Faisal Iqbal is actually not really Test material. He is an aggressive batsmen at times. Against Sri Lanka, he was playing Murli with some aggression and I believe if the pitch was better, he would have scored more runs. But his shot selection is his real weakness. I think if he spends some time on this and Javed Miandad coaches him rightly, he will be a good solid player.
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Well i do on parts..but i think its still to early to judge...let them play a while and then we should start assuming.
How about that?
But I really cant understand and non of you could answer it why Imran Nazir and Misbah are not in the squad.
Any IDEAS?
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I watched a talk show featuring Aamir Sohail, Javed Miandad, Rashid Latif, and yousaf Youhana some days before the team left for Sharjah Cup. One of the guys from the audience asked Aamir about Imran Nazir's exclusion from the squad and he said :
When a player gets out by getting caught or run out and hasn't been making much runs then you can attribute that to his poor form and stick with him until he finds his form again. But when you have a player who repeatedly gets bowled out or lbw, then you know the guy has a problem with his technique and needs to work on that. Same is the case with Imran. Plus if you look at his current performance in the Domestic circuit, its nothing to brag about. Only recently (then) has he made a big score in one innings..something in the 80's. before that he's been getting out in the 10's and 20's. So if I select him there will be people asking me why he was chosen and on what basis cuz his performance doesnt merit a selection.
About Misbah: Tauqeer Zia when asked said that the guy has potential and will walk into the team anyday.
Don't know what to make of Zia's statement though.
OneDay cricket is not about the batsman come nad start hitting the ball all over the park..
If hitting is name of ODI then the average score per inning should be 1000 runs..300 Balls 4 runs on each ball..make 1200..
The avg Run per inning in ODI is around 250 (80 SR) ...
IF faisal iqbal is not the ODI material than Atapatu,Dravid,Martin are also not the ODi material..
try to settle this guy,hopefuly he will fill the one down position in Pak ODI team..
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Guy that must be your fifth or sixth ID 
told you not to take pangay with Khanu
I don't know why people start panicking if a player does not perform upto "expectations". This guy is not so slow to be regarded as "test material", his pace of scoring is as slow/fast compared to M Hafeez then why blame Faisal only? If its just because he is "bhanja", then its pure jealousy/over-criticism.
As already pointed out, he plays mostly at #3 spot where none of our current batsmen want to play (including Youhanna). This is the "defensive" position if first wicket falls early, which usually happens. Look at all the scores from all batsmen in this tournament. These are low scoring pitches where bowlers get the upper hand.
We might need an aggressive batsman at #1 or #2, but for current situation its okay. We only lost 1 game out of 6. Do you guys think that every team can be "Australia"? Specially with so many youngsters? Get real.
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I don't know why people start panicking if a player does not perform upto "expectations". This guy is not so slow to be regarded as "test material", his pace of scoring is as slow/fast compared to M Hafeez then why blame Faisal only? If its just because he is "bhanja", then its pure jealousy/over-criticism.
Nobody is panicking; we are just trying to determine why selectors (aamir sohail and others) didn't select Misbah?
I know Faisal can play but he may not be the perfect player for #3 spot and Tufeeq may not be perfect for #1 spot but those are just my opinion. I am not coach but I can see that he hasn't done well in last 6 games except Sharjah final, he is not consistent.
As already pointed out, he plays mostly at #3 spot where none of our current batsmen want to play (including Youhanna). This is the "defensive" position if first wicket falls early, which usually happens. Look at all the scores from all batsmen in this tournament. These are low scoring pitches where bowlers get the upper hand.
**Why these players don't want to play #3? I think Coaches and management should check these players commitment to the Pakistan Cricket Team. I think sometimes players can't make good decision that why there are coaches to help them. If these players are determine and serious about wining games then they will do what ever it takes to win the games. I think Younis khan is a perfect candidate for #3 spot, then Faisal (or Misbah or Tufeeq Umer) then YoYo.
