Fighting Terrorism - a more comprehensive approach

Here’s an article with a new view about fighting terrorism. How do you people feel about this approach? I think there are some things in this article that definitely need considering:

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Bali proves that America’s war on terror isn’t working

The US made the mistake of taking its eye off the main target

Jonathan Freedland
Tuesday October 15, 2002
The Guardian

The world has every right to feel angry. Not just with the perpetrators of the Saturday night massacre in Bali, but with the governments who vowed to wage a “war on terror” which would make attacks like it less likely.
Of course, no one is accusing our leaders of having a chance to prevent this act of mass murder and deliberately failing to take it. (No one, that is, except the conspiracy obsessives of radical Islamism, already spreading the word that Saturday’s bombers were US agents, seeking to justify and intervention.)

But there is much western governments promised to do after 9/11 which would at least have obstructed the path of the men who plotted evil last weekend. Washington called it a “war on terror” and, with remarkably little resistance, most of the world’s people either signed up for it or acquiesced in it. Prevention of horrors like Saturday’s was the new strategy’s primary purpose. Yet all too little of that “war” effort has actually materialised.

This new global gameplan was meant to have two core elements at least according to its British advocates. First would be a ruthless, unblinking pursuit of al-Qaida. In the pained weeks that followed the attacks on New York and Washington, citizens in the US and beyond imagined the full force of the state - its army, police and the complete battery of its secret services - deployed against the new enemy. Nothing would be allowed to distract from this goal. If that meant unholy alliances, so be it. If that meant temporarily shelving other foreign policy interests, OK: hunting down Osama bin Laden and his henchmen was to be the sole priority.

On this view, Afghanistan was merely the beginning. Uprooting the al-Qaida bases that had mushroomed there was necessary, but hardly sufficient. The whole terrifying point about al-Qaida was that it was not located in one targetable territory, neatly confined to one set of borders. Instead it had spread like a vapour to as many as 50 countries, with up to 100,000 militants ready for action. Bombing a few camps would hardly reach this enemy at all.

The only way to fight this new fire was with new fire. Since al-Qaida’s methods were not those of a conventional army, the response would have to be equally unconventional. The military analyst Martin van Creveld had warned a decade earlier of “asymmetric war” and now the world understood what he meant. He urged armies to put aside their ships and rockets, and take on the enemy on its own terrain. The soldiers of al-Qaida did not march in columns on battlefields but wore jeans, rented apartments and posed as students in Hamburg, Brixton and Florida. To win, our soldiers would have to learn a new language of combat.

Last weekend’s atrocity has only underlined the tricky, slippery nature of the new enemy. No one is even sure if Bali was an al-Qaida operation or, for that matter, whether such thing as an “al-Qaida operation” even exists. The Indonesian government says it was, noting the expertise required to trigger a series of simultaneous explosions - a knowhow only al-Qaida could possess. Others are doubtful, insisting that Bin Laden’s men tend to prefer military, political or culturally iconic targets. It is the homegrown Indonesian Jemaah Islamiyah which hits nightclubs and similar symbols of “western decadence”.

Even if it was the Jemaah group, there might still be an al-Qaida link. It could be subtle, with al-Qaida acting as an inspiration rather than as direct command. This is one more reason why al-Qaida represents such a formidable foe: it is not an organisation in the western sense at all. It may just be an animating idea, spreading fast throughout the Islamic world.

Which brings us to the second prong of the war on terror many of us thought we signed up to a year ago. This held that if al-Qaida was truly to be defeated, killing or arresting its activists would not do the trick: lopping off a head today would only make another grow tomorrow. Every counter-terrorist struggle in the world, from Algiers to Belfast, had taught the same lesson: in the end, there can be no military victory over an enemy which enjoys even a limited degree of popular support. Instead, there has to be political action. Not an attempt to compromise with the killers - Bin-Laden is hardly demanding roundtable talks - but to win over the constituency that offers them tacit backing: to drain the sea in which they swim.

Taken together, these two elements amounted to a strategy that was tough on terror, tough on the causes of terror. The west would pursue Al-Qaida operatives, even as it moved to address the grievances which made too many in the Muslim world rally to Bin-Laden’s flag.

That meant, among other things, a new alternative energy strategy, aimed eventually at weaning the west off oil. No longer would the US and others need to manipulate the Middle East just to safeguard their petrol supply. They could let the peoples of the Arab world choose their own governments for once. The US would move its troops out of Saudi Arabia, healing one of the sores Bin-Laden most likes to inflame: the presence of “infidels” on holy Muslim soil. And Washington would pick up where Clinton left off, devoting serious political muscle to the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. Genuine movement in that area would instantly rob the Islamists of one of their greatest recruiting pitches.

