EXTREMISM UNCOVERED!

EXTREMISM UNCOVERED

Today people and the world talk about the term “Extremism” everywhere. even on this website you will see hundreds of threads that had been opened so far on the topic of any extremist activity held. and everyone’s misperception about extremism is that extremism is only this, that is termed as religious extremism. and in defining “Extremism” we must keep in mind the teachings and the orders of Almighty Allah and then we must relate our activities accordingly and then define extremism. well ppl can say that what extremism has to do with Islam? but when you actually see the unextremist behaviour, then all those unextremist behaviours always co relate with the Islamic teachings, if someone has such a level of mind to co relate instead of imposing his personal views on the Islamic views.

Mainly there are two types of extremist groups in our society; 1) Liberal 2) Religious. Liberal people think that only Islamic elements are extremists but not them who become the champions of humanity in the world. but thats not the case, extremism is present everywhere in the society either it is a Liberal Society or a Religious one of any country in the world. extremism is present everywhere. and thats another issue that someone intentionally or unintentionally become so blind that he cannot see all kinds of extremism from his eyes.When you say that Religious Extremism is to impose any religous or so called religous thought on the people at gunpoint, without their will, then same is the case with the Liberal Extremism as well that imposing any liberal thoughts and views on the society on the gunpoit or by continously denying the reality and true religous practices and orders of Allah which are themselves not extremism, but have been called extremism by our ignorance friendly liberal fascists today who also impose their liberal ideas on the society as well. today, you can see many examples of Liberal and Religous Extremism in Pakistan and throughout the world.

now let’s first of all take examples from Pakistan;

  1. when a feudal or a landlord imposes his thoughts and orders on the people by treating them as slaves then this is extremism on his part becoz he has gone far accross the limits of a nice man as taught in Islam and Islam opposes and does not allow any feudal or a landlord to make his own muslim people as slaves on gunpoint.

  2. When the political parties and leadrs with personal selfishness and brutality call their dead activists or leaders as SHAHEEDS and if actually they also work not for the nation according to true Islamic politics, but for their personal bank balances and in order to make this happen, they and their selfish activists also impose their agenda at gunpoint, this is also extremism.

  3. When political parties do terrorist activities and spread violence in the society for any of their evil cause or if their leader dies or is shot dead, whereas in their own political rules, millions of poor people die by hunger,brutality, violence, poverty, social class unIslamic difference of poor and the rich and of castes and target killings but no one is there to take notice of such incidents and reasons then this is also Extremism.

  4. Similarly, in our corrupt society, there are two examples of discrimination, violence and extremism against women by the males of society and im quoting one example from the religous extremists and the other from the liberal extremists. Now, when a molvi or any religous so called molvi just imposes the Islamic order of Pardah on just women of his family and he himself sidelines the rules and is fond of making girl frends by violating Islamic rules himself by using specific Islamic rules for his personal selfishness and ignores the fact that the girl frends who he is very fond off are also the daughters anbd sisters of any muslim who also deserve pardah from him, then this is also a religous extremism. when during marriage of girls in our corrupt society, parents violate the Islamic teachings and orders to ask for women’s will in marriage but they just ask their sons before marriage and impose their personal thoughts and likings on females against Islam, then this is also extremism.

  5. Now, when we talk about Liberal Extremism then when the liberal people boast of giving women their liberal type of rights by making them a showpiece in the offices and then by making and selecting girl frends out of them without their consent and cash the situation in their own favour then this is actually not giving women their rights, this is actually a beghairti or in the other words vulgarity and this is snaching her rights for personal corrupt interests and is extremism as well.

