from India as compared to Pakistan !! We don’t see them kicking students out !!!
There IS proper education in the majority of Pakistani masressas. Beating children is an issue I have, however not all of them sit around and abuse kids when the kids dont know their lessons.
These people go to madressas for a religious education. They don’t go there to learn how to make bombs. It’s their right to get a religious education, Pakistan is supposed to have Muslims as the majority. It’s simply ridiculous to cast suspicion on innocent people who go there for an education.
To kick foreign students out is so imply that students go to madressas to become terrorists. That is obviously NOT the case. Most of these students come out as religious teachers themselves . And these same people go back to their countries and teach other Muslims who might be ignorant and not know a thing about Islam.
If Musharraf wants to ensure that madressas aren’t misleading young people, he should change what is taught in there or how it is taught . Kicking a few students while hundreds of others remain, does not help. In order to make sure that students get an Islamic education, he needs to make sure the correct rules are being applied to the madressas and he needs to make sure he shuts down only the ones which might be teaching students the wrong lessons so to speak!
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Muslim Queen its about politics.. Musharaf of all people cant impose his govts curriculm in these Madrasahs, the religous people would be up in arms. The approach in dealing with this is very tactical. One step at a time. Dealing with such a problem in one fell swoop, will only make it that much harder to reslove..
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Well get a ticket straight from Lutan to Patna. Please don’t stop in Tobah Take-Singh. We have had enough with Tali-bobs and other mad-house-russahs.
We accept our limitations that we can not “properly” educate these mad-house-russahs. So please take them whereever you like, India, China, Saudi, or heck even UK.
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Sadly for you, this is wishful thinking. Just read the editorials of your own newspapers as well as ones in the UK, UK, Thailand etc. in the last few days. In the US last week a plane was diverted merely because a couple of Pakistanis changed seats. Do you want me to post the news? Why are Pakistanis being rounded up in many European countries and even your brother Islamic nation Egypt? Malaysia, another “brother” is now reneging on a deal to employ Pakistanis. Why?
Kya kar loge? Take LoC or go pound sand. One more conflagaration and Pakistan can kiss goodbye to F-16s, aid and the rest. Musharraf was angry at India all last week but one call from Bush and he calls Manmohan to calm things down. What does that tell you? Pakistan under Musharraf is one step from the doghouse. More wrong moves and in you go.
Using Jihad has gone way below the breakeven point for Pakistan. If you keep persisting with it the current LoC deal too will be off the table.
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Every country has fanatics but yours are not satisfied with Pakistani blood and go and kill abroad. What more they bring in foreigners and train them to kill. When you export terrorists the world takes notice.
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Poor burned up Indian's have been making the same hatefilled predictions about Pakistan's doom for the last 6 years, and not one of them has come to fruition. By the grace of the Almighty we have survived one difficulty after another, and come out stronger than ever. :)
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..Correction..** By the grace of UNCLE SAM we have survived one difficulty after another…**. 
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Yeap the same uncle Sam who tells Baha-Rat-is to back off from the borders and they say “Yes Uncle”. The same uncle Sam who offers a green card to Qazi Husain’s nephew and Mullah says “Yes Uncle”. So which of Uncle Sam’s blessings you would deny?
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Pakistanis have been having a hard time since 9/11.. So have Indians for that matter. Indians have been stopped at airports aswell my idiotic friend, in fact they have also been physically attacked. A sikh was attacked while trying to get a cofee and Dunkin D’s. I recall a group of Indian performers were taken of a flight once way back.. So who are you trying to fool with your baseless reatrded arguments? Open your eyes my Indian friend!
As for the other countries, they are the same, afraid… Whether it be Pakistani or otherwise.. By the way, apparently the UK is also intrested in questioning an Indian Muslim in connection with the bombings. Also, an Indian Al qaeda was also triad in India recently and I posted on that. So again, you full of the same thing you whole country is filled with… Sh1t:heh: <—look I can make a smilie:hehe:
As for Kashmir, question is thum kya karoge.. we can simply continue to kill your soldiers (terrorists), attack your people and your informants and your sumpathizers and you will do nothing about it, because you are nothing more then a bunch of pathetic losers and cowards. You can keep your LOC we dont need your deal or you, we are happy to continue the proxy war at all cost..
