Footage of an American massacre in Iraq 2007

Take a look at this footage of salughter of civilians by American Zionists in Iraq. Only reason these changezis massacred those people was that two of them were carrying AK47, and two of them with cameras were falsely (deliberately?) identified as having RPG’s. The two with cameras were Reuters’ Iraqi journalists, and other two had AK47’s because of the security situation of the city at that time. Furthermore, possession of weapons is not the reason to kill someone anywhere in the world. There was no hostile act nor was there any sign of it.
That was a plain murder.
By the way, two children were also injured during this massacre.

I heard on radio that at one point an American vehicle then runs over a body. Seeing this a crusader in one chopper starts laughing. It was later learned through interviews that the man was only wounded and still alive when he was run over.

Saddest part is that American government tried to do a COVERUP of this massacre. America insisted that people who were killed were all insurgents, except for the two Reuters reporters.

Now wikileaks has received this exclusive footage of the massacre.
Before watching this video, be warned that it shows people getting shot and killed.

[Whistleblower Report: Leaked Video Shows U.S. ‘Coverup’ | Danger Room | Wired.com](http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/04/whistleblower-report-leaked-video-shows-us-coverup/)

American Zionist media repeated the government’s lies over and over again without any authentication.
Here is a report (lies) from Washington Post about this incident.

Washinton Post Report
The Apache crew fired because militants “were endangering the stability of Iraq” and because they had positive identification that the militants “had weapons and were using them against coalition and Iraqi security forces,” said Maj. Brent Cummings, the battalion’s executive officer.

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yar what can i say after viewing this video.being a family forum i cant express it here.
baishermi ki bhi koi intiha hoti hai.
poor kids.

مسلمانوں کی آج کل ابتر حالت ہے۔ اسلیے ان سے دشمنی ابھی ہمارے مفاد میں نہیں۔ لیکن دوستو! ایک بات یاد رکھنا کہ یہ لوگ مسلمانوں کے دوست نہیں ہوسکتے۔ کبھی بھی ان پر بھروسا نہ کرنا۔

Eyewitness account of that massacre.

EXCLUSIVE: One Day After 2007 Attack, Witnesses Describe US Killings of Iraqi Civilians

WITNESS 1: [translated] The helicopter came yesterday from there and hovered around. Then it came right here where a group of people were standing. They didn’t have any weapons or arms of any sort. This area doesn’t have armed insurgents. They destroyed the place and shot at people, and they didn’t let anyone help the wounded.

WITNESS 2: [translated] I swear to God it was helicopters that attacked us. These people are all witnesses. They attacked us twice, not once.

RICK ROWLEY: Another resident went on to describe what happened to the man who tried to help the wounded.

WITNESS 3: [translated] The driver went to carry the injured, who had been shot in front of his eyes. While he was going to pick them up, the pilot of the helicopter kept flying above, watching the scene. They started firing at the wounded and the dead. The driver and the two children were also there. The helicopter continued shooting until none of the bodies were moving.

RICK ROWLEY: We asked the crowd of people what might have prompted the attack, and they said that when the journalist arrived, residents quickly gathered around him.

WITNESS 2: [translated] The group of civilians had gathered here because people need cooking oil and gas. They wanted to demonstrate in front of the media and show that they need things like oil, gas, water and electricity. The situation here is dramatically deteriorating. The journalists were walking around, and then the Americans started shooting. They started shooting randomly and targeted peaceful civilians from the neighborhood.

WITNESS 3: [translated] There were children in the car. Were they carrying weapons? There were two children.

**WITNESS 2: **[translated] Do we help the wounded or kill them? They killed all the wounded and drove over their bodies. Everyone witnessed it. And the journalist was among those who was injured, **and the armored vehicle drove over his body. **

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americans did the terrible job in Iraq. as per this video from 2007 (3 years ago)

And every human being should be siding with the innocents killed.

Should we stop at this or

Condemn the Iraqi Jihadists who are still killing 100s of innocent iraqis at this very moment (in 2010)?

Or our condemnation should stay focused only on Americans.

Just wondering where this thread is going!

Oxymoron.

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Nah Posh spice is one of those idiots that looks forward to the fact that one day he can be an American. So he supports everything the Americans do including war crimes like this incident.

Shame really Posh spice won't condemn the incident that kills innocent people.

Double Post.

Read #5 and it clearly says:
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And every human being should be siding with the innocents killed.
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Do you have immunity from mods and that's why you are free to hurl abuses on other posters?

