fate of muslims

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recently ive really been gettin depressed about the fate of muslims, not a day goes by whn u dont hear hate filled news reports about muslims and how they r all terrorists and blah blah. Things just seem to be getting worst, and i believe that lif is getting harder for ordinary hard working muslims living in the west and in non- muslim countries
some co called muslims arent however helping the situation, apart 4rm those who r fanatics many muslims in the est just dnt seem to care wht they act like whn they r in public, they r loud, rude, and can be very ignorant and racist towards goray despite the fact they live in the west,
There are lots of other ppl who r not muslims who act the same, but with everything that is goin on at the moment, whn ppl see their behavious it just adds to hatred towards muslims, and ive seen it happen so many times whn im out and about.
MAyb im just rambling on or being pessimistic but i just dont knw wht out fate is gonna b in the west now, we myt eventually have to pack up and leave and head back to the motherland, and it just takes 1 incident as in an attac to change every1s attitudes to send us packing.

I live in glasgow and after the airport attack, it was scary , a day or 2 after the attack my mum and I were attending a pakistani wedding as we headed towards the hotel, 2 men well suited and booted chased us shouting racist abuse and i was convinced they had knives in their hands, we didnt report the incident since thr were so many incidents like that following the days after the attacks that police cud not have dun anything, I refused the leave teh house after that 4 abt a week.
Of course not every gora was going to do that, but it was just teh dirty looks and ppls attitude, i suppose u cud just ignore but it really messes with your head,
Im always polite to ppl, have always tried to do my bit 4 society etc so its frustrating that teh actions of sum 1 else effects you rlove in that way
Sumtimes i feel so annoyed at god 4 this i dont knw why, and i knw its wrong, i pray alot but it just doesnt give me peace regrading this matter, i just feel like the muslims are getting all the wrath of god’s fury and the rest just get away with whtever they feel like doin :frowning: :frowning:
I just dont knw hwt gonna happen to us, sorry this was a long post and may seem like a rant i just felt i needed to get this off my chest :frowning: :frowning:

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All brown people like Indian's Bangladeshi's,Pakistani's & Arabs - are going through the same. The poor Sikhs are the worst off, since many relate their turbans to the Al quida (sp) leaders.

Even I have been taunted and given cold stares - learn to smile and walk away.

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yeah i agree every1 who is brown is being targetted, but i dunno im just looking at the long term situation, it looks grim :( :(

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I dont know...my hubby is pakistani and my boys have those "camel eyes". And we have experienced such warm welcomes. We actually just came back from our big camping/road trip - we drove 6300 miles!!! across the country (USA) and had the time of our lives. Warm welcomes most everywhere we went and the only time it was NOT a warm welcome was because we had little ones. It seems to me that a good part of it is what you look like and how you act...I mean there ARE nice black kids out there who dress like "gangstas" and talk ebonics and street rap. WHen I see those, I cross the street to the other side yeah? But I'm sure at least some of them are nice kids. Perception and first impressions mean so much.

I am upset :cryb:
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I can relate to that tweety_pie.

I feel sick with stress, seriously I'm even depressed in my sleep now, there's never a day when I don't wake up without that gut feeling. It's horrible when you just want to be normal like everyone else and can't...

At work sometimes I'll be sat with white colleagues and they'll bring up conversations about terrorism, they'll say stuff like "well you can't tell who's a terrorist, they could be sat in our midst and we wouldn't know", indicating towards me... I've had people I worked with for months who I thought were decent mutter hateful things to each other when I walked past after 7/7 happened...

Some of the things they say are so hateful and ignorant it's unreal, I started off by laughing them off, I'm quite a silly light-hearted guy (or was) and don't like to take things seriously so I'd turn the nasty things they said into a joke, but then I realised they were laughing at me not with me..

It's not just the future of Muslims in the West that scares me, I'm tired now, I don't want to live in the West anymore, Inshaa Allaah we're moving back home in a few months, I want to be amongst my own people in my country, I don't care for materail posessions, I don't care if we're a poor country but what scares me is even if I go back home these people wont leave us, every country they've invaded so far they've turned it into a hellhole, now they have their eyes on Pakistan and let me tell you that terrorists' (malnutritioned, uneducated goat-herds living in caves) are not their reason, they're after our nuclear weapons and establishing a foothold in a strategically important area like Pakistan is important to them because of the imperlialistic bstrds that they are.

