A solid message from a moderate muslim…
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
His wife's moderate muslim too? If she is then I'd love to see all the moderate muslim women(specially Pakistanis) follwing her and doing hijab like her.
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Hijab is her choice and there are many moderate Muslims who observe hijab and many who don't. Hijab is not what makes a Muslim, Muslim. It is the character and that is what they both have emphasized. It is time that people get rid of these stereotypes and focus on the message.
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Hijab is her choice
No, hijab is the order from Allah and his messenger[peace be upon him] for every muslim man and woman.
and there are many moderate Muslims who observe hijab and many who don't.
lol......
Please define qualities of a moderate muslim and also differences among moderate muslims and muslims?
Hijab is not what makes a Muslim, Muslim. It is the character and that is what they both have emphasized.
Doing Hijab means being modest in your dressing, behaviour and thoughts. So hijab does make a muslim, muslim.
It is time that people get rid of these stereotypes and focus on the message.
Message doesn't only come from words, it also comes from the way ones presenting his/herself and the behaviour in front of people recieving the message. Imagine a woman wearing shorts and giving lecture on the life of Sahabiyat(ra). You can't pick what you like in Islam and leave what you don't like, otherwise your definition of moderate muslims will count most likely as hypocrites.
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Hijab is in Islam, not the other way round.
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
^You can make anything like that:
Salaat is in Islam, not the other way round etc. It doesn't prove that you don't need to read salaat anymore, or does it?
Farhan and his wife, have they declared themselves as moderate muslims or are we giving them titles by ourselves?
Truth hurts but the term " moderate muslim " and " extremist muslims " is created by the west, probably by Fox News.
I have a question for you and others:
Was Prophet Muhammad(SAW) a moderate muslim or an extremist muslim?
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Hareem, moderate means a person who doesn't follow any extremes. For me a woman in shorts and low necks, etc is going to extreme, I don't call it moderate. I call it extreme and that is why I always say that any kind of extremism is wrong and not the way of Islam. And I never said wearing hijab is not being modest, actually I am the one who titled it as moderate.
I still stand to what I said that Islam is not all about a head covering, head covering is in Islam but Islam is not in a head covering. I am not sure why you have started this hijabi vs non hijabi debate with me. I just said that the clip has a very strong message from people who are trying to live a moderate life which is what Islam calls for...live with moderation, it is the message of Prophet pbuh.
Rightnow you are acting no less then any Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, or whichever by making asumptions and generalizing.
It is time that we come out of our little shells and explore the world around us.
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
^You titled it as " moderate muslim ".
A muslim is a moderate human being. There is no such thing as " moderate muslim " in Islam.
I say it again, Hijab is in Islam and Islam is not in hijab but this statement doesn't remove the status of hijab(physically and in behaviour) being an obligation..
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Yes, I have titled it as moderate and I have explained why I have said moderate and I am not changing it. And I have not removed the status of Hijab in Islam by any means.
If a person is fanatic, or follows any form of extremism, I can say that the person is going towards extremism but it would be wrong of me to say that the person is not a Muslim. So, no not all Muslims are moderate human beings, if they were all moderate human beings then today Muslim nation would have been one of the most progressive nations in the world and an example of peace, harmony, and success. But sadly we are not! And it has nothing to do with west brainwashing or labeling, etc. It has to do with our characters and our actions. We are solely to blame ourselves for our failures.
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Yes, I have titled it as moderate and I have explained why I have said moderate and I am not changing it. And I have not removed the status of Hijab in Islam by any means.
If a person is fanatic, or follows any form of extremism, I can say that the person is going towards extremism but it would be wrong of me to say that the person is not a Muslim. So, no not all Muslims are moderate human beings, if they were all moderate human beings then today Muslim nation would have been one of the most progressive nations in the world and an example of peace, harmony, and success. But sadly we are not! And it has nothing to do with west brainwashing or labeling, etc. It has to do with our characters and our actions. We are solely to blame ourselves for our failures.
and who do u think you are to label any1 an extermist? just bcos a person doesnot believe in wht you believe or does not live the life you live, he/she is an extremist. you have your rules, they have theirs. if they are extermist in their views then the likes of your are not better aswell. you are an extremist in preaching your so-called moderation or moderate view of islam which simply doesnot exist.
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Either I need writing lessons to express my point more effectively or you guys need some comprehension lessons....
All I am saying is that extremism on any side of the scale is wrong. And these people are portraying a good example of trying to live a balance life on the principles of Islam and they have a very strong message which is what we need today.
Rest, I don't believe in extreme liberation or conservatism. I have said repeatedly that both are forms of extremism and something that is not recommended in Islam. And if something is wrong then it should be accepted that it is wrong. I am not preaching anything, just stating my opinion. And if it is twisted with one point of view then I guess there is nothing much I can do, after repeatedly clarifying stance on the issue.
