As long as whatever you think, stays in your head - is it OK?
Or could it be classed as cheating?
I had a really surreal dream once, and its not one I forgot. In fact I like to rethink it.
The way I look at it - it doesnt involve animals or kids - and it stays in my head.
So no harm done.
Only physcos act out their deranged, illegal fantasies - and usually end up in jail and on the CRIME CHANNEL
Interested in an Islamic opinion on this also.
Re: Fantacizing - is it a form of cheating?
how bad is bad?
and to answer your question (someone hand me fat spartan’s flame torch shield) i dont think its cheating. as long as its in your head, and stays in your head. go nuts :k:
ps, you may want to add a few more things to that no-go list.
Re: Fantacizing - is it a form of cheating?
buddy you are going to get some serious … khair in my eyes it is reason being, i think just thiking of doing someone you know (celebrities excluded) is like doing the deed and trust me spouses dont appreciate that as that is the first step that leads to the next, but then again thats my conservative opinion 
Re: Fantacizing - is it a form of cheating?
Islamically - Ur supposed to say astaghfar coz satan's in ur head stickin bad thoughts, but a sin is only a sin when you've done the deed.. and angels arn't all up in ur head to know what ur thinking.. only god knows i guess
Realistically - I really dont know.. and if my other half was fantasising.. Id be amazingly jealous and as they say ignorance is bliss :)
so u r saying fantasizing is not a sin? 
dammit, why wasnt i told of this before and i felt bad for all these years ? ???
Yeah, thats what i think.. Not saying it happens 100% but for some jerk who cant control himself i guess it could
see occasionally i say things that you agree with (somewhat) :k:
noo im not saying that… im saying i THINK its not a sin… but i read something recently by some molvi on the net which said that u shud avoid it because it could lead to weakening of iman
ohhhhhhhhh, now you are confusing me 
lol!
Ok sorry.. here ive done some quick research… and i was wrong lol!
**Question:**
**I seem to be going through a phase of thinking about intimacy with my husband for much of the time, to the point where it is preoccupying me. By the grace of Allah, it has not yet affected my worship in a very direct way, but I would like to know whether fantasising about one's spouse (without masturbation) is detrimental. **
**Answer:**
In the Name of Allah, with blessings and peace on the Messenger of Allah
1. Experiencing increased desire is very natural, and often indicative of a healthy marriage relationship. However, it is best to ensure that this desire is fulfilled in a meaningful manner with one's spouse, and caution must be exercised not to err an fall into sexual indiscretions, such as masturbation. It is clear in the Shariah that it is the duty of each spouse, husband and wife, to fulfill the sexual needs of the other, and doing so is one of the means of having a strong, lasting, and healthy marriage.
2. **However, fantasising about other than one's spouse is not permitted Islamically. And it eventually leads to sexual improprieties, and is known to harm relations within marriage, too. There is harm in it, and no good. **
**And Allah alone gives success. **
Faraz Rabbani.
Re: Fantacizing - is it a form of cheating?
Yes i agree strongly with the fact that one thing can lead to another … it all starts in the mind … what may seem like a fantasy today , might turn into a wish that you would like to see for real …
Therefore , its condemned to have such fantasies , though as LLama said , as long as its in your head , you havnt really committed a sin.
Personal advise : stay away from good or bad fantasies … focus on real happenings and real things in life 
As long as whatever you think, stays in your head - is it OK?
Or could it be classed as cheating?
I had a really surreal dream once, and its not one I forgot. In fact I like to rethink it.
The way I look at it - it doesnt involve animals or kids - and it stays in my head.
So no harm done.
Only physcos act out their deranged, illegal fantasies - and usually end up in jail and on the CRIME CHANNEL
Interested in an Islamic opinion on this also.
it is OK in a way as you will constantly cursing yourself that its bad, and committing such action will make you gain some more gunnah. and you start fearing ALLAH SWT even more and ask for forgiveness from the sher of shaitan.
if such thoughts are making you constantly fear ALLAH SWT, then its good. cuz this is what you are made for.
you are made Ashrful Maqhlooqat cuz this is the reasoning that defines you. you constantly have to judge your actions.
but if you blindly follow such thoughts, without considering your intuitiveness and how ALLAH SWT will react to your call, then its good to read Quran and find out how many nations were wipeout from the face of this earth.
i agree with you as far as the Islamic pov but in general terms you lost me, so you are saying is it cheating or not ?
P.S in your signature you say you have 2 rules but mentioned 1 only, that is cheating 
well then you should question yourself: are you cheating ALLAH SWT? can you even cheat ALLAH SWT who is closer than your sheh-rug? are you cheating with yourself? is your cheat hurting anyone else?
the thing is since you only responsible for your action you have to constantly see your stand on everything, with respect to your actions.
if everything is positive then you need to look more into your actions.
ps. lol.
well then you should question yourself: are you cheating ALLAH SWT? can you even cheat ALLAH SWT who is closer than your sheh-rug? are you cheating with yourself? is your cheat hurting anyone else?
the thing is since you only responsible for your action you have to constantly see your stand on everything, with respect to your actions.
if everything is positive then you need to look more into your actions.
ps. lol.
thats what i am saying that it is wrong in terms of our islamic beliefs, but is it cheating with your spouse. I do see what you are saying and i agree and to be honest it is wrong whatever way you look at it but when i am not doing anything physically with another person it should not be considered cheating with my wife ?
well if this is your definition then we all are committing this sin when watching movies. movies is all fantasy, denoted as hyper reality. (greater than your life)
i think i read an ayat (i will try to locate it, but i wont gonna promise) that as long as it is a thinking its not a gunnah, let alone gunnah-e-kabeera.
but as i said ask constantly for forgiveness and ask ALLAH SWT to get rid of u from these thoughts.
ps. if you have good niat you do get its Sawab, where as implementing on such thoughts are more rewarding. but ALLAH SWT is merciful, and i think he wont punish anyone for any bad thoughts. Be Optimistic! :k:
Re: Fantacizing - is it a form of cheating?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm !!!
Re: Fantacizing - is it a form of cheating?
If you try to think and fantasize, it might not be good but if it strikes your head out of the blue, there is nothing much you can do...
Re: Fantacizing - is it a form of cheating?
sure you can decent, you can strike it back out of your head and think about God and the angels