For MUSLIMS only!

In the Name Of Allah , Most Merciful and Beneficial

Assalam-U-Aliakum:

Most of the muslims here on gup-shup doesn’t

have concrete knowledge of Quran and Sunnah

,and what it stands for. Kuffars like NYA,
queer, ZZ and others are here to create
mischief ambiguity ,confusion and nothing
else.

One must understand Quran fully in order to

have conclusive understanding of Mushrikeens
and how they should be dealt with. My dear brother BB has qouted them:

**Abu Jahal and Abu Lahab of today, and he

is dead right. I am going to put forward

some of the Ayyahs from the Noble Quran to

have the better understanding of their

behaviour:

  • Surah Anfal*

If ye who believe ! If ye fear Allah, He will grant you a Criterion (To judge between right and wrong) Remove (all) evil (that may afflict) you, and forgive you:
For Allah is the lord of grace unbounded 8:29

This ayyah is in conjunction with Battle of

Badar and is known as battle of Furkan

since it was the first test of Muslims, the

battle between good and evil . ** Evil was

defeated** , and those who had real faith

were tested and sorted out from those who had

not faith enough to follow the banner of
Faith

Remmember how the Unbelivers Plotted against thee, to keep Thee bond , or slay thee , Or get thee out(of thy home). They plot and plan , And Allah Plans too, But the Best of Planners Is Allah.8:30

The plot against Mustafa(pbuh) in Makkah

aimed at three things . They were not only

foiled , but Allah wonderful woring turned

the tables, and brought good out of evil in
each case(1) They tried to hold the Prophet
in subjection in Makkah by putting pressure
on his uncles, relatives, and friends. But
the more they presecuted , the more

muslim community grew in Faith and numbers.

(2) They tried to injure or slay him. But the

wonderful example of his humility,

preservence , and fearlessness furthers the

cause of Islam( 3) They tried to get him and

his followers out of their homes. But they

found a new home in Madinah, from which they

eventually conquered not only Makkah but

Arabia and the world. Allah go on to say:

** When our Signs are rehersed To them , they say: " We Have heard this( before): If
we wished , we could Say (words) like these:
These are nothing But tales of ancient."[8:31]

Say to the Unbelivers If(now) they desist ( from Unbelief), Their past would be forgiven them; But if they persist , the punishment Of those before them is already( A matter of warning for them) [8:38]

And fight them on Until there is no more Tulmut or oppression And there prevails Justice and Faith in Allah Altogether and everywhere; But if they cease , verily Allah doth see all they do. [8:39]**

It is only when matters are brought to an

issue that evil is seperated distinctly from the good. Then evil
consorts with evil, and good with good. The
evil will be piled into a heap. When the cup
is full, the punishment will come. There
will be no mistake about it
. The good
should not be discouraged, because in
fighting against them, all forces of evil
join together and pool their resources
together, Quite evident on this forum.
The more they doso , the easier is the final
abitrament. It is all in Allah’s Plan.

Banning us Muslims from this forum will

neither cause harm nor let-down to Allah’s

cause.** We’ll fight you till the
very end**.

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Outlaw:

May Alaah (SWT) bless your brother for all your work. Very well said. I concur with you, maSha-Allah.


Irrefragable
Islaam Is The *ONLY Solution! *****And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers]. Noble Quran 3:85*

** TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN!**

When BB and I came on to GupShup forum our objective was well defined by the references below:

Noble Quran 16:125! Invite (mankind, O Muhammad SAW) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islâm) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Qur'ân) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.

Noble Quran 2:125! "And spend of your wealth in the cause of Allah, and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; but do good; for Allah loves those who do good."

Hadeeth:
"Among acts and good deeds for which a believer is rewarded after death, a piece of knowledge he has taught and diffused, a virtuous son he has brought up, an inherited book of Quran he has left, a mosque or a wayfarer's house he has constructed, a river he has caused to stream or alms he has handed out of his riches while still healthy and alive, so that he benefits there from in afterlife"
Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

What we were against and subject to name calling, making mockery of our posts and prejudicial judgement, not to mention insults.

Well, a believer is not an ignorant person. He/she knows his/her limits. After being provoked we learned that we must take action. An action, which is duly, justified according to Noble Quran. So our reaction was and has been exactly in the light of:

Noble Quran 16:126! ** And if you punish (your enemy, O you believers in the Oneness of Allâh), then punish them with the like of that with which you were afflicted.** But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for As-Sâbirin (the patient ones, etc.)].

