There was a comment by sweetpie that female insecurity is based on the fact that they are left to fend for themselves while men are babied all their lives. Honestly this feminist lesbo bull**** doesnt cut the mustard.
Men are just as insecure as women, well actually less. But female insecurity is not the fault of men. Women from all walks of life are insecure. I actually have an indian friend that is more secure than this swiss german friend. It is not applied to culture or the fault of our male dominated society (which actually isnt male dominated, but that is a seperate story).
Is it inbreed? Is it genetic? I dont know. But i was wondering why you females think that you are insecure to varying degrees. I aint saying you all confidenceless, spineless airheads. But you are insecure about something or the other. Can someone explain why?
Insecurity is worse at a younger age, as you get older it gets better. I can say that about myself, Im so much more confident and care very little about what others think of me. Self-esteem is extremely important and if a girl is put down even slightly, it can affect her in a big way. So one has to learn to overcome criticism, and that takes time. You have to love yourself, my mum always tells me that.
Ok so its because they are dependent on men? That again i honestly believe is an excuse. You have so many working women in the west. They are just as insecure. Some would say even more. Take one of the females at work, she is like 45, she has fling after fling with men. But keeps complaining that she doesnt have a man in her life. Common knowledge around the work place is that she knows her stuff but extremely lacking in self-confidence.
Now this is a woman who is working for the best NGO in International Trade. Lectures at the likes of HEI and LSE. Yet she is just as insecure as any desi female. This isnt the case of a male dominated society or what not. She is Swiss.
Agreed Kitty kat. But why are females so insecure. What is the reason. Honestly if the person aint important to you. Why should you give a damn what their opinion is? Also why the lack of confidence in what you can do? Women arent put down all the time about what they do. Parents dont do that. So why the low-self-confidence?
Cooldude, i like to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Waisey reasons can vary from woman to woman as well, upon circustances and environment they grow and live in could be a factor too. There is no specific reason, I think there can be several but major one remains the dependency on men particularly in our society because earning money doesn't mean you don't depend on tmen no more.
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There was a comment by sweetpie that female insecurity is based on the fact that they are left to fend for themselves while men are babied all their lives. Honestly this feminist lesbo bull*** doesnt cut the mustard.
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I agree. Some would argue that in the country like the USA, women are babied and pampered all their lives.
True, and no my original comment was not meant to be a “feminist” one, sorry to disappoint. It was just my two cents on the issue, nothing more. But CM, you’re right. There are plenty of women (ESPECIALLY in the West, I will argue) that are much more insecure than their female counterparts of other cultures. I can cite many examples from my own workplace as some of you did. Security/insecurity can come from many reasons and mind you, it certainly isn’t inbred or hereditary which brings us to the only other option which is that it is acquired through our experiences as we go through life.
When we think of insecurity, we picture some deranged woman biting her fingers off, nervous as heck, holding her breath to make a move regarding taking any action/decision in life, but do you realize that some of the most successful and/or beautiful people (ex. in the modeling/acting business, etc.) are more insecure than we can ever imagine?
Another thing, I must agree with Catty when she said that as we grow older, we become more secure in ourselves and really don’t care what others have to say or think about us. We tend not to live in fear of others as much because we have outgrown fears of our parents faced while growing up. We become educated, take good careers, stand up on our own two feet and roll with the punches, so to speak. At the end of the day, it is our self-confidence and inner strength (aside from matter of the heart which can arguable through a monkey wrench in this whole deal) that make us who we are.
I agree that insecurity affects all cultures, not just those in the West.
LI - girls in the USA are babied and pampered all of their lives???? I was raised in the US and have held a job since I was fifteen. Worked all through college, and only attended college based on an academic scholarship. I do not feel pampered. So let's try to avoid those stereotypical US female comments -
Perhaps females simply feel more freedom to talk about their insecurities. Or perhaps things will only truly be equal when a woman can walk down the street with a receding hairline, with her belly hanging over her jeans, wearing a five year old ratty T-shirt and STILL think she looks goooooooddddd!;)
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LI - girls in the USA are babied and pampered all of their lives???? I was raised in the US and have held a job since I was fifteen. Worked all through college, and only attended college based on an academic scholarship. I do not feel pampered. So let's try to avoid those stereotypical US female comments -
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Absolutely NOT!
Working hard for your education doesn't discount the existence of a social setup that encourages and supports women in every walk of life; from discrimination laws to disproportionate endowments for sports program on college campuses. Compare the life of an average American female to one in Pakistan/India/Bangladesh etc. and you will see stark differences.
Folks, let's not turn this into a battle of the sexes. I hate it when a perfectly informative discussion goes that route.
With all this talk about insecurity, let me tell you about this one lady at work (secretary, 36, single, attractive blonde) who is always hitting on men within the company that have power positions. Makes me sick to my stomach to see a woman lower herself to that level. I mean, if she flirted with one or two men, fine, but she comes across being pretty blatantly "interested" in all men in the executive management, and rumors have much more to offer on that front (but we won't go there!). In any event, it's more or less a practical joke behind her back nowadays at work regarding the moves she puts on to attract men. One guy, the VP of Purchasing, who I'm friendly with, constantly remarks about her desperate efforts with her extra short skirts and cleavage-revealing blouses. She has made fruitless advances towards even him and the guy is married with two kids! I wish women (especially western) had a sense of dignity and respect for themselves because after all, what sense of accomplishment would one feel if you're merely dating or married to money? Why not rise to the top yourself by making something worthwhile of yourself and proving how capable you are of achievement? Anything less is a shame.
^What “gist” of your previous post am I supposedly twisting? Geez!
Also, insecurity (this time, in men) is when they hop from bed to bed, screwing everything that walks and talks without a care in the world, as if it’s an addiction. Trust me, you’d be shocked at how many such lowlives are out there with no self-esteem whatsoever.
Sweetie, you are absolutely right. I can not stand when perfectly capable women throw themselves at men as though they have no respect for themselves at all. Men do it, too. Sleep around with women as if to try to prove that they are more of a man.
When I first went to college, I was shocked at the number of girls in the dorm who went out night after night with different guys (an all girls dorm - but don't worry, LI, there was one for the boys, too;)) There was one girl right down the hall who used to cry to me that all the boys used her - I finally had to be blunt with her and say, no, you ALLOW yourself to be used. Even though I felt bad for her, I do not understand this type of behavior at all.
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When I first went to college, I was shocked at the number of girls in the dorm who went out night after night with different guys (an all girls dorm - but don't worry, LI, there was one for the boys, too;)) ...
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Firstly LK would fall for the hotest guy around and hand over all power to him She has such a good heart And thanks for clarifying it to Fanty here. She is a little, well really slow
But can someone please explain to me why you are insecure? I mean guys are insecure. But women honestly take the case. I am totally clueless on this. You guys got any ideas?
If u earn yourself doesn’t mean u don’t depend on men anymore 
And thanks for clarifying it to Fanty here. She is a little, well really slow