Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
marwati bhai saheb, you should care for your history lessons and try to look at events from neutral perspective. If being Muslim and attached to Pakistan was the solution of all problems, we didn't have incidents like fall of Dhaka.
PS: I'm less concerned with this Kashmir atoot ang and Kashmir Shah-rug slogans, when I see current problems of Pakistan due to militant ideologies.
PS2: There are sources other than History forum to get rid of tunnel view.
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
The fate of millions of Bengali Muslims in 1971. See who is shedding crocodile tears for Indian Muslims. 
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
^^^ kashmir is hindu place by its name, named after Maharishi Kashyap of Hinduism, and we kashmiri pandits were there in our land much before even Prophet(pbuh) was born, so how suddenly it has become muslim place? We didn't invade their land, and how come gilanis and bukharis be native, their name suggests otherwise, it is in reality a place of ours, nehrus, kauls, haskars and Dhars :)
the very same muslims whom you are defending here, made us homeless, made us to leave our land by force of gun, so when they face similar situation they must brave it, since this is the war they started :)
Lol by that logic , punjab and sindh are also hindu places as its people converted from hinduism.....
And look at you, in another thread you were acting like spokeperson for kashmiri Muslims by sprouting non-sense that they hate pathans and here you are justifying discrimination against them on the grounds that they started the "war". Dont be a narrow-minded hindu of shive sina and RSS, in civilized world you can cheer for any team and no sedition charges will be enforced on you. In Pakistan, some people even cheer for indian team, we are not uptight about it.
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
marwati bhai saheb, you should care for your history lessons and try to look at events from neutral perspective. If being Muslim and attached to Pakistan was the solution of all problems, we didn't have incidents like fall of Dhaka.
PS: I'm less concerned with this Kashmir atoot ang and Kashmir Shah-rug slogans, when I see current problems of Pakistan due to militant ideologies.
PS2: There are sources other than History forum to get rid of tunnel view.
I would advise you to be neutral , you dont have to rub yourself with indians and their material to look cool
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
^^ Of course it is, and that is why sindhi hindus still live in Sindh,If same can be done in Kashmir, Pandits won't oppose it. Sindhis never denied right of hindus to live like Kashmiri Muslims did, they acted as Isrelis react to Palenstinian Arabs. see as soon as I gave you historic logic, you branded me as Shiv sena ideaolgue, if right to live in my land comes in that way, I don't mind being RSS, anyways RSS in its ideology is not much different from historical muslim league :)
I was never spokesman of Kashmiri muslim, why would I be spokesman of such people, I only stated what they told me.
and in a country where people are jailed on blasphemy, there if someone cheers for another country will soon be taken care of :)
Forming a nation is seprate issue from expelling people
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
I don't need to follow people from India and their material. The way looters have been galmorised in our society and the result for such attitude is enough eye opener.
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
Atrocities which were committed by secular and angrazified army…nowadays army is legacy of zia ul haq, not a single case of rape by them in balochistan and FATA. no reports of genocides except inevitable collateral damages.
On the other hand your army has not changed, thousands of kashmiri women got raped by napak hindu army…and here muqawee is telling me that he dont care about kashmir…he lives in distant sindh and perhaps live in his own sindhi world but i am resident of abbotabad and i do come across kashmiris.
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
^^ Of course it is, and that is why sindhi hindus still live in Sindh,If same can be done in Kashmir, Pandits won't oppose it. Sindhis never denied right of hindus to live like Kashmiri Muslims did, they acted as Isrelis react to Palenstinian Arabs. see as soon as I gave you historic logic, you branded me as Shiv sena ideaolgue, if right to live in my land comes in that way, I don't mind being RSS, anyways RSS in its ideology is not much different from historical muslim league :)
I was never spokesman of Kashmiri muslim, why would I be spokesman of such people, I only stated what they told me.
and in a country where people are jailed on blasphemy, there if someone cheers for another country will soon be taken care of :)
Forming a nation is seprate issue from expelling people
Listen man, lets be honest. Local Kashmiri muslims didnt expel hindus, it were punjab-based extremist militant organizations from pakistan who carried out some attacks against hindus, forcing them to leave the valley. the same militant organizations have now joined hands with taliban.
You are islamophobic, it wont matter to you if pakistani militants were responsible for your migration, you would blame and hate kashmiri muslims any way.
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
Atrocities which were committed by secular and angrazified army.........nowadays army is legacy of zia ul haq, not a single case of rape by them in balochistan and FATA. no reports of genocides except inevitable collateral damages.
On the other hand your army has not changed, thousands of kashmiri women got raped by napak hindu army.........and here muqawee is telling me that he dont care about kashmir.....he lives in distant sindh and perhaps live in his own sindhi world but i am resident of abbotabad and i do come across kashmiris.
Yes I live in distant Sindh. The Sindh that was burning during Zia regime, but still Mujahids were working for Afghan Jihad. why? Because these Mujahids never considered Sindhis as true Muslims.
Have you ever cried over firing incident of Pakistan army on Sindh University's students? Do you know what happened at ToRhi Phaatak Jamoshoro during Zia regime?
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^^ Just a query, did you ever saw Osama's house before Seals executed him?
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Listen man, lets be honest. Local Kashmiri muslims didnt expel hindus, it were punjab-based extremist militant organizations from pakistan who carried out some attacks against hindus, forcing them to leave the valley. the same militant organizations have now joined hands with taliban. You are islamophobic, it wont matter to you if pakistani militants were responsible for your migration, you would blame and hate kashmiri muslims any way.
Ustad, speak to any kashmiri hindu about July 20, 1990, when all Masjids in Kashmir started shouting slogans to kill hindus, why shouldn't I be Islamophobic then, I am just Kashmirophobic though. We lived with these muslims before Durrani empire was formed. It wasn't issue even in independent India, I have nothing against Pashtun, they are not my people. People who betrayed us were Kashmiri Muslims whose male ancestors were Gilanis and Bhukharis :)
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
Atrocities which were committed by secular and angrazified army.........
On the other hand your army has not changed, thousands of kashmiri women got raped by napak hindu army.........
wah.. genocide in bengal = blame on *secular * army of pakistan, not muslim army.
rape and killing in kashmir = blame on napak **hindu **army.
do even you believe in the things you write?
Re: FIRST KASHMIR WAR 1947-1948
when I did my engineering - there were many students from Kashmir ( Kashmiri pandits) who had been accomodated by the indian govt after they were sent out of the valley.
They have real tragic stories to tell...how the neighbours they relied on , people they interacted with in daily life betrayed them....they were victims of very targetted terrorism.