I waiting to see you Faisal Ather & Yasir Hameed Play...**
We might need an aggressive batsman at #1 or #2, but for current situation its okay. We only lost 1 game out of 6. Do you guys think that every team can be "Australia"? Specially with so many youngsters? Get real.
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Well i do on parts..but i think its still to early to judge...let them play a while and then we should start assuming.
How about that?
But I really cant understand and non of you could answer it why Imran Nazir and Misbah are not in the squad.
Any IDEAS?
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Imran Nazir is not on the team because he apparently had a connection in the last selection committee - someone who was really pushing to have him on the team - then he started doing kind of badly in Sept. and they dropped him from the squad. Although in his defense I will say that the rest of the team wasn’t doing too well at the time either. In a Test against Australia he and Taufeeq opened and both did badly, but they dropped Imran.
He did go into a funk for a while and had a pretty ordinary domestic season until just recently.
since 0the selection committee has changed and Aamir Sohail is not impressed with his technique (whatever that means considering he's very impressed with Faisal Iqbal's technique). I think right now when they are nurturing players and Miandad is coaching it’s the perfect time to bring Imran back. Especially when we need an aggressive opener.
Although he was invited to the selection matches but opted not to go. I don't know what it is, but I'm guessing it's ego.
Tauqir Zia admitted that it was a bad decision to leave him out of the WC squad, but right afterwards they left him out in Sharjah, right when he was doing really well domestically also.
I think it's also because Zia and Imran Khan are bad mouthing each other in the press. Imran Khan said that Imran Nazir had the potential to be a world class batsman but the PCB doesn't know how to nurture its players (which is true).
So I think Zia it cutting off his nose to spite Imran Khan and not taking Imran on the team. Since Imran Nazir knows he won't get a chance he's not going to even bother going to the selection.
As for this thread I think that Faisal needs to play Test (if he must play at all). I haven’t seen any of this great technique or consistency that everyone keeps boasting about. I’m assuming that there's only room for either Faisal or Misbah on the team at the moment and one of them has got a better connection! I hope that eventually the PCB realizes that Misbah has proven himself every chance he’s gotten and deserves to be on the team.
I apologize for such a longwinded post, but that’s my take on the situation.
Westsidepaki
Remember how guys like Afridi did extremely well under Miandad's coaching, I think Afridi should be played under Miandad once more, remember last time under Miandad how he spanked the Indian bowlers all over the ground in Chennai Test.
Faisal Iqbal's a good player with plenty of ability but he doesn't sem to have the desire to make big scores. That's the first requirement in any type of match, if you don't have that, then all the abilty in the world won't help. He needs to start taking his opportuntities, he's not going to keep getting handed them forever. I wouldn't write him off just yet though, these pitches aren't the best to judge a batsman on unless he's getting himself out with stupid shot selection.
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I watched a talk show featuring Aamir Sohail, Javed Miandad, Rashid Latif, and yousaf Youhana some days before the team left for Sharjah Cup. One of the guys from the audience asked Aamir about Imran Nazir's exclusion from the squad and he said :
When a player gets out by getting caught or run out and hasn't been making much runs then you can attribute that to his poor form and stick with him until he finds his form again. But when you have a player who repeatedly gets bowled out or lbw, then you know the guy has a problem with his technique and needs to work on that. Same is the case with Imran. Plus if you look at his current performance in the Domestic circuit, its nothing to brag about. Only recently (then) has he made a big score in one innings..something in the 80's. before that he's been getting out in the 10's and 20's. So if I select him there will be people asking me why he was chosen and on what basis cuz his performance doesnt merit a selection.
About Misbah: Tauqeer Zia when asked said that the guy has potential and will walk into the team anyday.
Don't know what to make of Zia's statement though.
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Chhotin...P.
Appreciate that very much :)
But dont you think Toufeqs techniq is also very strange one? He gets LBWd or Bowled....so he is havin same probs as well. isnt he?
