and where?? ![]()
that prophets have died before Muhammad :saw: <—does this not show, Hz Isa :as: is dead
and where?? ![]()
that prophets have died before Muhammad :saw: <—does this not show, Hz Isa :as: is dead
did u even care to read the verses i posted above???
or just because mirza did not like these verses as they opposed his idea of death of Jesus, u chose to ignore them too… ![]()
Mr. Armughal:
The death on a cross was considered a curse death (laanati). Now look again at the verse by keeping that in mind.
Hz Masih Maood :as: got to know from Allah(swt) that in Holy Quran comes, Hz Isa :as: is dead, I feel sorry for you guyz not to understand Holy Quran.
my question is still there, where is Hz Isa :as: now? if heaven raised by Allah(swt) then where is Allah(swt) if everywhere, means Hz Isa :as: MUST be everywhere too, this is a logic which I take out from your belief(btw nothing to do with Islam)
To Mr Armghul The genuis read your self the Ayyets correctly i will post again from your posting
[quote]
Quran 4:156-159
That they rejected faith: that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge.
That they said (in boast) “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary the Apostle of Allah”; but they killed him not nor crucified him but so it was made to appear to them and those who differ therein are full of doubts with no (certain) knowledge but only conjecture to follow for of a surety they killed him not.
Nay Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power Wise.
And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness against them\quote]
**Now let us look at these ayyets ONE ayet By ONE… IN the first ayyet Allah is refuting… They didnt kill Christ nor crucided him but it was so made to appear to them and those who differ there in are full of doubts with no knowldge but only conjecture to follow for of a seruty they killed him not… here Allah is refuting those who think that they killed him but Allah is saying they didnt but it was made appear to them.. THE OPPOSITE OF KILLING IS LIFE. not assention to heaven. Ahmadiyya prespective is he was delieverd from the cross safe he didnt die but wrather preached his teaching after the crusifixion and then died as natural death WE DO NOT BELIEVE HE DIED ON THE CROSS now here this ayyet is only refutation to thos…
Now lets look at the 2nd ayyet…Nay Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power Wise.
And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness…here Allah is saying Since he didnt get killed but he did his job and convayed the messge to others ALLAH EXALTED his status did not took him up bodily WHERE did u see a word that says BODY HEAVEN or SKIES
NO… DOnt you read Dua between 2 sajdas… WARAFANIE… O Allah exault my status… or are u saying there O ALLAH lift me up bodily… DO some justice your self, Show from the quran that RAFA means Assention bodily to the skies You will not even FIND a single place. Every where the translation in Quran is Exaulting Status Why don u see that. Wrather then blaming on AHmadies that they are wrong. NOT even that. **look what Holy Prophet (saw) said **
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Here Holy Prophet (saw) if u adopt humbleness Allah lift u to the 7th heaven NOW have u seen any Humble Person lifting up to the 7th heaven Or you say that in Ummate Mohammadiyya there is not a single person who do not adopt humblness… Look Holy Prophet (saw) had done the translation of the SAME WORD used in Holy Quran
Look what else is been said on this.
A great scholar and Mujadid of Islam says Mohiyyodin Ibn e Arabi i dont think you can claim that u konw more arabic then him
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i think he solved the problem in his tafseerul Quran Either he is also not muslim according to you since he hold the same belif as us
“”“”“”“”“”“”“''Ik nishaan kafi hey gur dil mey KHOF`e Kirdgaar”“”“”"