Whatsup with them? Why there are always fuming?
They gotta a stick up their @$$
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Hmmm, pretty good chance I know who you are multi of.
@aqua70 it’s not me weirdo lmao
Because you exist.
I saw this today and it had me rolling…Thought I’d share this with ya’ll in this very appropriate thread.
Some thing [USER=“279321”]third string[/USER] and his pals would enjoy.
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^That’s depressing 
Oh mannn 
This is so true and sums up today’s society. It’s surprising that you posted this as a woman loool, you’re one of the good ones illimunati.
True!
Equal rights come with equal responsibilities…
First someone find me a agreeable definition of feminism. And by that I mean one on which even feminists would agree
Does the chat room still have a popcorn machine
@SID_NY Oxford Dictionary defines it as:
The advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.
-A fairly broad concept which is often interpreted in many different ways.
What feminism does NOT mean:
- that women are superior
-that someone has negative views of men
-the belief that everyone should be the same
Below is a piece Yasmin Mogahed wrote on females leading prayer, although not directly related to the topic - a good read.
Noting there are women who want to work because it brings them joy and fulfillment and are not pressured to do so because of ‘financial obligations’. I find her thoughts quite interesting especially how she tied religion into the mix.
*On March 18, 2005, Amina Wadud led the first female-led jum`ah (Friday) prayer. On that day, women took a huge step towards being more like men. But did we come closer to actualizing our God-given liberation?
I don?t think so.
What we so often forget is that God has honored the woman by giving her value in relation to God?not in relation to men. But as Western feminism erases God from the scene, there is no standard left?except men. As a result, the Western feminist is forced to find her value in relation to a man. And in so doing, she has accepted a faulty assumption. She has accepted that man is the standard, and thus a woman can never be a full human being until she becomes just like a man.
When a man cut his hair short, she wanted to cut her hair short. When a man joined the army, she wanted to join the army. She wanted these things for no other reason than because the ?standard? had it.
What she didn?t recognize was that God dignifies both men and women in their distinctiveness ? not their sameness. And on March 18, Muslim women made the very same mistake.
For 1400 years there has been a consensus of the scholars that men are to lead prayer. As a Muslim woman, why does this matter? The one who leads prayer is not spiritually superior in any way. Something is not better just because a man does it. And leading prayer is not better, just because it?s leading. Had it been the role of women or had it been more divine, why wouldn?t the Prophet ﷺ have asked Ayesha or Khadija, or Fatima?the greatest women of all time?to lead? These women were promised heaven?and yet they never led prayer.
But now, for the first time in 1400 years, we look at a man leading prayer and we think, ?That?s not fair.? We think so although God has given no special privilege to the one who leads. The imam is no higher in the eyes of God than the one who prays behind.
On the other hand, only a woman can be a mother. And God has given special privilege to a mother. The Prophet ﷺ taught us that heaven lies at the feet of mothers. But no matter what a man does he can never be a mother. So why is that not unfair?
When asked, ?Who is most deserving of our kind treatment?? the Prophet ﷺ replied, ?Your mother? three times before saying ?your father? only once. Is that sexist? No matter what a man does he will never be able to have the status of a mother.
And yet, even when God honors us with something uniquely feminine, we are too busy trying to find our worth in reference to men to value it?or even notice. We, too, have accepted men as the standard; so anything uniquely feminine is, by definition, inferior. Being sensitive is an insult, becoming a mother?a degradation. In the battle between stoic rationality (considered masculine) and selfless compassion (considered feminine), rationality reigns supreme.
As soon as we accept that everything a man has and does is better, all that follows is a knee-jerk reaction: if men have it, we want it too. If men pray in the front rows, we assume this is better, so we want to pray in the front rows too. If men lead prayer, we assume the imam is closer to God, so we want to lead prayer too. Somewhere along the line we?ve accepted the notion that having a position of worldly leadership is some indication of one?s position with God.
A Muslim woman does not need to degrade herself in this way. She has God as a standard. She has God to give her value; she doesn?t need a man.
In fact, in our crusade to follow men, we as women never even stopped to examine the possibility that what we have is better for us. In some cases we even gave up what was higher only to be like men.
Fifty years ago, society told us that men were superior because they left the home to work in factories. We were mothers. And yet, we were told that it was women?s liberation to abandon the raising of another human being in order to work on a machine. We accepted that working in a factory was superior to raising the foundation of society?just because a man did it.
Then, after working, we were expected to be superhuman?the perfect mother, the perfect wife, the perfect homemaker?and have the perfect career. And while there is nothing wrong, by definition, with a woman having a career, we soon came to realize what we had sacrificed by blindly mimicking men. We watched as our children became strangers and soon recognized the privilege we?d given up.
And so only now?given the choice?women in the West are choosing to stay home to raise their children. According to the United States Department of Agriculture, only 31 percent of mothers with babies, and 18 percent of mothers with two or more children, are working full-time. And of those working mothers, a survey conducted by Parenting Magazine in 2000, found that 93% of them say they would rather be at home with their kids, but are compelled to work due to ?financial obligations.? These ?obligations? are imposed on women by the gender sameness of the modern West, and removed from women by the gender distinctiveness of Islam.
It took women in the West almost a century of experimentation to realize a privilege given to Muslim women 1400 years ago.
Given my privilege as a woman, I only degrade myself by trying to be something I?m not ? and in all honesty ? don?t want to be: a man. As women, we will never reach true liberation until we stop trying to mimic men, and value the beauty in our own God-given distinctiveness.
If given a choice between stoic justice and compassion, I choose compassion. And if given a choice between worldly leadership and heaven at my feet?I choose heaven.*
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Feminism is a political movement and a set of theories. Full offense, but a serious discussion of a topic like this goes far beyond what most of you can handle. It really isn’t a surprise that a movement dedicated to (basically) trying to uplift women’s place in society is going to have different branches on what it focuses on and how it wants to go about it (i.e. radical feminism v. liberal feminism v. marxist feminism v. womanism ..etc. There is even “conservative feminism” which is hilarious b/c feminism is historically a left wing movement but whatever).
@Illuminate so here is the deal that bothers me the most is to see many cherry pick from Islam and Feminism to suite their interest. I have seen many females take from Islam that they dont have to work, do house work or contribute financially but in Islam a man can marry 4, say three talak and divorce and does not have to pay alimony and gets custody of children after age 7 and requires obedience during marriage. Now the same females use feminism to not be obedient and want alimony support payments and man arrested for abuse and child custody and many times engage in nasty fake allegations. I am for feminism but feel that you cant mix religion with modern rights movement and ride on two horses at the same time.
May be sheroo(HSY) type personality… :cobra:
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