O paai, rehn day bari meherbani teri. I dont even know why I am conversing with you. If someone says you have a wiener, you will google 50 articles just to prove him wrong. If I wanted to hear what you lot normally have to say, I'd either click those forums where you people lurk (which thankfully I have never done), or I'd fart. Trust me buddy, I am least interested in your amazing argumentative skills. Yelp on. I'm done.
Chill out Jaanwar, I'm just messing with you.
What do you think this sub-forum should be used for? After all, it does say "All Views", right?
Jaanwar, you are wasting your quality time on another extremist (though, its a different kind).
Shall we bring up your posts about how Aqsa Parvez deserved to die at the hands of her father for defying her? You have no room to say who's an extremist and who isn't.
Extemist or not, that was not the way to talk to someone- referring to the two guys talking back after she repeatedly asked them to listen to her. And that is not how you treat ANYONE (men, women, Muslim or not). Thank goodness, I'm not living in the UK and hopefully will never have to iA.
What do you think this sub-forum should be used for? **After all, it does say "All Views", **right?
Exactly!
I'm sure if we was to remove "All views" then the threads would all find homes in other sections of the forum, I opened up a religious thread in "All views" to get peoples opinions/views on a certain religious matter, just coz it has to do with religion it doesn't automatically mean send it to religion forum does it?
“But they couldn’t articulate what they wanted to say, they just wanted to be aggressive. I told them there was nothing in their conduct that was in accordance with the faith of Islam and that obviously touched a raw nerve with them.”
The men are believed to be from the same group that protested during the Poachers’ homecoming parade in March this year.
One of them was Saiful Islam, a member of the controversial Islamist group Al Muhajiroun, which wants Sharia law to be implemented in Britain.
He said: “Baroness Warsi purports to be a Muslim but really she’s just pushing a government agenda. She should be received with condemnation. She is clearly in opposition to Sharia.”
There were further ugly scenes when the Baroness, protected by a police escort, was confronted a second time as she returned to the Beech Hill Conservative Club in Leagrave Road for a reception in her honour
Idiot scumbags, they give all Muslims and Islam a bad name.
There's civilised and diplomatic ways of voicing your views, people would be willing to listen more, pelting eggs at someone or breaking shop windows is not the way...
Good God, idiots like this give me high blood pressure.
These nicompoops make Muslims look like some jaahil, uncivilised junglees.
We British Muslims need to sort ourselves out quick, there are some messed up people in these big inner city areas, it's not just Muslims, white trash from them areas are as messed up, only problem is most Brit Pakis live in inner-city areas, a few decades ago it was drug-gangs, after sept 11 with Islam in the limelight it's the Islamic label to help them appear more ghetto and thuggish.
i like her command of the english language, very posh. not seen anything from her which suggests she does not represent muslims. she represents all faiths and walks of life very well.
I saw Baroness Warsi on BBC Question Time with BNP's Nick Griffin and I thought she argued beautifully. She speaks perfect English, holds herself in a respectable manner and she has a succesful career and education behind her. THAT is these "protestors" problem. Its got nothing to do with Islam.
They are probably college drop-outs, working as taxi-drivers, frustrated with their lives and need to take their anger out on an innocent, hard-working woman and use Islam and culture as a way of being a "mard". They are trying to show their "mardanagi" and probably think she should be tied to a sink, washing dishes all her life.
These people have nothing to do with Islam. Who the hell are they to make a judgement call about her? Who gave them the right to say she is not a Muslim? Just because they've grown beards they think they are experts on Sharia? I DONT THINK SO!
Majority of British Muslims is not like this......there are only hand full of these type of people.
The problem with British Pakistanis is that most of them came as laborers and were just let in without a filtration process that occurs to Pakistanis wanting to immigrate to USA or Canada.
When they got there, they started sponsoring their relatives and marrying their cousins in Pakistan hoping they will come to UK as well. So what you have is an entire educational and mental mindset of British Pakistanis who come from rural poor areas of Mirpur.
They lack the educational background to adapt to Western values. And that is why they revert back to their own identity which is Islam. And that is why you see so much extremism from them. It is a major culture shock to them that does not occur to the more educated Pakistanis living in Canada or USA.
^There are bad apples everywhere that's why we here so many news about girls being killed by their Pakistani fathers/husbands in USA and Canada and most of them are quite educated so I don't blame the uneducated community either......it's just the way they are raised by their parents and society.
She’s probably done more for the image of Muslims/Islam than these scumbags ever will.
She might not have a beard or wear the hijab but Islam is a lot more than these things (eve though I don’t deny these are a part), these guys might have beards but overall she’s probably a better Muslim than them.
The problem with British Pakistanis is that most of them came as laborers and were just let in without a filtration process that occurs to Pakistanis wanting to immigrate to USA or Canada.
When they got there, they started sponsoring their relatives and marrying their cousins in Pakistan hoping they will come to UK as well. So what you have is an entire educational and mental mindset of British Pakistanis who come from rural poor areas of Mirpur.
They lack the educational background to adapt to Western values. And that is why they revert back to their own identity which is Islam. And that is why you see so much extremism from them. It is a major culture shock to them that does not occur to the more educated Pakistanis living in Canada or USA.
Some of what you say is true, most Pakis who came to Britain were rural and illiterate and because of this they had a hard time integrating or giving their children a proper upbringing who in turn turned into druggies and gangsters.
But I don't know why you blame Islam all the time, the Mirpuris (majoirty of British Pakis) were never the devotest of Muslims, they are very lax (no segregation, no veil/scarf, not much emphasis on prayer)...
...even the immigrant generation weren't religious, the Brit-born generation certainly aren't, they drink, they fornicate and break every rule in the Koran. Yes they say they're very proud to be Muslim (without undertsanding Islam), some of them like to associate themselves with terror-groups but that's more as retaliation to BNP types and to appear thuggish and outlawish (it's seems cool to them) rather than out of Islamic conviciction.
The well integarted Muslims tend to know more Islam than these thuggish types ever will.
