Re: Flirting with someone who's not your husband/wife...
Maybe a better way to ask or frame the question is: When does harmless banter become flirtation? (which as Red suggested merits it's own thread).
Yo Sehrysh. It becomes flirtation when the only purpose you have is to be in bed with that person. Because actions speaks louder than words litterally (later on).
Re: Flirting with someone who's not your husband/wife...
yeah iono, prolly prudeish of me but if you're married there's no reason for you to have 'fazool' (nikkys fave word) convo with someone else. why do it? is your spouse not enough? do you get some sort of pleasure out of flirting with someone other than who you're supposedly committed to?
Re: Flirting with someone who's not your husband/wife...
yeah iono, prolly prudeish of me but if you're married there's no reason for you to have 'fazool' (nikkys fave word) convo with someone else. why do it? is your spouse not enough? do you get some sort of pleasure out of flirting with someone other than who you're supposedly committed to?
Re: Flirting with someone who's not your husband/wife...
In this case their spouses were present, but what if the spouse isn't present? Is flirting/bantering okay/permissable if the spouse is there and is sanctioning the conduct?
That is the religious/moral answer, but the reality is that co-ed socializing is the norm - so how far does this co-ed socializing go - at what point is the conduct inappropriate?
If you throw religion/morals out the window, then nothing's inappropriate.
Re: Flirting with someone who's not your husband/wife...
so how would we define what is casual chatting, haal ahwal or flirtatious banter !
I think the this line is a lot thinner for women and alot of people misinterpret a woman's casual banter to flirtation immediately. Why I have seen men claiming the next woman to have a crush on them by just saying 'her body language' said so !
But one should obviously maintain reasonable respectable distance with people other than their spouse. And like Reha said Allah has got this inner guilt thing which rings off immediately when we know we are treading in deeper waters! :)
Re: Flirting with someone who's not your husband/wife...
Couples aside, "saalis" often "flirt" with their BIL if you want to be an absolutely prude and view banter as flirting. I dont know what the line is, as for every person it is different. It is all about intent at the very end. Intent is what makes it wrong or acceptable. And intent is only know by the people in question or by Allah. I tend not to judge, or try not to at least
Re: Flirting with someone who's not your husband/wife...
Couples aside, "saalis" often "flirt" with their BIL if you want to be an absolutely prude and view banter as flirting. I dont know what the line is, as for every person it is different. It is all about intent at the very end. Intent is what makes it wrong or acceptable. And intent is only know by the people in question or by Allah. I tend not to judge, or try not to at least
What intent? Are we looking at the intent to cheat on one's partner or the intent to engage in inappropriate banter? Can a person say that I meant no harm with my fuzool baatein because I was never going to actually be unfaithful to my partner or is the person measuring their conduct by whether what that they said/did was in itself inappropriate?I'd lay odds that most people aren't planning on being unfaithful to their partner, BUT that doesn't make inappropriate banter/flirting acceptable either.