Fighters 'snatch Pakistan troops' (merged)

BBC called them fighters when they kidnap Pakistani troops??

and they will call them terrorists whey they kills British troops.

so what do u call them?? freedom fighters or terrorist??

which religion they are following?? Is ISLAM really in danger.

why a muslim killing another muslim?? who is doing jihad?? against whom??

what is the motive behind kidnapping of these soldiers??

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Yep, you got the definition alright!

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:eek: Over 100 Pakistani Troops missing

wtf is the Army doing?

How can they capture 100 Soldiers?

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Now its your turn to feel the pain…Now what would you call ppl who kill innocent kashmiri population…Kashmiri freedom fighters or Kashmiri terrorists ?

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How can 300 soldiers just surrender?

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Pakistani terrorist........................aur kya??

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Thank God. Soldiers are found

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070830/wl_sthasia_afp/pakistanafghanistan;_ylt=AoVX1ayX5rTG7ixFBjpSYZtvaA8F

ISLAMABAD (AFP) - About 100 Pakistani soldiers missing and fear kidnapped by militants in a tribal zone bordering Afghanistan have been found safe, a military spokesman said Thursday.

A convoy transporting the soldiers in rugged South Waziristan district was sheltering from bad weather in a valley, the spokesman told AFP.

“We hope they will return to their camp tomorrow morning, there is no suggestion of kidnapping or fighting,” Major General Waheed Arshad said.

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Kashmiri Freedom fighters with collateral damage :snooty:

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more of a pak affairs issue. moved

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indian military and police? :confused:

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I read this in the morning… Dawn is saying 25- voer 100 kidnapped…

But to ADD TO THE CONFUSION, THERE IS THIS from Geo… Security men were protected by Mahsud tribe due to a bridge being out??? Bizarre.

Security men protected by Mahsud tribes : Saleh Shah
WANA: Senator Maulana Saleh Shah of South Waziristan said that about 150 soldiers, included in two contingents of the security forces going from Wana and Shakai to Ladha have been stopped due to damaged bridge on the way and the Mahsud tribes have provided them protection.

Senator Saleh Shah told Geo news that the Mahsud tribes have provided protection to about 150 security personnel in the area consists of wide forests.

He said that there were misunderstandings due to closure of the road at the damaged bridge in Sarwangai and the security men were not kidnapped or made hostage.

Still not sure how the BBC got the 300 number? How the heck can 300 armed men be kidnapped?

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What are you going on about..!?!? :rolleyes:

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If this is true - it could mean that the soldiers do not want to fight against another fellow muslim, and surrendered rather than kill each other.

This could weaken the Army's whole operations against the terrorists.

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^Its all a big confusion right now... Doesnt make any sense...
Soldiers have fought these people in the past so...

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I think I heard somebody from the pak army was beheaded........If that's true, I don't think the army will be taking it easy with fighters/terrorist ?

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^Good point too.

I do agree with PP1 overall, it's all quite confusing, atleast so far. First they said they had disappeared, then it was cover from the elements as they couldn't pass through cause of a collapsed bridge, and then kidnapped d by militants and finally in protection of tribals...all doesnt make sense...

A 100 strong armed convoy on duty in turbulent areas shouldnt be kidnapped that way...neither should it disappear for a few hours; even a single military patrolling vehicle has a wireless on it...and then why wouldn't the local command be aware of a collapsed bridge? It's not a minor thing to ignore for local troop command and they usually have all latest info on weather as well...
Lets see whats revealed if anything at all later...

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Problem is that the army itself does not have a clear mandate. Are they their to make deals or to fight terrorists? Add to that lack of proper equipment and training needed for this kind of war.

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Legacy of 1971 90,000 POWs is still fresh in the army.

http://www.dawn.com/2007/09/01/top1.htm
Govt pushes for talks to get troops freed: ‘Soldiers surrendered without firing a shot’

By Alamgir Bhittani

TANK, Aug 31: With the government appearing in disarray over the seizure of more than 150 soldiers in the restive South Waziristan tribal agency, militants on Friday seized in the Frontier Region’s Jandola area four vehicles along with five drivers. The vehicles were carrying rations for security forces.

Though the exact number of missing soldiers was yet to be confirmed, security officials put the number at 156.

However, tribal sources claimed that the number of security personnel held hostage was about 205, including 105 regular troops and 100 personnel of the Frontier Corps. A colonel, three majors and some captains were among the personnel seized by militants.

A jirga comprising parliamentarians and 35 Mehsud tribal elders left Wana for Laddah on Friday for talks with militants after meeting Political Agent Hussainzada Khan in Wana. Mr Khan along with Senator Salih Shah had rushed to Wana in a military helicopter to initiate the dialogue.

Political authorities, meanwhile, detained 20 Mehsud tribesmen in Jandola under the territorial responsibility clause of the Frontier Crimes Regulations to mount pressure on militants to free the security personnel.

Witnesses said the political authorities had initially apprehended 200 tribesmen from a passenger van at Kawar checkpoint near Mianja Fort but later took only 20 of them into custody.

A tribal elder claimed that only 20 militants were able to take hostage over 200 soldiers, 129 of whom were fully armed.

“It is difficult to believe that 200 soldiers surrendered,” he said while talking to Dawn. He said the administration had detained innocent people who were in fact fleeing the area for fear of militants.

Local people said the weather conditions were normal in the region and the government claims that the soldiers were stuck in the area due to bad weather was not correct.

Security experts believe that the kidnapping of such a large number of soldiers would affect the morale of security forces operating in the tribal region.

“So many security personnel getting captured without firing a shot affects the image of our forces in the country and also sends a negative signal to the international community,” a security analyst in Peshawar remarked.

The troops, it may be mentioned, were captured when a convoy going from Wana to its base in Laddah was intercepted in the Momi Karam area.

Sources said the militants had blocked the road and ordered troops to lay down their arms and surrender communication equipment. After disarming them, the militants divided the soldiers into small groups and took them to unknown places.

Director-General Inter Services Public Relation Maj-Gen Waheed Arshad avoided saying that the troops had been kidnapped. “Soldiers are with the local tribesmen somewhere in Laddah area. It cannot be termed as kidnapping,” he told Dawn.

He claimed that there had been some misunderstanding about the movement of troops in the area and a jirga had taken initiatives to bring the soldiers back to camp.

On Thursday, he had said that the soldiers had been stranded somewhere in the area due to inclement weather.

According to late-night reports, the jirga had reached Laddah and was likely to hold meetings with the militants on Saturday morning. —Staff correspondent Zulfiqar Ali contributed to the report

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Either these troops are cowards or traitors. Both ways, they need to be court martialled after rescue. The officers in charge need to be shot. Armed forces highest traditions require them to go down fighting - not surrender to an inferior force.

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^This is just giving confidence to these tribal miltant scum... Govt should give them a warning and then go in with gun blazing if they dont listen. No more beating around the bush... If your there to fight, then fight... If your there for cosmetic purposes, then atleast dont embarass the country..