Flirting with Palin earns Pakistani president a fatwa

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Lahore, Pakistan - After the flirtation came the fatwa.
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With some overly friendly comments to Gov. Sarah Palin at the United Nations, Asif Ali Zardari has succeeded in uniting one of Pakistan’s hard-line mosques and its feminists after a few weeks in office.

A radical Muslim prayer leader said the president shamed the nation for “indecent gestures, filthy remarks, and repeated praise of a non-Muslim lady wearing a short skirt.” :rotfl:

Feminists charged that once again a male Pakistani leader has embarrassed the country with sexist remarks. And across the board, the Pakistani press has shown disapproval.

What did President Zardari do to draw such scorn? It might have been the “gorgeous” compliment he gave Ms. Palin when the two met at the UN last week during her meet-and-greet with foreign leaders ahead of Thursday’s vice presidential debate with opponent Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee.

But the comments from Zardari didn’t end there. He went on to tell Palin: “Now I know why the whole of America is crazy about you.”

“You are so nice,” replied the Republican vice presidential hopeful, smiling. “Thank you.”

But what may have really caused Pakistan’s radical religious leaders to stew was his comment that he might “hug” Palin if his handler insisted.

Though the fatwa, issued days after the Sept. 24 exchange, carries little weight among most Pakistanis, it’s indicative of the anger felt by Pakistan’s increasingly assertive conservatives who consider physical contact and flattery between a man and woman who aren’t married to each other distasteful. Though fatwas, or religious edicts, can range from advice on daily life to death sentences, this one does not call for any action or violence.

Last year, the mosque that issued the fatwa, Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) in Islamabad, condemned the former tourism minister, Nilofar Bahktiar, after she was photographed being hugged by a male parachuting coach in France.

Clerics declared the act a “great sin” and, though less vocal about it, similar sentiments were shared by many among Pakistani’s middle classes. The Red Mosque gained international infamy in July 2007 after becoming the focal point of a Pakistan Army operation.

For the feminists it’s less about cozying up to a non-Muslim woman and more about the sexist remarks by Zardari.

“As a Pakistani and as a woman, it was shameful and unacceptable. He was looking upon her merely as a woman and not as a politician in her own right,” says Tahira Abdullah, a member of the Women’s Action Forum.

Dismissing the mosque’s concerns as “ranting,” she, however, adds: “He should show some decorum – if he loved his wife so much as to press for a United Nations investigation into her death, he should behave like a mourning widower,” in reference to former Pakistani premier Benazir Bhutto, a feminist icon for millions of Pakistani women.

The theme of decorum was picked up by English daily Dawn, whose editorial asked: “Why do our presidents always end up embarrassing us internationally by making sexist remarks?”

The incident bears some resemblance to yet another charm offensive by a senior Pakistani politician. Marcus Mabry’s biography of Condoleezza Rice includes a passage in which he relates a meeting between former Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz and Ms. Rice, in which Mr. Aziz was said to have stared deeply into the secretary of State’s eyes and to have told her he could “conquer any woman in two minutes.”

There are some, however, who see things as having been blown out of proportion.

“It was a sweet and innocuous exchange played as an international incident on Pakistani and rascally Indian front-pages with one English daily [writing] it in a scarlet box, half-implying Mrs. Palin would ditch Alaska’s First Dude and become Pakistan’s First Babe. As if,” wrote columnist Fasih Ahmed in the Daily Times.

For most, it will soon be forgotten in a country dealing with terrorism, rising food prices, and a struggling economy. “We don’t care that much how they [politicians] behave – what really matters is keeping prices down,” says Nazeera Bibi, a maid in Lahore.

Re: Flirting with Palin earns Pakistani president a fatwa

Merc, lets not be hypocrites here:

When this happened, this was your response

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Palin must have a bad impressions of Pakistanis after meeting these bozos
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When one cleric (whom you dislike) said it was a great sin and unislamic, you are laughing (looooling) at him.

I think the cleric did a better job than you, for verbally condemning such behavior from the great president of the Islamic republic of Pakistan.

