aam bandha,
Do you have comprehension issues? I said everything can be forgiven but shirk, doesn't mean youre good to go because you have to ask for forgiveness sincerely if you have committed grave sins and repent with a pure heart.
Precisely ...... you go on commiting sins and when you retire ..... you spend rest of your retired life asking for forgivness .....
Bottom line .... as long as you belive in God ..... you are "good to go"
dude that is our thinking . Our god has a bigger heart than some other gods:D
There was also a report that her father - leader of the now outlawed al-Muhajiroun group - had paid for a £4,000 breast enlargement operation for her.
do you really trust this news?? .. forget about being a cleric or non-cleric, or eevn muslim for that matter, how many fathers in this world would actually pay for their daughter's breast enlargement in world ..
Maybe some low life pimps, but any person with normal decency would never do that
^Correct.
dude that is our thinking . Our god has a bigger heart than some other gods:D
There's only ONE God.
Re: Extremist cleric Omar Bakri's daughter leaves home after pole dancing revelations
Lets please stay on topic. If the discussion becomes that of Islam, then thread will have to be moved to Religion.
Thanks
From a father to daughter point of view, i'm with TLK. it's hard to believe until the authenticity is confirmed. From a social point of view, society shuns an otherwise religious man's daughter because she was doing something contrary to what he preaches.
It's a case of outright rebellion, nothing sensational.
WARNING … there is an indecent picture in this report
I can understand your views … but here is more on this … Radical Saudi Cleric Paid for Daughter?s Breast Enhancements While Drawing Benefits from British Taxpayer : The British National Party News
At the same time as he paid for her breast enhancement, the Muslim leader was drawing housing, security, and health benefits from the British taxpayer under the asylum racket imposed on this country by successive Tory and Labour governments.
A friend of Fostock was quoted in a daily newspaper as saying that she had persuaded her father to give her the money for the surgery “because it would make her feel more of a mother when she was breast feeding her children.”
Lets please stay on topic. If the discussion becomes that of Islam, then thread will have to be moved to Religion.
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From a father to daughter point of view, i'm with TLK. it's hard to believe until the authenticity is confirmed. From a social point of view, society shuns an otherwise religious man's daughter because she was doing something contrary to what he preaches.
It's a case of outright rebellion, nothing sensational.
Teggy i have no issue with the girl or the father for this .... it is their lives and they are free to live as they like .....
But if he DID pay for this "augemantation" ......... that i find very disturbing ...
Seriously do you think he is going to come out and say he paid for it ......
Re: Extremist cleric Omar Bakri's daughter leaves home after pole dancing revelations
^I'm with you on that. I too find it absolutely disgusting, if indeed it was done. But for the sake of argument say it was, then it's the lowest point of morality...yet.
dude that is our thinking . Our god **has a bigger heart than some **other gods:D
aap kuchh ulta bol gaye Re: Quantity wise :p
chalo gods hi le lo. MY GODS HAVE A BIGGER HEART THAN SOME OTHER GODS:blush:
Precisely ...... you go on commiting sins and when you retire ..... you spend rest of your retired life asking for forgivness .....
Out of respect for my friend teggy, I am backing off, but suffice it to say, thats how things might work in Hinduism, but not Islam.
Let me understand this ..... you are saying ... if there is a person who prays to god regularly and performs all the rituals ... but goes and commits crimes like murder of innocent people .... he can be forgiven by god ... but some one who has spent his life helping people but does not believe in religion ... he get no forgivness!!!!!!!
yes
Bottom line .... as long as you belive in God ..... you are "good to go"
Not really. Everyone will be punished for the crimes/sins they committed even if one is a "believer".
This is what her father says
“If she has done these things she will be judged on Judgment Day. But God will forgive her anything except becoming a non-Muslim.”
The quote is from Sun but the report is from Telegraph jurno ... they have also got comments from her father
Yes he's right except ...the right words should have been "God can forgive anything except shirk" instead of "God **will **forgive anything except shirk".
Re: Extremist cleric Omar Bakri's daughter leaves home after pole dancing revelations
God is an extremist then:)
God is an extremist then:)
And you are not? WoW. Do you believe in a "justice system" or do you believe in "jungle's rule"?
And you are not? WoW. Do you believe in a "justice system" or do you believe in "jungle's rule"?
if justice is done on the basis of religion or belief then it is no better than a jungle's rule.
EVERYONE IS EQUAL IN EYE OF GOD and if isnt i do not believe in such god.
if justice is done on the basis of religion or belief then it is no better than a jungle's rule.
EVERYONE IS EQUAL IN EYE OF GOD and if isnt i do not believe in such god.
According to which God are you talking about? Your own God? or God "defined" by religions?
Even according to man-made laws not all are equal (based on crimes etc.)
Everyone CANNOT be equal if they committ different crimes, sins. If all of us are "crime-less, sin-less" then we may be equal but since that is not true so we are not equal.
I don’t mean to be rude but it really is extremely retarded to link a source to the BNP website, they are well known here in Britain to concoct utter rubbish up, and have been exposed on BBC plenty of times, not to even mention the racism they exhibit.
I personally find it hard to believe but anything is possible :s, really saddens me though.
do you really trust this news?? .. forget about being a cleric or non-cleric, or eevn muslim for that matter, how many fathers in this world would actually pay for their daughter's breast enlargement in world ..
Maybe some low life pimps, but any person with normal decency would never do that
Well actually you just called about half of LA low life pimps. And its just from one city :).