** ISLAM PERMITS A BELIEVER TO RETALIATE. BELOW ARE THE REFERENCES FROM NOBLE QURAN: **
Noble Quran 42:39-40-41-42! And those who, when an oppressive wrong is done to them, they take revenge. 40. The recompense for an evil is an evil like thereof, but whoever forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allâh. Verily, He likes not the Zâlimûn (oppressors, polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.).41. And indeed whosoever takes revenge after he has suffered wrong, for such there is no way (of blame) against them.42. The way (of blame) is only against those who oppress men and wrongly rebel in the earth, for such there will be a painful torment.

Now let us take a look to the verse after this:
Noble Quran 42:43! And verily, whosoever shows patience and forgives that would truly be from the things recommended by Allâh.

WE CAN SEE CLEARLY THAT A BELIEVER IS NOT COMMANDED TO FOLLOW VERSE 42:43, IT IS AN OPTION. THE KEY VERSES ARE 42:40-41-42.

Now I challenge to all so-called ignorant Muslims to prove us wrong despite what all of us or any of us said. We are in total compliance of Islamic Sharia. We understand it better than you and we practice it better than you do. You all provoked us. If we have to do it again, we will do the same. We don’t ask for mercy and we don’t give one.

X Factor:

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand. You with your cartel are nothing but another supplier of cheap talk. The questions you asked to Ghazi do not define the situation. You were in general area of Islaam. If you have understanding of Quran you will know better. That is why there is NO clergy in Islaam and there is no evangelism in Islaam. A believer is required to have knowledge of Quran and he/she is required to practice it. In case you don’t know according to Islaam a Muslim is not required to follow all or any of the four school of thoughts in Islamic Jurisprudence. Your profound ignorance to Islaam is amazing to me. I have an open challenge debate with us. The plain fact is that we have simply out smarted you all. You all feel intimidated and feel that you are no more in spotlight. Well, this is your inner insecurity. You know why? BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT.


Irrefragable
Islaam Is The *ONLY Solution! *****And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers]. Noble Quran 3:85*

[This message has been edited by Irrefragable (edited April 07, 2000).]

Which Quran are you quoting from? Caliph Usman's or Prophet Mohammed!

Refer to the thread:FOR FACEUP, RE: THE GLORIOUS QURAN!

Why did it take 23 yrs for God to deliver the simple message of Islam? Was God busy?

Why did Usman destroy the original codices?

When do you guys go back to Pakistan or preferably Saudi? Because we don't want you here!

[quote]
Originally posted by faceup:
**Which Quran are you quoting from? Caliph Usman's or Prophet Mohammed!

Refer to the thread:FOR FACEUP, RE: THE GLORIOUS QURAN!

Why did it take 23 yrs for God to deliver the simple message of Islam? Was God busy?

Why did Usman destroy the original codices?

When do you guys go back to Pakistan or preferably Saudi? Because we don't want you here!**
[/quote]

faceup:

Gaga, caca.


Bubble Buster
"You mess with the BEST
You LOSE like the REST!"

[This message has been edited by Bubble Buster (edited April 07, 2000).]

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW?

According to faceup, he/she is Muslim. Nature of his/her questions, you have to ignore him/her. Now he/she don't want us here. But it is not clear what he/she means by "here?"

Hey human waste faceup:

What you mean by here? Whatever you mean by here...I have one message, whether you want us or not is NOT matter. Because you don't have to like us. YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH US. I'M IN AMERICA. AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA IS ISLAAM. WE ARE HERE TO STAY. YOU DON'T LIKE IT COME WITH BILL CLINTON AND KISSMYA$$.


Bubble Buster
"You mess with the BEST
You LOSE like the REST!"

One Thousand Four Hundred Twenty One Years?!

"It will matter little if you do not help the Prophet, for Allah surely helped him when the unbelievers drove him out of his home and he was but one of the two when they were in the cave, and when he said to his companion: 'Do not grieve. Allah is with us..' Then Allah caused His tranquility to descend upon him, and supported him with hosts you did not see; and He humbled the word of the unbelievers. And Allah's word is inherently uppermost. Allah is All-Powerful, All-Wise." 9:40

He was chased out of town. He was marked for assasination. His enemies were many. His friends were few. His enemies trusted him as much as his friends. He did not own much. He loved everyone. He did not despise anyone. His mission shall continue . to establish Adl (Justice) and Amn (Peace) for everyone, no matter how much or how long it may take.

We date ourselves from the night Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) began his journey from Makkah to Madinah, one thousand four hundred and twenty one years ago. This journey is a history in itself and in it is a message for mankind of historical proportions. Incumbent it is upon humankind to pursue the establishment of Justice and Peace, he said.