Who knows what impact all that might have had? We certainly don’t, because it has hardly been tried. Nor has the military component of the war on terror fared much better. Bin-Laden was allowed to vanish, along with the Taliban leader Mullah Omar, who escaped the wrath of the mightiest army in the world on board a clapped-out motorbike. The jump-suited captives at Camp X-Ray appear too low-level to have much useful to say. Nor do the US intelligence agencies inspire much confidence: they remain at war with each other while their political masters tend to hear only what they want to hear.

None of this is a surprise. For the prosecutors of the war on terror - who promised to focus like a laser beam - have let their eye wander. Like the rulers of Orwell’s 1984, our leaders have urged us to switch our hatred overnight not from Eastasia to Eurasia but from al-Qaida to Baghdad. Now we are to believe Saddam is the urgent, number one priority.

Bali has proved why that is a woeful error. A war on Iraq will win yet more backing for jihadism in the Muslim world, apparently concerning all Bin Laden’s most lurid predictions of a clash of west against Islam. A prolonged US occupation of Iraq will be the greatest provocation yet. But it will also be a distraction from the struggle we were all urged to join a year ago. Bali has proved what Clinton argued a fortnight ago: that radical Islamism remains the “most pressing” threat in the world today. Clinton gets that. The only question is, does Tony Blair? And if he does, is he telling George W Bush?

*A war on Iraq will win yet more backing for jihadism in the Muslim world, apparently concerning all Bin Laden's most lurid predictions of a clash of west against Islam. A prolonged US occupation of Iraq will be the greatest provocation yet. *

Yes, this "war on terror" is now in a sort of vicious cricle getting ever more difficult for the American's to win. With every step they take forward, they end up taking ten steps backward. If the US continue to bomb nation after nation in oursuit of terrorist, they will never win this war. They should start adopting the reccomendations put forward in this article, and they may start seeing some asting successes?

By definition a “war” is not finished until all the enemies are either dead or they surrender. War on terrorism has just begun. It will be our grandchildren who will enjoy the fruits of our efforts. It took over a third of a century (from 1910 to 1945) to get rid of Fascism and Nazism from the face of this earth. It might be a few years before Religious fanaticism is completely eradicated. Give it some time.

NYA,

Fascism and Nazism were backed by nation states so it was possible to defeat them by military means. Terrorism can be carried out by a few people roaming around footloose and fancy free.

This author puts forward the view that not only terrorism but the roots of terrorism must be fought. That's not unreasonable and it will make the job easier world wide if everybody is singing from the same sheet.

Judge, Roots of terrorism can be traced back to many self-appointed regimes and monarchies (or Nation States, as you put it), which makes the job more challenging. Until everyone renounces terror as a method to gain political objectives, it does not matter whether or not everyone is singing from the same sheet. In the history of the mankind, there has always been those who either sat on the fence or joined in the tango, and those who took the leadership. Like in the past, US will take the leadership again. In fact, it is taking it as we speak.

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Judge, Roots of terrorism can be traced back to many self-appointed regimes and monarchies (or Nation States, as you put it), which makes the job more challenging.

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Not forgetting the American's who actively financed and trained these very same terrorists not to long ago. They were even compared to the American freedom fighters as I remember?

Malik, it is good to know that you at least consider them terrorists. Well, Pakistanis supported Taliban too? Didn’t they?

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Malik, it is good to know that you at least consider them terrorists.

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I consider the American policies terroristic as well. Thats because I believe in eradicating all forms of terrorism, including that practised by the US military.

Malik are you suggesting getting rid of Fascists, Nazis and Taliban were acts of terrorism sanctioned by US Foreign Policy? Wao man. And how is Musharraf going to fare by this state of thinking? Do we consider his tactics as ‘terroristic’? or just ‘insignificant’ in terms of importance?

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Malik are you suggesting getting rid of Fascists, Nazis and Taliban were acts of terrorism sanctioned by US Foreign Policy? Wao man.

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If the Taliban are facist, then we must not forget that the United States was one of those who helped to bring it into power in the first place? Going back a bit the United States quite actively engineered the coming to facist leaders in places like Chile if you remember? As for Nazi's - well isn't Bush meeting that facist war criminal Sharon soon?

Judge:
I don’t think you’d find too much disagreement among most Americans with the concept advanced of a two prong approach in the war against terror. One prong to club to death the most visible and apparent advocates of terror with the second prong being to “drain the sea in which they swim.” In fact, you’d probably get an awful lot of people inside and outside government who believe that is American policy currently.

Of the two things cited by the author (1) developing a new alternative energy strategy to reduce dependence on Arab oil and (2) devoting serious political muscle to the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, you would probably find little opposition. The problem is that both of those things require steady long term approaches that do not have immediate short term impact. It is the “clubbing” that is most visible and effective in the short term.

To me, it is interesting that the author cites approvingly the Clinton Middle East involvement which yielded absolutely no tangible results which someone could point to as moving the peace process ahead. The second Intifada started while Clinton was in power, all peace negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians ended while Clinton was in office and Sharon was elected to lead the Israeli government while Clinton was in office. Every time the Bush Administration has started investing political capital into the Middle East, it gets undercut by events on the ground.

