Fareed,Extremist Are Losing ..Aamin

Do you agree with Fareed a Muslim from India son of Rafique Zakaria ,a popular congress leader of Mumbai .

If his theory is correct ,it may help to have moderates at the helm of countries particularly Mid East specially in view of the impending Bushes swash buckling John Wayne stance .Like wise man says immitating a monkey is not a wise thing to do so better not give chance to thses gun happy red necks to spoil our peace …aamin

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The Extremists Are Losing
By Fareed Zakaria
Tuesday, September 3, 2002; Page A17

In one of his legendary moments of brilliance, Sherlock Holmes pointed the attention of the police to the curious behavior of a dog on the night of the murder. The baffled police inspector pointed out that the dog had been silent during the night. “That was the curious incident,” explained Holmes. Looking back over the past year, I am reminded of that story because the most important event that has taken place has been a non-event. Ever since that terrible day in September 2001, we have all been watching, waiting and listening for the angry voice of Islamic fundamentalism to rip through the Arab and Islamic world. But instead there has been . . . silence. The dog has not barked.

The health of al Qaeda is a separate matter. Osama bin Laden’s organization may be in trouble, but – more likely – it may be lying low, plotting in the shadows. In the past it has waited for several years after an operation before staging the next one. Al Qaeda, however, is a band of fanatics, numbering in the thousands. It seeks a much broader following. That, after all, was the point of the attacks of Sept. 11. Bin Laden had hoped that by these spectacular feats of terror he would energize radical movements across the Islamic world. But in the past year it has been difficult to find a major Muslim politician or party or publication that has championed his ideas. In fact, the heated protests over Israel’s recent military offensives and American “unilateralism” have obscured the fact that over the past year the fundamentalists have been quiet and in retreat. Radical political Islam – which had grown in force and fury ever since the Iranian revolution of 1979 – has peaked.

Compare the landscape a decade ago. In Algeria, Islamic fundamentalists, having won an election, were poised to take control of the country. In Turkey, an Islamist political party was soon to come to power. In Egypt, Hosni Mubarak’s regime was terrorized by groups that had effectively shut down the country to foreign tourists. In Pakistan, the mullahs had scared Parliament into enacting blasphemy laws. Only a few years earlier, Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini had issued his fatwa against the novelist Salman Rushdie, who was still living under armed guard in a secret location. Throughout the Arab world, much of the talk was about political Islam – how to set up an Islamic state, implement Islamic law and practice Islamic banking.

Look at these countries now. In Iran, the mullahs still reign but are despised. The governments of Algeria, Egypt, Turkey and (to a lesser extent) Pakistan have all crushed their Islamic groups. Many feared that, as a result, the fundamentalists would become martyrs. In fact, they have had to scramble to survive. In Turkey, the Islamists are now liberals who want to move the country into the European Union. In Algeria, Egypt and elsewhere they are a diminished lot, many of them reexamining their strategy of terror. If the governments bring them into the system, they will go from being mystical figures to local politicians.

Many Islamic groups are lying low; many will still attempt terrorism. But how can a political movement achieve its goals if none dares speak its name? A revolution, especially a transnational one, needs ideologues, pamphlets and party lines to articulate its message to the world. It needs politicians willing to embrace its cause. The Islamic radicals are quiet about their cause for a simple reason. Fewer and fewer people are buying it.

Don’t get me wrong. This doesn’t mean that people in the Middle East are happy with their regimes or approve of American foreign policy, or that they have come to accept Israel. All these tensions remain strong. But people have stopped looking at Islamic fundamentalism as their salvation. The youth of the 1970s and 1980s, who came from villages into cities and took up Islam as a security blanket, are passing into middle age. The new generation is just as angry, rebellious and bitter. But today’s youth grew up in cities and towns, watch Western television shows, buy consumer products and have relatives living in the West. The Taliban holds no allure for them. Most ordinary people have realized that Islamic fundamentalism has no real answers to the problems of the modern world; it has only fantasies. They don’t want to replace Western modernity; they want to combine it with Islam.

Alas, none of this will mean the end of our troubles. The Arab world remains a region on the boil. Its demographic, political, economic and social problems are immense and will probably bubble over. Outside the Middle East, in places like Indonesia, the fundamentalists are not yet stale. But you need a compelling ideology to turn frustration into sustained, effective action. After all, Africa has many problems. Yet it is not a mortal threat to the West.

Nor does it mean, alas, the end of terrorism. As they lose political appeal, revolutionary movements often turn more violent. The French scholar Gilles Kepel, who documents the failure of political Islam in his excellent book “Jihad,” makes a comparison to communism. It was in the 1960s, after communism had lost any possible appeal to ordinary people – after the revelations about Stalin’s brutality, after the invasion of Hungary, as its economic model was decaying – that communist radicals turned to terror. They became members of the Red Brigades, the Stern Gang, the Naxalites, the Shining Path. Having given up on winning the hearts of people, they hoped that violence would intimidate people into fearing them. That is where radical political Islam is today.

For America this means that there is no reason to be gloomy. History is not on the side of the mullahs. If the terrorists are defeated and the fundamentalists are challenged, they will wither. The West must do its part, but above all, moderate Muslims must do theirs. It also means that the cause of reforming the Arab world is not as hopeless as it looks today. We do not confront a region with a powerful alternative to Western ideas, just a place riddled with problems. If these problems are addressed – if its regimes become less repressive, if they reform their economies – the region will, over time, stop breeding terrorists and fanatics. The Japanese once practiced suicide bombing. Now they make computer games.

