Fasting on 9th and 10th Muharram

TaZ123 · March 12, 2003, 9:27am

Does it have any basis in Quran or Hadith?

Iqbal1089 · March 12, 2003, 1:39pm

Lots of details here:

http://63.175.194.25/topics/muharram/muharram.shtml

There were a few threads posted earlier in the week about Ashura which you might also want to take a look at.

Iqbal

PakistaniAbroad · March 12, 2003, 4:28pm

Interesting quips:

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The practice of fasting on ‘Aashooraa’ was known even in the days of Jaahiliyyah, before the Prophet’s mission. It was reported that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “The people of Jaahiliyyah used to fast on that day…”
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Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came to Madeenah and saw the Jews fasting on the day of ‘Aashooraa’. He said, ‘What is this?’ They said, ‘This is a righteous day, it is the day when Allaah saved the Children of Israel from their enemies, so Moosa fasted on this day.’ He said, ‘We have more right to Moosa than you,’ so he fasted on that day and commanded [the Muslims] to fast on that day.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 1865).
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PakistaniAbroad: not quite unlike other rituals borrowed from Judaeo-Christian or pagan traditions.

As per Allah, Ramadan is the month of fasting.

ammarr · March 12, 2003, 5:04pm

Dear taz, pay no need to our munkir-e-ahadeeth members. In a hasty effort to equate muslims with jews, they forgot to read:

It was also reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to fast on ‘Aashooraa’ in Makkah, before he migrated to Madeenah. When he migrated to Madeenah, he found the Jews celebrating this day, so he asked them why, and they replied as described in the hadeeth quoted above. He commanded the Muslims to be different from the Jews, who took it as a festival, as was reported in the hadeeth of Abu Moosa (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said: “The Jews used to take the day of ‘Aashooraa’ as a festival [according to a report narrated by Muslim: the day of ‘Aashooraa’ was venerated by the Jews, who took it as a festival. According to another report also narrated by Muslim: the people of Khaybar (the Jews) used to take it as a festival and their women would wear their jewellery and symbols on that day]. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘So you [Muslims] should fast on that day.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari). Apparently the motive for commanding the Muslims to fast on this day was the desire to be different from the Jews, so that the Muslims would fast when the Jews did not, because people do not fast on a day of celebration.

(Summarized from the words of al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar – may Allaah have mercy on him – in Fath al-Baari Sharh ‘ala Saheeh al-Bukhaari).

There were a couple of good posts regarding this a couple of days ago, here they are:

http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=95311
http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95313

Hope that helps.

PakistaniAbroad · March 12, 2003, 7:56pm

ammarr bhai.. lillah yeh batayin kay were the Jews fasting on that day or celebrating??

why blame ‘munkir-e-ahadith’ for doubting contradictory statements which only confuse and divide than simplify and unite muslims.