Firm, Rock Solid Leader (captain)

Pakistan havent had any solid captain who captained the side for 2-3 + years in a row since Imran Khan.

weve seen miandad , saleem malik, rashed latif, aamer sohail, saeed anwar, inzi, waseem akram, waqar younis, Moin Khan, ramiz raja, and many more i guess.

and i dunt see inzi staying for a while .. i think they’ll change to yoyo. or in near future … shoaib malik…

they shud also test afridi :smiley: .. cuz that guy is intelligent …so is shoaib malik..

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.... they shud also test afridi :D .. cuz that guy is intelligent ...so is shoaib malik..
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By virtue of his performance, a captain should be an automatic selection for the playing 11. Afridi does find a spot in the test team and Shoaib Malik is not an automatic selection either. So how can they captain the team when they are not a part of playing 11.

Secondly, even though I see a smiley-like thing against Afridi's name but it would be good to know how does he count as an intelligent batsman.

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By virtue of his performance, a captain should be an automatic selection for the playing 11. Afridi does find a spot in the test team and Shoaib Malik is not an automatic selection either. So how can they captain the team when they are not a part of playing 11.

Secondly, even though I see a smiley-like thing against Afridi's name but it would be good to know how does he count as an intelligent batsman.
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since they already given every laloo panjoo a chance to captain the side.. why not afridi and shoaib malik..

chill :)

i think younis khan might be our future captain....
or perhaps abdur razzaq....

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By virtue of his performance, a captain should be an automatic selection for the playing 11.
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Sourav Ganguly.

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i think younis khan might be our future captain....
or perhaps abdur razzaq....
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Rather than just naming all individuals, we should try to back up our candidate with some rationale. I am not sure about Younis Khan but what sort of cricketing mind has Razzaq ever demonstrated. Look at some of his recent dissmissals and the way he gets hit by bowling at the same (wrong) spot again and again. I dont think he has the required presence of mind and/or leadership abilities.

u know the thing is a leader has to have an ability in him to lead. yes u can be the world's greatest baller or batsman but that doesnt mean u will be a good leader, take sachin for example undoubtly the world's greatest batsman but a leader, nah he wasnt able to lead, therefore we need someone who has a certain agression and does not back down, maybe u guys would oppose my view but if u c yoyo on the field he remains quiet thats not how a leader should be. I think the perfect man who shares a level of integrity like that of leader and speaks up for a challenge is shoaib Akhta, sure he is a snob but lemme tell u u have to have some pride within u to be a leader. Sure he wont be liked by everyone but his body language is that of someone important and perhaps that is why he is more in the news than any other pak player

now thats just an opinion but I think Shoaib should be tried once and we sould c his tactics for running the game.

Inzi has never captained even a first clas side and we made him Pakistan Team captain. What a joke?

I couldnt agree more with everyone;s remarks abt Inzi...but the fact is that WHEN he is in the middle batting..u know the team is in good hands...he has this calming effect on players...and he leads by example...atleast when he is batting...
true his captaincy is'nt the best one...but I do not see any other player in the team that is capable of being the captain...Razzaq's performance has deteriorated since Wasim left the team....Younus Khan is only good for 30s...yoyo is gonna be the same as Inzi....Shoaib Akhtar (although his prides and snobness reminds me of Imran Khan) is unfit all of the time....
hence i think for the time being Inzi is our best bet..
hoo aah

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Inzi has never captained even a first clas side and we made him Pakistan Team captain. What a joke?
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he was made make-shift captain before as well, I think.

U can be great batsman or great bowler but u can't be great captain(eg Great Suchen T) for great captain u have to have 20,20 IQ.

I do not see any change and I believe Inzi will be the captain when Pakistan will land in India in 05, and speaking about the other options we have the salient choices are:

a) Yousef Youhanna
b) Abdul Razzaq

apart from that I dont see any one who can handle the job and their place in the team, Irony the above mentioned options have axe hanging on their head as well. So lets just say what PCB did, extending the tenure of Inzi for 3 series was a wise choice. Till then plenty of time to choose a captain.

As for Shoaib being captain because of his "aggressive" attitude, I think we are making a fundamental mistake here. A captain's aggressiveness does not lie in his attitude/behavior in the field. He need not point people to the pavilion, nor does he need to shout at batsmen or let loose him emotions in other ways. Such a display is not a show of aggression. Rather it indicates indiscipline.

A captain needs to be aggressive in his thinking and in his policies. Steve Waugh and A. Ranatunga come as two immediate examples from relatively recent times.