Physical migration and perseverance is an important milestone on the road to establish Justice and Peace. Intellectual migration from the subjugated minds to an awakened spirit is equally important. Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was commanded and led to continue the struggle of establishing Justice and Peace. It is inspiring indeed to see the clarity and purpose of his mission inspite of life threatening challenges for himself and his handful friends.

The message of One God is timeless and universal started by Prophet Adam and continued by Ibrahim, Jesus and Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon all of them). Need of the day is to renew the same call that was made 1421 years ago.

The human society deserves to marvel its scientific achievements but cannot afford to admit its weaknesses. Moral degradation, selective justice, purposeless life, meaningless pursuits are coveted principles of modern society. In the Hijrah of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), we learn of an amazing blend of pursuing futurustic goals to establish Peace and Justice in the most adverse environment. His mission was flexible to accommodate everyone but never lost its purpose.

Followers of his mission must examine the much too flexible approaches and compromising attitudes being adapted today. The timeless and universal call of One God must continue to be made but not by compromises. Hijrah of minds and thinking is the need of the day.

O Allah (swt) bless us with clarity in our purpose and strength to pursue the mission Prophet Muhammad launched 1421 years ago. O Allah, empower us to actively participate in the struggle to give man, the peace and justice he is denying for himself for much too long. O Allah, help us not find ourselves wavering and compromising for small successes at the expense of eternal success. Ameen Ya Rabb.


Bubble Buster
"You mess with the BEST
You LOSE like the REST!"

In this world sometimes and on GupShup often one may run into AN IGNORANT AND STUPID MUSLIM. How to sopt them and how to handle them.

Rules to remember:

1) Remember, an ignorant and stupid Muslim/Muslima is a born stupid and refused to change. So don't try to change that moron.

2) Change your tone and style and give him/her a reality check with facts.

3) An ignorant and stupid Muslim/Muslima have no clue about Islaam and Noble Quran. When they talks only BRAIN FART comes out of their mouth.

4) An ignorant and stupid Muslim/Muslima will not prove anything nor they will present any fact. Because they are too stupid.

5) Ignorant and stupid Muslims tend to hang together. GupShup forum is the best thriving place for them.

6) Ignorant and stupid Muslims' brains have been totally washed by the ideological attacks of Kuffar. So don't expect any Islamic acts and deeds from them.

Ignorant and stupid Muslims are perfect example of:

THE HOUSE IS DARK (NO LIGHT) , BUT PARENTS GAVE THE NAME TO THEIR SON "CHIRAG DEEN."

So we can safely conclude that we have all "Chirag Deens" here with dark homes on GupShup.. :) :) :) :) :)


Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!

outlaw:

I sent you an email the day you asked for my email address. I got your email address from your profile. I wonder what happened to that? You can contact me [email protected]. I just wanted to let you know that I did attempt to contact you and left a message here.


Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!

Assalam-uAliakum
Brother Ghazi, I did recieve your e mail, thankyou. Inshallah I'll contact you very soon. :)

Regards
Outlaw

Outlaw:

There is a lot of garbage in your post, but here is what that really puts you on top of arrogance and self-centered shitheadedness:

“………... Kuffars like NYA, queer, ZZ and others are here to create mischief ambiguity ,confusion and nothing else. One must understand Quran ………..”

Firstly, who the hell decides NYA, Queer and ZZ are Kafir? Your god? ZZ and Queer are Hindus, NYA is an agnostic of Ahmadi persuasion. Unfortunately for you, the world does not revolve around “your” Quran and “your” non-existing God. Nor does it revolve around prophets or lowlife Mullas. The Term “Kafir” means “non-believer”, why does anyone have to believe in “your” jackass God? Everyone believes in whatever they want to believe in, there are some who may feel that it is either “them” or Kafir, or kncuklehead. So educate yourself and try to get out of that narrow hole that you and your idiot dull-witted fellows have been living for over 1400 years.

Give my love to all of them. And also to your neighbors and relatives.

[This message has been edited by Roman (edited April 09, 2000).]

[quote]
Originally posted by NYAhmadi:
**Outlaw:

There is a lot of garbage in your post, but here is what that really puts you on top of arrogance and self-centered shitheadedness:

“………... Kuffars like NYA, queer, ZZ and others are here to create mischief ambiguity ,confusion and nothing else. One must understand Quran ………..”

Firstly, who the hell decides NYA, Queer and ZZ are Kafir? Your god? ZZ and Queer are Hindus, NYA is an agnostic of Ahmadi persuasion. Unfortunately for you, the world does not revolve around “your” Quran and “your” non-existing God. Nor does it revolve around prophets or lowlife Mullas. The Term “Kafir” means “non-believer”, why does anyone have to believe in “your” jackass God? Everyone believes in whatever they want to believe in, there are some who may feel that it is either “them” or Kafir, or kncuklehead. So educate yourself and try to get out of that narrow hole that you and your idiot dull-witted fellows have been living for over 1400 years.

