A Saudi Scholar has issued an edict against a Kuwaiti singer who sang a chapter of the Holy Quran, sentencing him to death. The Kuwaitis are defending him while the singer has ran away to the US.
Singing the Quran, how serious a crime is it?
“Only two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity.” I am not quite sure of the universe…
Isn't reciting the Quran really singing anyways? You know Qirat? I mean I'd defend the guy too IF he recited the Quran without band'baja.
Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.
Love happens once . . .
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Originally posted by CocoNut:
**Isn't reciting the Quran really singing anyways? You know Qirat? I mean I'd defend the guy too IF he recited the Quran without band'baja.
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There's a diff. b/w Qirat n Singing... !!!
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Originally posted by Sadiaa:
** There's a diff. b/w Qirat n Singing... !!! they r doing the right thing by sentencing him to death... so no one else would ever do tht again**
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This, from the same person who only 4 days ago posts "ISLAM IS TRUE FREEDOM", saying that "there are very few things that Islam
has prohibited, compared to all of the good and beneficial things which we have been allowed to eat, drink, wear and participate in. Allah has permitted everything which is good and wholesome, and has forbidden only those things which would bring us harm."
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they r doing the right thing by sentencing him to death... so no one else would ever do tht again
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I take strong exception to that statement. Kindly take back your remark.
They shoot partypoopers, don't they?
alrite..maybe not sentencing him to death..but atleast he should be punished for it.. as singing is forbidden in Islam
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This, from the same person who only 4 days ago posts "ISLAM IS TRUE FREEDOM", saying that "there are very few things that Islam
has prohibited, compared to all of the good and beneficial things which we have been allowed to eat, drink, wear and participate in. Allah has permitted everything which is good and wholesome, and has forbidden only those things which would bring us harm."**
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i see nothing wrong with that statement. Would u care to comment on how u find it contradictory? Whatever is forbidden to us Muslims is for our own good.
as for singing Quran majid...like saadia said, there is a definite difference between Qirat and singing the Quran. The Quran should be recited slowly, with respect and definitely without any musical instruments. I think i watched Imam Hamza Yusuf or Yusuf Islam talk about this. Will have to find out.
~~I'm not going to ask if you just said what I think you just said because I know it's what you just said.~~DS
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Originally posted by hk:
** i see nothing wrong with that statement. Would u care to comment on how u find it contradictory? Whatever is forbidden to us Muslims is for our own good.
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One must be careful, when making an argument, to not accidentally argue for a more sinister point. For example, if you are a pro-choice believer on abortion, whatever defense you make must not also be a defense of infanticide (ie, abortion reduces the strain on the society by reducing problem children - so does infanticide).
That said, you have argued for slavery. Whatever a master tells his slave is good for him, the slave is to obey, whether or not he feels it is good or bad. The black slave on a plantation was allowed to do whatever he wanted, as long as he toiled in the fields 10 hours a day, and stayed away from contact with white men. He was free within those constraints - heck, the slave was fed and housed for his work. And by no means do we ever call that true freedom. You have argued the same - that Islam is slavery, because arbitrary rules are set down "for your own good."
It's 2 am, you are driving on a deserted road, the traffic light turns red. Are you supposed to stop even though there is no one around? Of course. Obviously it is quite all right in this particular case, but you will be breaking the law. So, are you a slave to the government? Of course you are. They set rules, which make sense to some, arbitrary or obsolete to others, but you have to obey them if you want to avoid punishment.
You seem to like pointing fingers at Islam, fact is that all governments and religions work by subduing people, enslaving them for their own good.
Enslaving is the wrong word to use. A set of rules and guidlines to follow for the benefit of yourself and other people is not being enslaved but being sensible. If Allah swt our Creator has given us rules to live by and rights to live with then it is our sensibility which chooses to follow the path which will lead to success in the long term. Our choices are influenced by our upbringing and teaching.
If we see ourselves being constrained by Islam then frankly speaking we are ignorant and cannot see the wisdom behind it's philosophy and its purpose and hence we are no better than air heads.
In regards to the kuwaiti singer, some of you may be interested in reading this.
*Kuwaiti singer returns home, denies he insulted the Quran *
KUWAIT CITY, April 3 (AFP) - Kuwait's leading pop singer Abdullah Ruwaished, condemned to death by a Saudi religious edict last week, returned to Kuwait Tuesday from the US and strongly denied he had insulted Islam's holy book, the Quran.
"I have never even thought of insulting the holy Quran. I am amazed at the Fatwa that was issued against me even before finding out the truth," Ruwaished told AFP from his home near Kuwait City which was under police protection.
The edict, issued Thursday by Saudi cleric Hmoud bin Shuaibi, accused Ruwaished of insulting the Quran, by turning one of its chapters into a song.
But Ruwaished, who has been the leading singer in Kuwait for two decades, said the controversial song was made in 1996 and was broadcast over state-run radio and TV stations many times.
"It does not include any verse from the holy Koran. It's a popular poem written by a Kuwaiti poet several years ago," a relaxed Ruwaished said.
Several clerics, representing Kuwait's leading Islamic groups have spoken in Ruwaished's defence, saying that the "fatwa is illegal" because it was not issued by the concerned authorities.
Ruwaished, 40, left the emirate for the United States on Friday. He said his visit was scheduled before he learnt of the fatwa.
Earlier this year, organisers of the Hala February shopping festival, bowed to pressure by Islamic MPs and banned popular Lebanese singer Aasi al-Hellani over accusations that he had sung verses from the holy Quran.
Source: RAIN (Research and Information Network)
hmmmm ali azmat is next?
I remember listening to this beautiful rendition of the 99 names of Allah done by an egyptian singer which PTV used to broadcast, and perhaps still does. And mind u, egypt is home to more fatwas than anywhere else.
This edict is now merely pushing it a bit too much.
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*hmmmm ali azmat is next? *
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He should be.
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Originally posted by Sadiaa:
** There's a diff. b/w Qirat n Singing... !!!
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han sahi kaha aap nai qirat aur singing main kafi farq hai , uss lanti nai QURAN kay sath instruments ko mix kia ho ga , jo kissi bhi tarha jaez nahi hai , sahaba , taba tabieen kay daor main kabhi aisa nahi hoa kay QURAN kay quran ko gaya gia ho , shariat ki roh say uss singer ka yeh amal kissi tarha bhi sahi nai hai , he must bhi sentenced to death , takay doosroon ko ibrat ho , ager issay na roka gia to aur logoon ki haosla afzai ho gi , aur iss tarha islam aur quran ki sari duni main jag hansai ho gi , iss liay mera bhi zati khiyal yahi hai kay uss singer maloon ko kari say kari saza milni chahiay , wo kari say karo saza ka mustaheq hai , islam main iss kay liay koi riayat nahi nahi hai , any way kissi islami mulk main yeh waqea kafi sharm ka baes hai , hakoomate kuwait ko iss par proper action leina chahiay ....islam dushman taqtein waisay bhi islam ko mitanai kay darpaiy hain , alam e islam ko kissi bhi tarha iss waqey ki parda pooshi nahi karni chahiay..
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