Peace!
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Either I need writing lessons to express my point more effectively or you guys need some comprehension lessons....
All I am saying is that extremism on any side of the scale is wrong. And these people are portraying a good example of trying to live a balance life on the principles of Islam and they have a very strong message which is what we need today.
Rest, I don't believe in extreme liberation or conservatism. I have said repeatedly that both are forms of extremism and something that is not recommended in Islam. And if something is wrong then it should be accepted that it is wrong. I am not preaching anything, just stating my opinion. And if it is twisted with one point of view then I guess there is nothing much I can do, after repeatedly clarifying stance on the issue.
Peace!
Peace sister Lusi
I don't want to put any undue burden on you perhaps people have misunderstood you. However, I keep hearing you say that extremism of any kind is not Islamic.
That statement is not true ...
Unfortunately I blame it on the way the texts are translated. The middle path is often mistakenly understood as moderation.
Belief for example in One God is an extreme view ... that ... There is NONE worthy of worship except Allah (SWT). If Muslims would compromise this extreme view then we would translate the Shahadah as ... There are some worthy of worship other than Allah (SWT) (Audzubillah).
Likewise it is an extreme view that men cannot marry more than four women and pressure is on one only. This as a moderate view would mean that we can compromise the limits. Again middle path is not moderate.
Let's give the example of the middle path of a body of water in a river. If you have done any river studies you will find that the fastest flow of water takes place in the middle. The slower flows are at each bank due to less water, more drag from the banks, etc. The middle path therefore is the extreme path to take when considering speed of water flow.
Being a Muslim is the extreme way the fastest way to get forgiven and the Reward.
Hijab is not the head cover, the head cover is part of hijab. Just as modesty and chastity and lowering the gaze and avoiding unnecessary contact with non-Mahram are parts of hijab when ALL of these are done only then it is called hijab. Hijab is an inward and outward combination for both males and females.
Being care-free about hijab means we are being care-free about being Muslim. Because part of being Muslim is to observe hijab.
These definition of terms may help:
Fanaticism = when one follows a tradition blindly without any understanding or reason
Liberalism = When one favours freedom over protection
Conservatism = When one favours protection over freedom
Extremism = When one increases the dichotomy of ones own stance
Moderate = When one decreases the dichotomy of ones own stance
Monotheist = When one believes in One God
Muslim = When one believes in One God, and the last Messenger Muhammad (SAW)
Mo'min = When one puts all beliefs into ones actions, being strict on oneself and lenient on others
Muh'sin = When one strives for bettering him/herself, sacrificing ones own rights for that of others.
Hence; the term Extreme Liberal means that the dichotomy between freedom and protection is widened in favour of freedom.
Also the term Extreme Conservative means that the dichotomy between protection and freedom is widened in favour of protection.
Extreme liberalism can lead to oppression of values by societal opinion
Extreme Conservatism can lead to oppression of person by state opinion
Being Muslim is not balancing up the freedom vs protection equation. Being Muslim means that we must liberal in some cases and conservative in others. i.e. we need to be favouring protection in some cases and favouring freedom in others.
Both Liberalism and Conservatism preach fairness, i.e. you treat others the same as yourself.
However, Islam does not. Islam preaches the treatment of others with leniency and treatment of oneself with rigour.
Being a Muslim is by that definition.
However, to be a Muh'sin which is loved by Allah (SWT) we must be EXTREME Muslims, which means not only aren't we lenient on ourselves, but we choose to sacrifice our own rights for the sake of others. If we did not forsake our rights there would be no sin on us.
The dichotomy in being Muslim is that of human will and Divine Will. The more we sacrifice human will over that of Divine Will the more extreme we become in being Muslim. It is therefore correct to be Extreme Muslim. To be a moderate Muslim therefore means to tend towards the other end of the scale. It means that one should try to lessen the difference between ones own will and the Will of Allah (SWT) i.e. obeying Allah (SWT) sometimes and obeying ones own desires sometimes. In Islam this is defined as a type of hypocrisy.
Are you sure we should be moderate Muslims?
Please listen to Farham Ali again early in the video he says the difference between a human and a Muslim is that a human thinks of himself but Muslims also think of others. This is exactly what Islam states ... Thanks for the video.
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Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
After reading all the above posts, I remember Dr. Zakir Naik proudly saying "I am a fundamentalist!" :D
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Lusi
thanks for sharing the video.
It was a great message from them.
Re: Farhan Ali Agha on Nadia Khan Show
Sajal Baji thanks!
Psych, you kind of got some of the points completly or kind of wrong. Right now I don't have time to write a detail reply, I will do that later but I am glad you got something worth out of the clip which was the purpose....