No no, u misunderstood me.....

i actually agree with the fatwa.......but i like the way he states it, wearing a short skirt, hahahaha

but ya, this buffoon of a President is a total idiot

atleast Musharraf never did anything like this

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^ Musharraf with his hardly charming personality, that thick accent of his, and his ‘khoobsurti’ wasnt gonna get anywhere. Im glad he didnt try hitting on people. However, check this out:

When Aziz was ‘stared down’ by Condi Rice

I actually think Zardari feels good about himself, considering Palin kept on calling him ‘nice’ and blushed. Shauky on the other hand failed, even with Condi Rice :slight_smile:

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^^ damn, Palin is atleast a MILF and she has a sexy body after giving birth to 5 kids, but Condi............

ppl need to chill

hail the way, you twist even the things you liked about Musharraf.

Are you actually implying that Zardari, on the other hand, has a charming personality with not-so-wannabe-brit accent and he is actually khoobsoorat? I sure hope not.

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Umm, that's quite a crude and perverted comment :S Not something I'd expect (or want to) read on a Pakistani forum.

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This Zardari guy looks like pakistani stage artist Aftab Alam and talks like Mr. Bean

This is the only picture of Aftab Alam I have found. Perhaps ARJAY can help here. :slight_smile:

http://www.livevisionusa.com/tv_images/reviews_23.jpg

P.S. I didn’t know I could just paste the pictures here like that. hmmmm… Cool

...wonder no one given fatwa against mercenary for writing crude comments against woman.. whereas appreciating ones beauty in nice way results in issuing fatwa...

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gosh diz guy iz soo jealous of musharraf..makes me crack up how he comes up with stupid remarks..juz chill dude!..atleast he dint get a hair transplant..duh

I stopped supporting Mush once he started behaving more and more like a dictator but let's be fair here. Just see some of Zardari's early wedding photos, he looks like a 'bhungi' (sorry but could not resist it!!) in that 'pug' and big moustache of his. The guy just never deserved to have a wife like Benazir

Musharraf may not exactly be khoobsoorat but his looks were very passable, generally came across as an intelligent and capable man and by and large conducted himself well in public gatherings. When he spoke people listened to him, he had a certain presence. Same can't be said about our present buffoons. Compare Mush's resignation speech with the recent speeches given by both Gilani and Zardari (they were utter disasters!!) Mush was composed, spoke like a leader and spoke well and though he got a little tearful towards the end (and understandably so, his R eye was watering...) he quickly collected himself and finished well. His army-styled, forced Punjabi accent should not count against him

NS is another useless guy......dus jumlay bolay ga aur dekhnay aur sunnay wale ko phir bhi samajh nahin aaye gi k kambakhat kehna kya chah raha hai!! His brother Shahbaz is better, he is eloquent and usu. concise and to the point

I am sorry but Gilani and Zardari just don't cut it as leaders. They don't look like leaders for a start. I know it's early days for them but the point is Zia, Leghari, GIK and Musharraf, even Short Cut and BB were never as bad as these two buffoons.

I was no big fan of Mush but let's give credit where it is due. I hate him for the treason he committed against the nation by allowing the same corrupt politicians and looters back to rule us. I can never forgive him for that. But I thought he ran the country well till about 2002/3

:Dor the two jokers.

Yes well stated and totally agree with you.

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nice balanced view.
why was it a forced punjabi accent. thats how he spoke.
I remember from his communication, that was captured by indian intelligence during the kargil conflict.

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You know what I found interesting? That the conservative party VP nominee is considered "too liberal" under the lens of a Islamic Pakistani viewpoint (not the short skirt comment).

I think that Zardaris comments were in poor taste, I mean if he had to say something, why couldn't he wait until the cameras had stopped rolling or did he put on the full court press in private? Palin is married you know?

Everything aside Zardari has some cojones :D

How are you so sure about it? … may be not with any [nominated] world leader but i heard of a celebrity.

Watch Javed Chaudry in “Kal Tak” (search for the program after this Palin incident on pkpolitics.com) … he said about Mush that when he went to India, he asked Gujraal to call Rani Mukharji in a party; she was called upon, and there he praised her beauty blah blah … in that show you’d hear such scandals of many past leaders of Pakistan.

ok, here’s that show i found it Kal Tak - 26 September 2008 | Pakistan Politics

But there is a difference…if Mush did it on occasions he did so in a refined manner unlike this chichora who grins all the time for no good reason. While it is important to have a good sense of humour and cut jokes from time to time, it is not necessary to bare your teeth all the time. You are the President of an important muslim country, atleast behave like a statesman now.