It might be difficult to see the light from where we are now, still deep in a war against terrorists, with new cells cropping up, new forms of terror multiplying and new methods to spread venomous doctrines. But at his core, the enemy is deadly ill. “This is not the end,” as Winston Churchill said in 1942. “It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is the end of the beginning.”

The writer is editor of Newsweek International and a columnist for Newsweek.

© 2002 The Washington Post Company

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interesting theory. I dont know if I buy into it though. The radical groups, though minors, in Pakistan - still hold intense sway over some people, and the public is still not vocalized against them.

Also, things happen in cycles. Maybe dogs will be quiet today, but you never know. Maybe they want you to think they've lost their courage.

at any rate, what is wrong is wrong. And this militant twist to Islam is not doing anyone good.

PCg :slight_smile:

I agree with you on both account .

I am not sure whether Fareed is too optimistic or too pleasing to American audience ,after all he is social climber & not become Editor in Washington Post News Week without pleasing what sounds good to the masters :rolleyes:

I also wanted to postr in the religion section for one reason that some extremist do cvome here & may be get into there head that what is good for Islam is good for them too.Its better to be able to practice Islam un inhibited than facing hostility like after 9-11 which doesnt help the muslims or Islam

As i say stubborness (zid) is not sign of maturitry & survival only favours the smart no matter what .After all Aqal allah ne diya hai what more do you expect from him ..use it or lose it …

Adabtability flexibility & practicality of Islam is neumerous ..it doesnt need Priest ,nor even mosque to start praying …Its free of rituals myths & superstition …so & so forth Stress & build on those pillars rather than on confrontation with Hindu or west Or Jews which is tiresome as we can see from Kashmir to Palestine …

We need to be thinking like a winning team coach …not like Bull Fighter :hehe:

Gymkanacyst: Do you have idea into the background of Fareed Zakharia? He is probably more knowledgeable than most of the pundits on this BB. I wonder who their masters are? :rolleyes:


Chaltahai :smooth:

I give to you ,u may know more ,And Fareed may be all u want to say

I only agree with the empasis that extremism needs to go or lessen in every ideology .It (extremism) is a sign of regression ,going backward & immaturity .:cool:

Instead of opening ANOTHR thread ,i decidd to post this NYT the most influential news paper article written by a Egyptian Woman ,American ,like most of us here .
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/03/opinion/03ELTA.html

Keeping Faith With Islam in a New World

By MONA ELTAHAWY

am dreading the anniversary of Sept. 11. I am an Egyptian-born Muslim who recently became a permanent resident of the United States, and I brace myself for a renewal of blame. Muslims across the United States have condemned those attacks and have visited schools, churches and synagogues to explain how different is the faith they hold dear from the hate-filled zealotry that took control of those planes. Countless Muslim commentators, on television and radio and in newspapers and magazines, have distanced themselves from the evil perpetrated on Sept. 11. But if Muslims are continually called upon to apologize, a defensiveness will set in that will distract from the questions we need to ask to move beyond Sept. 11 and reclaim the stage from the maniacs who want to take over the mosques. All Muslims cannot be held accountable for the murderous actions of 19 men. But we must hold ourselves accountable for examining how those men were able to distort the teachings of Islam to such an extreme end. When the World Trade Center towers crumbled to the ground, they brought down with them the denial of many Muslims. Many at first could not believe that Muslims had committed such an act. But over the past year, moderate Muslims, realizing that they had been silent for too long, have spoken out against the extremist element in the religion. As a Muslim living in America, I have had to work hard at my identity in a way I did not when I lived in the Middle East. Miles away from the calls to prayer that blare five times a day from the thousand minarets of Cairo, and that give an ebb and flow to the day in a way a watch never can, I strive to locate and preserve what I value in Islam. I first visited New York in the summer of 1982. I was back this summer, my 20th anniversary visit. As always — this was my fourth trip — the city had my heart racing. But I did not know where to put my eyes. How do you deal with the gaping wound in Manhattan, so strangely juxtaposed with the serene Battery Park City promenade, with its stream of roller-bladers and joggers? How do I reconcile myself to the thought that the awful attacks of last year were carried out by fellow worshippers of a religion I cherish and which has provided such constancy in my life? Mohamed Atta and I were both born in Egypt, a year apart, and called ourselves Muslim. Why did his identity fill him with so much hate and lead to his murderous end, while mine gives me a much-needed core of solace? We both lived abroad for several years. Why did his expatriate experience lead to Osama bin Laden’s chauvinistic Islam while my years abroad injected my faith with tolerance and an acceptance of others? On the most basic level, Mr. Atta and I represent the two forces tugging at Muslims today. His backward-looking faith, austere to the bone and stripped of compassion, sought to recreate an era that exists mostly in the imaginations of fundamentalists. Perhaps because women have rarely fared well in these imaginary bygone eras, I struggle to keep my Islam strictly in the here and now. Islam’s emphasis on social justice and egalitarianism is my springboard into a faith that refuses to separate people into us and them, Muslims and others. How could I separate the two when they share the same concerns? The “Why do they hate us?” asked by my American f