It is unfortunate that today’s television generation believes and expects that all problems can and should be addressed and resolved within a two-hour window of prime time. In my eyes, both prongs of the war on terror that the author speaks of will last decades not days. Incremental progress on both fronts will need to be judged over the time span of years not months. Thus, the biggest danger to victory would be the lack of attention and resolve and lack of a long term commitment by the people’s of the world to sustain the two prong attack for as long as it takes. Time is the terrorists only real weapon and hope. Unfortunately, many left wing journalists, appeasers, and nay sayers actually advance the cause and prospects of the terrorist by trying to define successes and/or failures in short incremental time frames. To the extent they can get the public to accept their definition of success/failure, they have a tendency to undermine the resolve necessary to carry this fight on over the long term.

Just adding another article - please no one get angry, title is a bit provocative but article’s contents are, IMHO, well-balanced:

America’s obsession with Iraq leaves others free to kill - Bali’s victims are testament to Bush’s flawed war on terror
Richard Norton-Taylor, The Guardian, 15 October 2002

This is what the leave-Saddam-alone camp has turned to? Seems to me that they are grasping at air without any luck.

Sorry, ok, you don’t have to agree with it if you don’t want to. :flower1: Just posted it as an interesting (IMO) article, but of course everyone has their own best criterion to judge the accuracy of something.

Nadia, please point out the/a good point(s) in this article (not being sarcastic). Perhapes I'm missing something. I found this article hard to swallon, it's as if the author blames the U.S. indirectly for this attack. Thank you.

>>please point out the/a good point(s) in this article...<<
Alright the following are some good points but please don't get mad; who knows who is accurate and who is not, these are just my opinions and i come here with my own personal baggage of (wrong) biases and opinions...formed by all the environments i have been exposed to.

Firstly, IMHO, Taylor is not blaming the "US" for the attack in Bali; he is blaming (what he perceives as) misguided beliefs that have led many countries (not just the US) to ignore the real sources of terrorism. There is a huge difference between the latter, and between blaming the US.

He quite accurately states that al Qaeeda does not find support "among Palestinians, a generally secular people; and certainly not in Baghdad, home of the most secular country in the Middle East, Israel included." If Iraq must be targeted, then that is all well and good - but do not claim that it is under the umbrella of the war on 'terrorism.' The webs of affiliations between al Qaeeda and Afghanistan/Syria/Libya/Sudan, have yet to manifest themselves in Iraq - the latter's hand in 9-11 has yet to be proven tangibly. Taylor's beef is that the resources which could have been utilized towards thwarting the activities of al Qaeeda (activities such as the recent attack in Bali), are now being diverted towards an essentially lost cause vis-a-vis Iraq. In fact, on the contrary, Bush's beating of war drums against Iraq will further recruit more towards anti-American sentiments and actions.

The author is not blaming the US for what occurred in Bali; it is only to defend the inhabitants of the former - from future terrorist attacks inside the US or against American embassies abroad - that Taylor makes the point that the billions of dollars being poured into intelligence agencies could be more effectively and successfully utilized elsewhere. Focusing on one issue, Iraq - which is not even included in the al Qaeeda web - distracts and misguides those whose work would yield more results had they been allowed to focus on the real sources of terrorism. That's not a justification for what occurred in Bali. That is only a reasonable method for preventing more Bali-like attacks.

Sincere apologies for posting again.

myvoice,

The clubbing approach is only effective in getting rid of regimes which have outlived their usefulness. This does not really have the effect of "draining the sea" in which terrorist swim. In fact it most likely will make the sea larger.

I think what these commentators are suggesting is that some of the legitemate grievances need to be addressed as well (as was promised after Sep 11), but all we have seen so far is empty rhetric and a one-sided application of the war on terror. How about clubbing some of those Israeli settlements zealously guarded by Ariel Sharon, a man widely regarded as having engineered a massacre of civilians in Sabra and Shatila?

Judge:
I don’t think you and I have a disagreement on the big principles. I agree that “draining the sea” involves addressing the “legitimate” grievances of people in various regions. Where I quarrel with the commentators is that they seem to think this “draining” is something that has a short term horizon. May I remind you that we are only about 1 year into this war on terror. The draining process will take decades and the tangible results will not really be seen until the next generation reaches an age of majority. The club is necessary to smash the terror infrastructure that is already in existence.

I think where you and I probably disagree is in identifying which target to smash with the club and in what grievances we individually choose to view as “legitimate” versus those we believe are “illegitimate.” Further, I agree with my government that clubbing what already exists takes precedence over the longer term things that will help drain the sea of future terrorists. You probably disagree with that prioritization. Maybe if you were the one with the target painted on his back and the death/murder warrant sworn out against him, you would prioritize things differently.