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oye poshy, how do you overlook the fact of **1MILLION IRAQIS **slaughtered by AMERICA? Oh wait let me guess, the American pardah infront of your eyes doesn’t let you see.. :rolleyes:

LOL @ immunity, we should be asking YOU that question. you freely call us jihadist, islamists and other derogatory words.. keep on posting, your hypocrisy is clearly showing.

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And yet this video doesn't garner half the reaction that the video of the 'taliban' spanking that little girl did. That's us. We're all on our way to hell.

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That is because the mod Muslims on this website don't care about Muslims dying unless they can blame Islam and the Taliban. Its kinda shocking that the usual suspects who get on the case of the Taliban are tellingly absent from this thread.

Posh spice, then simply state you condemn the US Military for committing war crimes.

Yet another personal abuse!

You too CP obviously have "She-pecial" relationship with the like minded mods.

Massacres by extremists can not be used to justify massacres by "civilized" war criminals.
When Zionist Americans and govt are exposed like this then what is needed from a moral person is just plain simple CONDEMNATION of the crime, WITHOUT any if's and but's.
This is what Zionists like you preach to Muslims when they condemn extremists' massacres BUT then try to give reason of their actions.

Beside the crime committed by American soldiers, what is EVEN MORE condemnable is the lies thrown out by American govt and "independent" media outlets like CNN. Actually, what's more astonishing is that American government REFUSE to open up this investigation even after this video of the crime has been made public!

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Though unfortunate, and ultimately preventable with a more robust Rules of Engagement(ROE), i still did not see anything that could be considered indiscriminate killings as the sensationalists suggest, this is most likely a terrible mistake in judgment by the helicopter crew, but given the fog of war and combat operations in the surrounding area, its not unreasonable to say that a group of men gathering around a street corner would be viewed upon suspiciously, especially when insurgents on many many occasions have used street corners to set up ambushes.

Also, lets not forget this was in 2007, the height of the Iraq war, the year with the highest US causalities, so for one, we know the war was in full swing, and given the high causalities and number of combat operations, it's not unreasonable to say that US forces are likely to pick targets more liberally, also according to US ROE and the Geneva convention rules of war, they must give civilians prior warning before any combat operations in a civilian area, and since this is not questioned in any report, its safe to assume, that civilians in that area was warned well in advance before any combat took place. So given that information, the likelihood that a group of men could be insurgents vs civilians(who should know its unsafe) is rather blurred, and its not completely wrong for US forces to assume the worse.

Two, many have questioned if there was any combat in that area at all, and the US military was just targeting groups of people at random. I am puzzled as to how this could be the case, since Reuters themselves claim that the two journalists where there in that location because they heard reports of fighting in the area. Also the presence of US troops near by along with a Bradley light armored vehicle, plus a attack helicopter should also reinforce the face that, there was something going on in that area. Though there might not be fighting in the same street where the journalists were killed, but fighting did occur in the surrounding area, and men gathering in a combat zone have a high risk of being identified as enemy combatants.

Three, some say the attack was unprovoked, this is a ridiculous idea considering, when fighting wars, one does not give the enemy the liberty to attack first, you neutralize threats as soon as you find them. If you see insurgents with weapons, you take them out, you don't wait till they shoot at you, risk taking causalities and then shoot back. In this particular case, the Apache pilot, identified that the group of men were armed, one with a RPG. This might or might not be factual, since i have not seen any reports proving or disproving that they had weapons, but the reality is, who is a threat and who isn't is left to the judgment of the troops in the front, sometimes they are wrong and civilians get killed, but putting this in 2007 context where the war is at its height, its hard to blame the troops for assuming the worse.

Four, No one really broke any rules here, the whole thing is a mistake, and the rules might need to be revised, but no one is really wrong, not the journalists nor the troops, they were both doing their jobs, watching the video clearly shows that permission was asked on all occasions before engagement, so the pilots did not break any rules. They definitely screwed up, but when you factor in the fog of war and the whole context of the situation, screw ups are unavoidable.

I do believe that the US military should be more strict on target selection, but this a fine balancing act between safety of civilians vs safety of soldiers. Unfortunately, its the nature of war to be unsafe and unpredictable. These journalists are causalities of war, not indiscriminate murder.

If this was the "height of Iraq war", as you put it, then the ROE, as you put it, become EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.
How can you just write-off a massacre by calling it merely "unfortunate"?

Can you kill a man by mistake and get excused from the court of law?

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Four, No one really broke any rules here, the whole thing is a mistake,
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How do you KNOW it was a mistake?
And how can you say no rules were broken when Rules of Engagement were not followed? Don't you know that American government LIED to the world that these people were killed because they attacked Americans? *They had to come up with this lie because rules WERE broken. *

Also, possession of weapons is not a crime anywhere in the world. Especially in a country with no government that was being torn-apart by sectarian violence.
Didn't those occupiers know about this obvious thing?