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he is not a complete batsmen as of yet he needs time in the middle which he hopefully will get in the near future. when that happens inshallah soon then we will be able to determine properly whether he is test or odi material he has only played a handful of games and its not fair to judge him as a test/odi cricketer so soon in his career.
peace…
The simple problem with Taufeeq is his footwork and his shuffeling,
Yup he is a ODI material just look at him. kitna sundar hey 
Please no more nazir or afridi. Nazir was a constant failure after some initial success. He was a failure then and he is a failure now. Check how he faired in domestic games for a new look team right after WC. IT is easy to remmebr such players when our batsmen are playing below par . Heck someone even mentioned WASTI and enquired why was he being axed when he scored 80 something in WC99..arghhh..I respect everyones views but please dun dig up players like Wasti or even Ijaz. I hate these players with passion.
By the way, Faisal is the only player that has the guts to bat at number 3. Neither Inzi, Youhana or Y.Khan are confident at batting at 3, and these are players that have been playing in the international circuit for numerous years.
If a 22 yr old boy can bat at 3, with confidence, let him. He is the only one that played against Austrailia with any success, slapping warne to the boundary.
Thank You.
Batting lineup aganist Sri Lanka on May17.
Mohd. Hafeez
Faisal Ather
Younis Khan
Faisal Iqbal
Yousuf Youhana
Shoaib Malik
Abdur Razaq
Shoaib Akhter
Rashid Latif
Mohd Sami
Denish Kaneria
You mean May 18 
My line up would be :
Taufeeq Umer
Faisal Athar
Yasir Hameed
Yousuf Youhana
Younis Khan
Shoaib Malik
Abdul Razzaq
Rashid Latif
Shoaib Akhtar
Mohammad Sami
Danish Kaneria
I would rather pick Taufeeq instead of Hafeez. This is first time I saw Hafeez play and I wasn’t too impressed. In the last game, Taufeeq played well for his 21 when all other batsmen failed miserbaly, except Shoaib and Rashid. Hafeez got out to a lazy shot and I think he is not the right type of player on these kind of pitches. You need to have pateince on this kind of a pitch and I think Taufeeq has plenty of it seeing from the last game.
I think Yasir Hameed should be given a chance instead of Faisal and Danish should play instead of Umar Gul. Lets hope for the best :k:
Why would you bring “Yasir Hameed” on 3rd spot when he is playing his 1st ODI. You should check Taufeeq record, he has failed so many times, Rashid Latif may think this guy deserves a chance but I don’t. If the match is going to me in Colombo I will start with Hafeez & Faisal Ather but if the match is schedule for “Rangiri Dambulla International Stadium” then I will give Tufeeq Umer & Faisal Ather a chance but the draw back will be one less spiner. I think it is time for senior player like YOYO or Younis should play @ 3rd.
Faisal Iqbal & Faisal Ather can also open.
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Why would you bring "Yasir Hameed" on 3rd spot when he is playing his 1st ODI. You should check Taufeeq record, he has failed so many times, Rashid Latif may think this guy deserves a chance but I don't. If the match is going to me in Colombo I will start with Hafeez & Faisal Ather but if the match is schedule for "Rangiri Dambulla International Stadium" then I will give Tufeeq Umer & Faisal Ather a chance but the draw back will be one less spiner. I think it is time for senior player like YOYO or Younis should play @ #3rd.
Faisal Iqbal & Faisal Ather can also open.
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All remaining mathes will be played at Dambulla because of a storm in Colombo. I do agree its time for an experienced batsmen to play at #3, especially Youhana, I think he should play at number 3 because that seems to be the only probelm spot at the moment. I didn't really I want yasir to play at #3 but I think he deserves a chance ins tead of Faisal Iqbal :)
Thats probably the only thing I don't like about Youhana, the best batsman should always be #3. He has had most of his success at #3, and he scored 2 back to back centuries at #3 as well.
Why O Why?