Fauzia Kasuri joining PMLN

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On other hand, I believe its people like FK who don't recognize any authority or leadership besides Imran and thats not really a fault of PTI junior leadership that they cannot rival Imran's personal credentials. But they still have to start from somewhere.

The second tier PTI may lack leadership for now but they still followed a procedure, whatever the outcome that became the cause of FK's grievance was an outcome of a clearly defined system. Leadership comes and goes but the system remains. Imran has made all the right attempts to institutionalized the party with set form of systems but its up to the party members and supporters to start taking those systems seriously.

PTI's internal party structure still is still quite ahead its time, they just need time and bit more practice in problem solving to mature the system they already have in place.

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i must admit, out of all this mess, one good message that goes out is that party policy will be followed throughout and rules will not be bent for any individual, no matter how old his/her allegiance with the party. this is good, but the price PTI is paying for this message is not justifiable

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Had Shireen Mazari not been taken back. :P

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^ haha.

Cat fight between SM & FK has harmed PTI to no end.

btw PTI leadership & workers are at FK's residence. Scenes reminiscent of JH leaving PMLN. But somehow I think FK will not leave.

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ok time to "victimize" bad SM, lolz
she has been served show cause notice once for saying somethin on foreign policy contradicting to PTI policy
then she left party as protest against IK/JT's
then she came back to PTI (of course there must be guarantee of some sort for her to join again)
then she tweeted from IK's twitter handle (according to people on this forum and general PTI workers) praising herself to make FK shut up.

is this enough for FK to start acting the way she has been? i think no

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Finally Fauzia Kasoori Resigns

So called Mother of PTI dithed party for one freaking seat

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Expect Media to discuss this issue and bash PTI for one week at least while MNS celebrates honeymoon with Kamran Khan & Iftikhar.

sad day for PTI.

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Javed Hashmi and SMQ have been very disappointing in this whole episode. Not a word on the issue as they are both just concerned about what's going on in the National Assembly.

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Aedi ae Motherof PTI hundi tay ek seat di khatir na chadti seat

Seriously she really disappointed all of us Insafians

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Bye bye PTI: Fauzia Kasuri quits

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probably they were mature enough not to indulge in public mud-sliding on twitter?

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We should know that FK knows top PTI leadership more than you and me, so her decision means something.

PTI to ignore FK is really sad day for party. Shireen Mazari & Fauzia Kasuri are two women figure heads of PTI who worked for PTI most and on merit should have had top position on list of women seats. But that would have happened if merit is criteria, not influences, nepotism, biases, or ‘personal like and dislike’.

To say that FK wanted to talk to Imran directly then being senior member it was her right, not privilege. But again, with leader who used women like toilet papers, I am surprised how FK could have expected direct talk after being used politically in every way and serving the purpose.

FK denouncing her American nationality was politically big decision and impressive gesture to educated Pakistanis with dreams of seeing ‘Devils becoming Angels’. Such gesture must have played big role in getting votes for PTI, as such gesture is symbol of loyalty and commitment to cause. Many voters must have got impressed by such commitment and attractive gesture by top PTI leadership (FK was considered amongst top leadership, whatever her position was within party), believing that PTI leadership are committed people willing to sacrifice anything for their cause.

But then, in the end, girls like Aliya Malik and others, who did not sacrificed anything for the party, got upper hand because of influences, nepotism, biases, or ‘personal like and dislike’ within party, and obviously, not because of merit.

I am sure that seeing partiality and violation of merit by top leadership of party in decision making posts, committed people like FK must have got disappointed and must have lost hope with the party. Hence her move.

[Actually, Fauzia Kasuri should have been herself amongst top PTI leadership with decision making power, but it seems influences, biases, nepotism and ‘personal like and dislike’ played important role in forming top leadership with decision making powers, whatever PTI says].

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I don't think Fauzia Kasuri has done anything wrong.

It's entirely natural for her to be upset and feel betrayed by the party whom she has done so much for. We can all talk about it now and say she's been immature and opportunistic but unless we are in that position we shouldn't be too quick too judge !
Bottom line is hume ache bande ki qadar nahi hoti ....

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I dont think her grievances are unfair. I just think the timing of it all is the worst possible. She should take some time off rather than come on media & reflect.

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If she had taken such decision before election she would have harmed PTI standing in election and people would start accusing her of harming the party. If she would have taken such decision months after election than her decision would have become meaningless for her as well as party.

So, I think her decision is at right time. But then, I have to admit that for some, her decision would have been unwanted, regardless of time frame.

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nobody asked her to give up her citizenship.....she made that decision of her own accord.
in fact, IMO she should have held onto that status so that she could later use it to her advantage.....foolish and emotional move on her part.

in keeping with the respect that the party members gave her as maadr-e-party, she should have acted in a much more selfless manner. she should have placed her role above and beyond that of NA seat-holders. in this manner she would have wielded much more power and influence.

the founding members should be in roles that allow them to 'groom' the coming leaders. they should be honoured to be the proverbial "kingmakers" rather than vie to be kings themselves.

why she wanted to be in a position from which she can be easily removed when she could continue to reign as queen is beyond me.......

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This Pervaiz Khattak will prove to be the Asif Zardari of PTI.

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Aap ayesa mushwara ‘Pidar-e-Parti’ ko kewn nahi daytee … that to keep himself above NA seats, gain respect, and control the party from outside? (woh tou char char seat per election lara takay kaheen say tou khancha lag jayea :))

As for merit, does anyone think that Party observed merit putting FK at number 4 on women seat?

Obviously, no one forced her to abandon American citizenship, but she felt she is more committed to party than keeping American nationality, and that was show of commitment to the cause she believed she was standing. That certainly must have attracted many voters to party.

Lagta hay, Fauzia Kasuri ko ‘Imran Khan’ kee baton aur wadoon per bharosa hou giya tha … just like many women have done on Imran words and promises.

Those who could not give justice to their own top party member, how can anyone expect that they would give justice to ordinary Pakistani?

[But then, expecting justice from those who cannot give justice to their own kids is beyond imagination anyhow, that FK should have known].

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1 was Shireen Mazari, who is certainly first on merit. #2 was Munazza Hassan, who was the women wing president of Pakistan. #3 was Ayla Malik, who was runner up. #4 was Fauzia Kasuri.

Rest of your comments about Imran, women and his kids are non-sensical.

Fauzia knew the rules all along. She could have surrendered her US nationality ages ago, and could have run in the intra party elections. She would have won by a landslide. She chose to let it be till the last moment, perhaps hoping it wont be required.

It is not Imran's job to interfere in the operations of any internal department. It he does, then out goes the concept of democracy and merit.

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Suddenly everyone is criticising PTI for being one man show. differences & conflicts happens in every party, so PTI is no different in that sense. Its not like IK is sitting up there and giving tickets away to ppl he like or not. Its a process, where the descion is taken by all members of the board. We can debate if she deserved the priority or not, but they r other senior members who also didnt got a seat. F

For me the issue has been handled poor from both parties, but its just come down to the one seat FK wanted.

If I am not mistanken, she applied for contesting in election, but had dual nat, so didnt applied on time. It was her responbilty to assure that he contested according to the constitution, so just that tells us that board gave her ticket to contest in the election, but couldnt because of her own reasons. Now she claims "mafia lobby" is operating in PTI. How stupid & immature from her.

The second point is why react after the election? She should had raised the issue when they sent the list to EC. She could had raised the issue to the board?

PTIs board could also handled the situation better. Replied her on her calls or arranged a meeting where the could have solved the matter in more mature way.

In anyway its a sad day for PTI.