And if you have a problem with it, well then you can kiss my brown arse..
Have nice day… I really wish we could curse on this site!
Either slve the problem, or shut up and accept it..
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Hacha?
What Pakistani from Pakistan has ever left the country to cause trouble? I admit there was one, but he was captured by Pakistani authorities and was executed in the US… Kashmir is part of our territory thats illegally occupied by India so that doesnt count.
Indian fanatics work double time and they work in large groups… Pakistani fanatics work individually within a large network at most. Indian fantics are the comman joe on the street, the Indian fantic is any gathering of a large group of Indians together. Indian forming a large group are the most brutal and evil form of fanatic. They burn people alive, they will rape, torture and mutilate all in the open. I heard once, that during the riots, Indian fanatics ripped open the belly of a preganant woman while she was alive, ripped out her fetus and burned it in front of her, and then set her on fire… You people are sick! That missionary too, was killed in the same manner, alive and with his two sons in a car!
Atleast we dont kill our own the same as you do.. When was the last time you heard of a mob in Pakistan killing 2000 innocent people? Get a life!
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PP1,
Keep living in your delusional land miyan. Indians may face racial attacks, nothing new there. But your brethren, thanks to the lunatic policyies you support, are not getting visas from many countries. This is not the case for Indians. Just look at the statistics for US and European nations’ visas. If you think any other nation has been profiled more than Pakistan, you need to get off the strong stuff..
We have no real problems with your jihadis since we have been taking them on for 15 years and have only grown powerful since then. I remember the days when many in the US and UK would believe that Pakistan had a valid claim on Kashmir. Today, eveyone says that Kashmir jihad and Al Qaeda are our “common enemies.” Another 15 years of the same will be more destructive for Pakistan and mere pinpricks for us. If a big attack occurs, not a single nation will be on Pakistan’s side for your denials on jihadi camps will not work anymore.
At your home front - Without free travel, your Businessmen will lose their marketshare to other nations. I was at the World Economic Forum in Davos last year and the only Pakistani business that attracted attention was security guard agencies. The Gun/Grenade/jihad culture is hurting you more than you’d like to believe. Whatever you call us, the fact remains that 58 years of flailing about has only lost you land and moved you farther and farther from the dream.
Anyway, here is another one for you. Even Muslim African nations are running scared of your brethren now.
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lol so true
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Afghanistan - Some 40,000 jihadis and counting
UK - Need I say more
There are many more Pakistani terrorists caught in many more countries - Chechnya, Bosnia, Iraq, Jordan, Kenya, etc. but you get the picture…
Do you even read the news nowadays man?
I guess the murder of a million East Pakistanis in 1971 does not count 
Cognitive dissonance?
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Yeah, Pakistanis have a had a hard time, infact, when you come to America from Pakistan you are stopped no by homeland security... But you pointed out that people of Pakistani origin were kicked of a flight... They werent kicked of because they were Pakistani, they were kicked of because they were brown... I simply made the point that discrimination on the ground is not based on their country of origin, who knew on that flight for example that they were Pakistani? And I dont support any policy, its your blind rage and narrow minded thinking typical of your Indian psyche that prevents you from seeing outside the box.
I only support Jihadist war against India because India is an arrogant nation which is illegaly occupying and oppressing millions and deserves it. Nothing wrong with that...
As for my brethren, I dont know what sort of bretheren you are talking about but I only see them as countrymen, not as fellow muslims.. So I hope your not implying that they are my religous brethren.
And plus, why would American have a problem with non Muslim Hindus? Majority of Indians who get Vesas are Hindu or Sikh or otherwise... Granted Indian Muslims arent discriminated against as Pakistanis, but its only because they come from a non Muslim state. All Muslim states on the other hand have the same difficulties.