Give my love to all of them. And also to your neighbors and relatives. **
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NYAhmadi:

Ag·nos·tic ("NYA is an agnostic of Ahmadi persuasion") is the One who believes that there can be no proof of the existence of God but does not deny the possibility that God exists.

Your insults and hate against Islam, God and Quran and Muslims are well noted. However, if a person claims he has seen no tangible proof for the existence of God and therefore he denies the existence of a Creative Force or God. **He may not be aware that such a denial also needs proof. **The question is do you have the tangible proof for the non-existence of God? One does not have a tangible proof for the existence of "life" on other planet(s), but that does not prove there is none. People at one time believed, what was "observable" by man was the Universe. Today, the same old Universe is known to be far beyond the human observation.

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[This message has been edited by Roman (edited April 09, 2000).]

Chand Mian,

some of the stuff in your prev post is word to word that you wrote under the pseudo "Irrefragible" while debating on the existance of God? ..LOL.. sorry man, but your slip's showing, newayz, Welcome back, Irref aka BB aka Ghazi aka Crunchy aka Chand Mian, good to see you aint calling much of names now. :)

[quote]
Originally posted by queer:
**
Chand Mian,

some of the stuff in your prev post is word to word that you wrote under the pseudo "Irrefragible" while debating on the existance of God? ..LOL.. sorry man, but your slip's showing, newayz, Welcome back, Irref aka BB aka Ghazi aka Crunchy aka Chand Mian, good to see you aint calling much of names now. :)**
[/quote]

queer:

You are not that bright you think you are? I quoted him. Beside I am using Ennglish and to express oneself we have same vocublary. You are not good sports. Why don't you find some other business?

Guys, let's put a brake on Bubble & Co. references, shall we?

[quote]
Originally posted by NYAhmadi:
**Outlaw:

There is a lot of garbage in your post, but here is what that really puts you on top of arrogance and self-centered shitheadedness:

“………... Kuffars like NYA, queer, ZZ and others are here to create mischief ambiguity ,confusion and nothing else. One must understand Quran ………..”

Firstly, who the hell decides NYA, Queer and ZZ are Kafir? Your god? ZZ and Queer are Hindus, NYA is an agnostic of Ahmadi persuasion. Unfortunately for you, the world does not revolve around “your” Quran and “your” non-existing God. Nor does it revolve around dumbheaded prophets or lowlife Mullas. The Term “Kafir” means “non-believer”, why does anyone have to believe in “your” jackass God? Everyone believes in whatever they want to believe in, there are some who may feel that it is either “them” or Kafir, or kncuklehead. So educate yourself and try to get out of that narrow hole that you and your idiot dull-witted fellows have been living for over 1400 years.

Give my love to all of them. And also to your neighbors and relatives. **
[/quote]

Admin:

What you say about this post? You claim to be Muslim and this forum to be about Islam. This is what your page about forum says (defines):

"
Religion
Discussions on Islamic and other religious matters - especially in Pakistan and generally all over the world."

Can you tell me how many of the threads have actual engaging religious discussions and how many threads are already there which have nothing to do with religions? What are you watching by the way? You still claim to be Muslim??? Don't you think you are required to act on such posts yourself according to your own so-called rules and according to your faith?

It is incumbent that we spread knowledge of the 'aqeedah [creed] throughout our ummah, and the correct creed at all levels, in particular the 'aqeedah of "al-walaa' wal-baraa" and that we proclaim that the [Middle East] conflict is an Islamic conflict and that at the Madrid [peace] conference Islam was not represented, for we neither heard therein "Allah said..." or "His Messenger said..." or that "Jerusalem belongs only to the Muslims." The Middle East question is fundamentally Islamic and is not particular to the Palestinians or the Arabs alone.
It is an Islamic question touching all Muslims till the Hour of Judgement is established.

Assalamu alaa manitaba al Huda,

To all my brothers (and sisters) of the Ahle Sunnah w'al JamaaH the "Saved Sect", I say ignore what the kaafirs like NYA, Queer etc. are saying. Leave them alone.

There are some people who are openm minded and willing to learn; others are not. To them just say,

"To you your religion, to me mine."

Remember
La hawla wa la quwwata ila billah.

Assalatu wa assalamu alayka Ya Rasool Allah!

Asif wrote:

I say ignore what the kaafirs like NYA, Queer etc. are saying. Leave them alone<

It's a deal. you guys leave our religions alone and we wont bother you. you cant indulge in mud-slinging at other's religions and hope to stay clean.