Forced Conversions to Islam (in Kerala)

[Sadiyah]

Re: Forced Conversions to Islam (in Kerala)

@NameInUse

I have not mastered Islam, nor do I claim to have mastered it. I only know what I see and what I hear from Muslims. From what I see and what I hear, and what Muslims tell me, what I have said if seems to be correct. Now, to your point about non-Muslims living peacefully while under Muslims rule. I suppose one could claim that Palestinians can also live "peacefully and comfortably". But more to the point, what the Caliph claimed to be "protection money" is commonly called extortion, paid to be treated as a second classs citizen no less. At the same time, Akbar was "excommunicated", so to speak, from Islam because he was too accomodating of the kaffirs. I'm not really sure where you get this idea of peaceful living from. While we are at it, why aren't Muslims willing to live under the kaffir?

It is not incumbent upon non-Muslims to come into the fold of Islam. Yes, the non-Muslims were made to pay jizyah and in return their lives and property were protected. Such is the Islamic law. I don't see how it makes Islam an unpeaceful religion by any means.

Sure Palestinians could live comfortably and peacefully, but the way they are treated by their next door neighbours wouldn't vouch for it. To the best of my knowledge, Palestinians have been living in that area for a very long time and it was mainly after WWII that the outsiders were placed in the region and Palestinians were stripped off their property. Also keep in mind that none of us propagate the violence that takes place in Palestine.

Given that Islam has laws and regulations, Muslims in general would prefer to live under the rule of a Muslim government. It makes it easier for Muslims to practice their faith properly.

Also, how willing are you to have rulers of other faiths rule your land and your people? Would that be acceptable to you folks? Would you willingly and open-heartedly accept it? You make it sound as if Muslims nowadays are detesting the countries they're living under. If it's about Muslims wanting to have Islamic law (i.e. family law and the like) in non-Islamic countries, then other faiths have also been granted such rights; however, Muslims have been held back. Heck, even under the Islamic rule, non-Muslims are free to refer to their own religious courts, so long as they don't violate any major Islamic laws.

As for the mughal rulers, I'm not too knowledgeable about them. From what I can remember they became corrupt shortly after. I don't know if they were initially the proper Muslim rulers to begin with.

It'd be much appreciated if you folks could refrain from bashing Islam. Some of you have really made a point to come here and do nothing, but talk trash about Islam, while completely being oblivious of what your own folks may be doing or what your faith may be preaching.

The way many of you speak of Islam is as if you're all scholars and experts and know Islam inside out.