And I could care less how well you deal with Jihadists.. My hope is to continue to kill your soldiers and attack your country if India doesnt want to resolve the Kashmir issue. Im more then willing to destroy the Jihadist infrastructre if India even gave a hint of wanting to resove the issue. But with people like you around, dont expect any friends on our side..
And thank you very much, but Pakistans economy is doin just fine. We actually grew at the highest last quarter in the history of the country and investment has been moving up slow but surely, particularly from the middle east. Even Indians have expressed intrest in investment here, as was evident when Indian investors had the meeting with Shaukat Aziz. Also, the pipeline seems to be going ahead, and this despite the fact that the Kashmir problem still festers. I believe 9 of your soldiers were killed recently?
So what else do you have to say?
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Lets go through these one by one.. The first in Australia, I never heard of, and still he is only suspected of havinf links with a french terrorist. This doesnt mean he comited any terrorists acts…
The Rama guy in France was not guilty of being an accesory to Richard reid.. He is only accused of being a member of Lashkar, which I support as long as they are only attacking India which I dont consider terrorism..
The Kid from UK maybe of Pakistani origin, but he is a product of British society, not Pakistani proper. Problem lies in the inability of British Pakistanis to assimilate.
The rest are the same, suspects, etc, not guilty of actually commiting any terrorist act.
In Afghanistan there were Pakistanis who had joined the Taliban, but thats not terrorism.
As for Chechnya, Bosnai, Iraq, Jordan or Kenya.. Im not sure who you are refering to there. I know the in Bosnia they murdered 10 Pakistanis who they later admited were innocent, to impress the US at the start of the War..
I read the news everyday, and probbaly a lot more then you… Just think your full of it..
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If Bangladesh counts then so does Kashmir and the 4000 or so people killed by Indian mobs in the PAST TEN YEARS!
Plus Baladesh is mosty Indian propaganda…
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Listen, Kashmir has been "festering" for 15 years. I recall the days in 1991-95 when entire towns and parts of Srinagar, Anantnag, Kupwara and Baramullah were run by jihadis. Today all the jihadis can do is lob grenades into crowds or try a car bomb here and there. WE have borne it since then and can bear it for the next 100 years. But the fact remains that we will not give 1 inch of territory or sovereignty ever. That's our bottomline.
From your side, every time you try to escalate jihad, the orders come from the White House to cool it, like we saw last week. Uncleji is watching your jihadi camps and all Western nations are cracking down on money transfers even remotely connected to jihad. The UN Security Council on Friday passed a draft resolution that will soon ban ANY person or entity even tangentially connected to jihadi groups of any kind. So your Al Dawa, Al Kawa type "charities" will have to close shop soon. Last year LeT and JeM raised 4 million dollars from the UK alone. What will they do without the money? Eat halwa/poori and blow gas? :D
Pakistan's jihadi card is getting weaker and weaker. It is like a flame thrower that is running out of fuel. It burns your side more than the others and at the end it will only burn you. You can say what you think but the Pakistanis convicted in Australia, France etc. are considered by those nations to be terrorists. Their opinion counts a bit more than yours :D
If Musharraf is smart, he'll see what's right and wind up the jihadi store when he still can. Because if another terror attack like 7/7 were to happen and there is even a sliver of Pak jihadi connection -> The hammer will be 100 times harder than today.
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BTW, if I were you, I'll not publicly say the line "If they kill Indians it is not terrorism." In the US, it is illegal to support attacks against civilians of a friendly nation. That Aatique guy in Pennsylvania is serving time because of the same reason.
Terrorism in terrorism, no matter what you say.
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Rather Musharraf should gather his SSG buddies and execute the mullahs, but Pakistan has become such a clusterfcuk that it would be impossible to do, since conservative Islam is too prevalent in all parts of society. It's only a matter of time before Musharraf will be overthrown by the next so-called savior of Pakistan.