If they don't want us to live in their country most Pakis in this country would gladly go back but would they leave us in peace there?

I feel so angry, depressed, helpless, frustrated..

I know if I committed myself to Islam properly I'd get the strength to cope, I always do and nothing matters when I'm into Islam but the initial effort and giving up so many things seems so hard, I know it will be worth it and Allaah unveils so many things to me when I'm religious, it's like being in a different world but it's so hard renouncing my lifestyle, I'm torn between two different sides, I know I'll have to take my pick soon and it will be Islam because I love Allaah more than anything...

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yup if you and your hubby were both brown and he had a beard and you had a hijab, you may be treated differently by some.

you are right though that apperances and actions do impact reactions and treatment. But you could be the nicest, most well mannered, well spoken and polite person to a bigot, but it woud not mean that they would necessarily treat you any better.

But I agree for the most part its not a huge issue, its only the redneck moron types who have issues, I mean their bigotry now just has an excuse, what can you say.

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as far as people muttering hateful things, why dont you report them to HR, record them sometime for proof.

as far as remarks, anytime one of my colleagues asks if I am making a bomb, I say of course not, quickly followed by, hey whats your home address again..

yeah I have some pals who kid around, I was just talking to one today about this movie paradise lost and he told me that renting it I probably ended up in FBI watch list, and I replied, well they will have duplicate records because over the weekend I also bought meat from a halal shop. and to stop annoying me or I will start throwing rocks at him.

guy is not bigoted, sometimes his jokes are a little politically incorrect but he is a pal and i can respond in kind.

now if he was a real bigot, i would have no problem dragging his ass to HR.

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mayb its just the rednecks in the states who have a issude, but in the UK ppl of all classes seem to have an issue :( :(

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well rednecks can be in all classes as well. i meant that as a frame of mind not as a professional designation u know.

we have our parrhaly likhay jahil, they have their parrhay likhay jahil (i.e. educated yet ignorant folks- translation to help FBI save a few bucks translating my post :D)

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i openly admit to racist people about pakistan creating the taliban, selling nuke secrets to north korea, iran, libya, storing nukes in saudi for israel, project streategic depth and how pakistan is doing all things iraq was blamed for. oh yeah and we'll nuke anyone that wants it. works well

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lol, im wish i cud b as light hearted as u,im gettin so stressed, god help me :( :(

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admittedly i do have the luxury of 30,000 pakis in my city

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The problem is they’re subtle with it, I know it’s directed at me but if I report to the director that they were muttering stuff whilst glaring at me it would sound like I’m just being paranoid, they’re cunning..

On a few occasions it’s been more frank I’ve had people stop me in the corridor to give me directions to Manchester Airport in jest of course only they’re not really joking, I’ve had them complain about more and more bloody onion domed Mosques popping up everywhere spoiling their skylines, in a humorous tone of course …

Sure I have mates who makes pc-incorrect jokes, that's different, they sometimes even say truly ignorant things like "Muslim women should be forced to wear western clothes and eventually they'll be comfortable with them", it's fine coming from them because they're only young but when grown up men from other departments who don't even know me say things like that their only motivation is hatred.

Maybe I’m being oversensitive, I don’t know… I use to be full of energy and wanted to correct peoples misunderstandings but I’m tired of it now, it’s everywhere, it’s a hopeless cause, I just find myself getting angrier and more hateful by the day.

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hey subtle racists are even easier to deal with, u can always pay them back in kind, and then as far as subtle goes do check with your HR policies, because their comments do not have to be directed at you for them to be in trouble.

my view is educate those who dont know, kid around with those who kid around but set limits, know your Hr policies dont cross them yourselves.

but dont take it lying down, dont get mad get even, and its either by taking a stand, or by reporting them, or makign them look like idiots.

One person I know quite publically and inappropriately asked how can I be sure that the message to Mohammad was divine, my response was, usually I dont discuss religion but its a matter of faith, one can ask how can you or I be sure that jesus was born out of immaculate conception, and even if that is true that the right party was getting the credit, but we believe that because that is what is part of faith.

he got the hint and shut up.

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