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^^ Saudia , Emirate , ISI , Army will be asked to 'normalize' the situation using thier 'contacts'.
Back door channels with moderate talibans are already going on in Saudia.Actually the problem is Al-Qaeda not Talibans.Now see , what happens next.
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Wonderful Program
This is 6th August Program. 3 people in this debate are considered as authority on this issue in whole world.Al-Qaeda is the thing US and Europe consider most , not Talibans.This program helps alot to understand the whole complex situation.
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McChrystal: More Forces or ‘Mission Failure’**
Top U.S. Commander For Afghan War Calls Next 12 Months Decisive
By Bob Woodward
*Washington Post Staff Writer *
Monday, September 21, 2009
The top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan warns in an urgent, confidential assessment of the war that he needs more forces within the next year and bluntly states that without them, the eight-year conflict “will likely result in failure,” according to a copy of the 66-page document obtained by The Washington Post
Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal says emphatically: “Failure to gain the initiative and reverse insurgent momentum in the near-term (next 12 months) – while Afghan security capacity matures – risks an outcome where defeating the insurgency is no longer possible.”
His assessment was sent to Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates on Aug. 30 and is now being reviewed by President Obama and his national security team.
McChrystal concludes the document’s five-page Commander’s Summary on a note of muted optimism: “While the situation is serious, success is still achievable.”
But he repeatedly warns that without more forces and the rapid implementation of a genuine counterinsurgency strategy, defeat is likely. McChrystal describes an Afghan government riddled with corruption and an international force undermined by tactics that alienate civilians.
He provides extensive new details about the Taliban insurgency, which he calls a muscular and sophisticated enemy that uses modern propaganda and systematically reaches into Afghanistan’s prisons to recruit members and even plan operations.
McChrystal’s assessment is one of several options the White House is considering. His plan could intensify a national debate in which leading Democratic lawmakers have expressed reluctance about committing more troops to an increasingly unpopular war. Obama said last week that he will not decide whether to send more troops until he has “absolute clarity about what the strategy is going to be.”
The commander has prepared a separate detailed request for additional troops and other resources, but defense officials have said he is awaiting instructions before sending it to the Pentagon.
Senior administration officials asked The Post over the weekend to withhold brief portions of the assessment that they said could compromise future operations. A declassified version of the document, with some deletions made at the government’s request, appears at washingtonpost.com.
McChrystal makes clear that his call for more forces is predicated on the adoption of a strategy in which troops emphasize protecting Afghans rather than killing insurgents or controlling territory. Most starkly, he says: “*nadequate resources will likely result in failure. However, without a new strategy, the mission should not be resourced.”
‘Widespread Corruption’
The assessment offers an unsparing critique of the failings of the Afghan government, contending that official corruption is as much of a threat as the insurgency to the mission of the International Security Assistance Force, or ISAF, as the U.S.-led NATO coalition is widely known.
“The weakness of state institutions, malign actions of power-brokers, widespread corruption and abuse of power by various officials, and ISAF’s own errors, have given Afghans little reason to support their government,” McChrystal says.
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Anyone who prays for the US to be defeated while living in the US should leave.
Anyone who prays for the US to be defeated while living in the US should leave.
Why?
Anyone who prays for the US to be defeated while living in the US should leave.
I agree 100%. Hypocrites like that give patriotic Pakistani-Americans a bad name. Especially those who hope the US loses in Afghanistan--so that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda can come back to the US and bomb NYC again (not to mention that they will also turn their sights to Pakistan...). If there is another attack and it comes from Afghan-Pak the gloves will come off. These people cried about 60,000 US troops and occasional air strikes. If there is another attack on the US you will see a real war, i.e. 200,000-300,000 troops and regular air strikes.
I agree 100%. Hypocrites like that give patriotic Pakistani-Americans a bad name. Especially those who hope the US loses in Afghanistan--so that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda can come back to the US and bomb NYC again (not to mention that they will also turn their sights to Pakistan...). If there is another attack and it comes from Afghan-Pak the gloves will come off. These people cried about 60,000 US troops and occasional air strikes. If there is another attack on the US you will see a real war, i.e. 200,000-300,000 troops and regular air strikes.
And I would be among the first to enlist and fight if the U.S. is ever bombed again by Muslim extremists.
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I hope US is not defeated in Afghanistan. Because US defeat will be the victory for anti-Islam fasadis. This will make both Afghanistan and Pakistan insecure, and bring bad name for Islam.
While I would like to see Zionist US humiliated, but not in Afghanistan. The stakes are very high for Pakistan.
And I would be among the first to enlist and fight if the U.S. is ever bombed again by Muslim extremists.
Same here! It is a shame Bush made the Iraq blunder. Had the US remained focused on Afghanistan perhaps Al-Qaeda would have been crushed by now.
Khorji, why do you call the US Zionist? The US supports Israel but is not a stooge of Zionists. The US had almost no relationship with Israel until after the 1967 war. When Israel was attacked in 48' by half a dozen Arab nations the US did nothing. It was the USSR which saved it by sending it arms. It was then the USSR and later France who were Israel's biggest allies/arms suppliers.