Now let me tell you that the ease and impunity with which those changezis attacked people, and the way they were laughing when they ran over bodies was the sign of their extreme hatred of Iraqis. You expect these high-school drop-out, muslim-haters to follow the Rules of Engagement?

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I do believe that the US military should be more strict on target selection, but this a fine balancing act between safety of civilians vs safety of soldiers.
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There was no concern of safety of soldiers from those civilians, because the soldiers were UP IN THE CHOPPER, you ...

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when you factor in the fog of war and the whole context of the situation, screw ups are unavoidable.
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Are lies to cover-up those screw-ups also unavoidable?
How about calling this massacre a "massacre" and punishing those who committed those screw ups?

This amriki apologist thinks that the anger we are showing here is based on this one massacre alone. What he does not understand is that this massacre was unique because its original video was unearthed and released to public, and also because the lies of American government were so clearly shown. The anger is because this video is just an example of the behavior of many soldiers.

This is not the ONLY incidence of massacre. Remember Blackwater, who became SO notorious of their extreme disregard to Iraqi lives and their propensity to making such deliberate "mistakes" that in the end Iraqi government itself had to refuse them to come to Iraq.


Guys, I am not saying anything on my own. All of what I said is reported by American media itself. It makes no sense that Americans could criticize the wrong-doings of their governments and others can't.

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This guy’s actions too were ‘mistakes’. Like Raabert says in Andaz Apna Apna, ghalti se mishtake ho gaya.

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Put it this way the Americans have killed more civilians in Iraq than the Sudanese government did in Darfur. And Al Bashir was indicted for War Crimes. Telling no"?

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Some reactions:

WikiLeaks’ Iraq Killings Video Reaction
On several occasions, the Apache gunner appears to fire rounds into people after there is evidence that they are have either died or are suffering from debilitating wounds. The Rules of Engagement and the Law of Armed Combat do not permit combatants to shoot at people who are surrendering or who no longer pose a threat because of their injuries. What about the people in the van who had come to assist the struggling man on the ground? The Geneva Conventions state that protections must be afforded to people who "collect and care for the wounded, whether friend or foe."

and this:

“**We have this video because two of the people who were killed were Reuters employees. How many other civilians were killed in similar circumstances **whose names we will never know, because they had no powerful Western employers to publicise their deaths and file FOIA requests?”

*and this is about the building the Amreekis blew after they had killed the dozen people:
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“Fresh reports indicate the killings shown on the video were just a warm-up for what happened next..
Thirty minutes later the same pilot(s) fired a hellfire missile into a house with three families inside obliterating the three families.

here the commentator explains why it may not be a mistake:

The first incident APPEARS to be an “honest and understandable” mistake but when you study the video you hear the pilot giving his commanders completely fabricated intel:

  1. “They’ve got six AK-47s”
  2. “They’re shooting.”
    Yes, we’ve since established the pilot thought the camera equipment were AK-47s and when he reported this, it may have been an “honest and understandable” mistake. **But when he reported there were “six AK-47s” this was a DELIBERATE LIE made to gord his commanders into giving him permission to engage. **
    In other words, he was knowingly reporting false intel that led to the unnecessary deaths of 12 people.

Moreover, this caused his commanders to become accessories in the mass murder when all they were trying to do was protect him from a danger he fabricated.
They didn’t know he was lying. They were conned into giving him permission to engage.

Then came the attack on the van. Where is the Apache pilot’s “fear for his life” there? Why was that anything but wanton murder?
I don’t think any person of integrity can watch this video without being sickened by the raw brutality of the shootings and the craven lawlessness of the cover-up.
This is one of the most despicable examples of outright murder I’ve ever seen.

some more about that PSYCHOPATH’s supposed “error” or mistake:

Error?
If they saw 2 objects, reported 2 weapons and shot 2 people then this might have passed for a tragic error.
This is not what we see.
They saw 2 objects, reported 6 weapons, and shot 12 unarmed persons.
The rescue van with children clearly had no weapons and there were none to “pick up” despite this being reported. In all “rules of engagement” it is unlawful to kill persons involved only in the rescue of wounded.

More, the Reuters news agency wanted a copy of this evidence and was denied. Army investigation into this action found it a ‘standard operation’ with no irregularities. Sadly, it looks to be just that, standard procedure.

The war in Iraq is over, and the US Army has lost. These are not heroes, but criminals. Those fighting the “war on terrorists” have become terrorists.