Having said this, I would also add that Inzi's apparent calmness in the field (not while batting) is also not a indication that he is cool. This is most probably because he is not thinking at all. Generally he plans for things before and seldom changes the plan according to the changing situation.

Amongst the current team, I only see Youhana to be a shade better than Inzi. Rest are (apparantly) just not captain material.

YoYo is too defensive. Remember Multan against India, when he insisted to shave off the grass from the wickets. Captain is someone who can take some responsibility. This guy does not even wanna bat at # 3, because he is too scared to face a new ball. You need to be brave and bold to be a captain. Beside, he can only score in the sub continent (once in a blue moon). Captain, I think not

i think imran and akram were equally good and the best captains pakistan has ever had ...........

Kamran Akmal may be :p j/k

I see Shoaib Malik (if he continues with his performance) but it might be not since he is not a very good bowler to stay in team, but if he sticks to his current form in batting he would be a must in the team. And if he in the team (both versions of the game that is) then he can be our future captain. May be right after Inzi retired. He has the flair to keep the team spirit high.

Shoaib Akhter, nope. Aggression is not all a captain should have, good cricketing brain is required with man management skills. When and how to use your players plus an example for the team mates. We all know what kind of example Shoaib has displayed in last 5 years. Pathetic and unprofessional. So many times when team need him, he declared himself unfit and then next day he is fit for the game. Also his absence from team due to fitness problem will only create vaccum and inconsistancy (which is already on its peak).

Younis Khan has no ability of captainship, nor he has permenant place in the team.

Yoyo is just another Inzi, can't make quick decissions according to the conditions. But he is the strongest candidate for the position.

Abdul Razzaq, may be. But again he could only be a ODI captain, if we ever had two teams for ODI and tests then he could lead in ODI. An allrounder is always a great ODI captain.

Taufeeq Umer has captained Pakistan A for a while and looks like he has a good taste of cricket and knows application as well.

Yasir Hameed. May be the worst choice.

Sami, is ki tou chutti hone wali hai team se, so he is out of question too.

Rana, I think ppl will stop watching cricket if he ever gets to be Pakistan captain.

Keneria, No chance. Not even vice captain.

some people don't realize that in addition to being able to competently captain the team (decision-making skills, etc.), the other extremely important factor is that the captain must have the full respect of the rest of the team. so all the suggestions of lesser-knowns and newcomers will never work. the captain must have at least a mildly superior aura around him to the average team member.

with that said, the choices are obviously very limited on the Pakistani squad....but i still think the very obvious choice is Yousef Youhana.

i simply think that only a figure like imran or wasim, as mentioned above, is capable of leading the pakistani team. u need to be authoritative and command the respect of the players...if its someone like shoaib malik or any other youngster, none of our 'seniors' r ever gona comply wid them...
i personally thought that moin khan was a pretty tactful and smart captain..but then again that my personal opinion

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Kamran Akmal may be :p j/k

I see Shoaib Malik (if he continues with his performance) but it might be not since he is not a very good bowler to stay in team, but if he sticks to his current form in batting he would be a must in the team. And if he in the team (both versions of the game that is) then he can be our future captain. May be right after Inzi retired. He has the flair to keep the team spirit high.

Shoaib Akhter, nope. Aggression is not all a captain should have, good cricketing brain is required with man management skills. When and how to use your players plus an example for the team mates. We all know what kind of example Shoaib has displayed in last 5 years. Pathetic and unprofessional. So many times when team need him, he declared himself unfit and then next day he is fit for the game. Also his absence from team due to fitness problem will only create vaccum and inconsistancy (which is already on its peak).

Younis Khan has no ability of captainship, nor he has permenant place in the team.

Yoyo is just another Inzi, can't make quick decissions according to the conditions. But he is the strongest candidate for the position.

Abdul Razzaq, may be. But again he could only be a ODI captain, if we ever had two teams for ODI and tests then he could lead in ODI. An allrounder is always a great ODI captain.

Taufeeq Umer has captained Pakistan A for a while and looks like he has a good taste of cricket and knows application as well.

Yasir Hameed. May be the worst choice.

Sami, is ki tou chutti hone wali hai team se, so he is out of question too.

Rana, I think ppl will stop watching cricket if he ever gets to be Pakistan captain.

Keneria, No chance. Not even vice captain.
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we really need shabeer and umar gul back. tehy wudve done lotsa damage in australian lines than shoby and sami.

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Taufeeq Umer has captained Pakistan A for a while and looks like he has a good taste of cricket and knows application as well.

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waisay kamaal hai. Your love for Taufeeq is examplary. You even want to see him as captain. :D