  6. Similarly, when US interferes in Pakistan’s personal matters and she himself does not allow Pakistan to interfere in her own country’s matters and when she imposes her own deadly defeats in the war against so called terror and throws the responsibilty of her deadly defeats on Pakistan Army by ignoring her personal failures and lack of abilities then this is also Extremism. when US Drones kill and martyr thousands of innocent muslims and pakistani citizens in the name of war against so called terror and then take no notice of those terrorist killings and never provide justice to those muslims becoz they are muslims, and on the other hand when US threats Pakistan of her attacks in case of any loss of it’s own masses and lives then this is also brutality and Extremism and selfishness on the part of USA and their allies in the government and NATO. You all can see that what that damn US Terrorist forces had done with Dr. Afia Saddiqui our sister by imposing the allegation that she was responsible of shooting 5 US Soldiers for which she had faced sexual and other physical illegal and brutal torture which is also never allowed in any international law. and then what is done with those damn americans who sexually tortured her? nothing they are spared and those dogs are freely barking around. similarly, what was done with those kanjars of US Army who crominally violated the international law by continuing their terrorist activities in the ABU GHAREEB JAIL in IRAQ and GOUANTAMUBAY JAIL? what punishment was given to them for that massacre? just a court marshal and nothing after several voices, just becoz the oppressors were muslims. so, this all is Extremism. and US and international policies and criminal terrorist extremist behaviour and policies have themselves created religious extremists in muslims which today they are boasting off by totally ignoring more toxic extremist elements on their own side. so, such double policies do not work at all by making the world fool as the aggressors themselves are. first the root causes of terrorism and violent extremist behavior must be eleminated which the international powers never want to be due to their personal terrorist interests in muslim countries.

Moreover, the majority of our ignorance loving and literate ignorant muslims think and there is a misperception everywhere regarding Islamic orders after knowing the Quran’s Ayah who’s urdu translation is that; “Deen mein koi jabar nhe.” from this Ayah majority thinks that becoz of this they have got the license to do whatever they like and according to any secular or liberal school of thought also. Now, this only means that you cannot convert a non muslim to muslim on gunpoint, for which today liberals and secular and non muslims boast off and propagate against Islam that Islam has spread through sword. this is a slap on their faces. so that is the misperception in our society coz this is just for non muslims that cant be converted to Islam by any terrorist means or swords. but when you are yourself converted to Islam and became a muslim, then you must follow all Islamic orders and rules and there is no single question about that and there is no further relationship between Islamic and secular and liberal school of thoughts. both are against and different from Islamic teachings which are not permissible to adopt for a muslim. becoz, if it was so that if Islam had given full right to a muslim to follow whatever school of liberal or secular thought he likes, then Hazrat Muhammad(SAW) our Prophet had never got angered in any act of reading other books except Quran and following other school of thoughts except Islam. so, when a man has become a muslim, then he must follow only Islamic rules, but not any others or if he likes liberal or secular school of thought which are against Islam, then he must not call himself a muslim if he does not trust the Islamic system and has the trust in the other non muslim’s culture and beliefs and practices. becoz when anyone favours liberalism or secularism, then he himself had shown lack of trust on the Islamic systems and teachings so he also not deserves to be called a muslim. becoz if there is religious extremism as well as other types of extremism in the society, then this is not the fault or responsibility of Islam that it is responsible for that or it’s rules are Nauzobillah Min Zalik extremists, it is us the corrupt followers of Islam who had never followed Islam in it’s true Islamic sense even our molvis also, and it’s our responsibility and fault that we instead of seeking and advancing forward to know about that what true Islam is and what we must do?, we just go for a short cut by totally showing lack of confidence and interest on Islamic rules and follow libralism and secularism and tell Islam as extremism and still after helding responsible to our religion we call ourselves as muslims, which itself is an example of extremist behaviour. so, extremism is present everywhere and we all muslims need a propr treatment for that and we are also getting propr treatments from Allah in the form of floods and earthquakes for that. And when you talk about the current religious extremism and terrorist activities in Pakistan, then this is more then religious extremism becoz they are less extremist and most disintegration and political buying and selling activities of political leaders of Pakistan with the weaponry support from world powers and their forces such as US,INDIA,ISRAEL and NATO, to the so called religious militant groups who are brainwashed for disintegration activities after a grand foreign terrorist agenda inside Pakistan. poor and innocent ppl are brainwashed,kidnapped, forced to do terrorism against their own people in the name of Islam in order to disgrace Islam in the world and to declare Pakistan a terrorist state. and as our liberal and religious forces are litrate ignorant, and some recieve dollars from foreign countries, so they just talk about only the foreign so called “humanity” where women are given so called “human rights” by making them naked. and we never bother to think the difference between our culture and their culture, but as we get dollars and pounds from their, thats why we sing songs of their so called “humanity”. Hence, we so called selfish muslims just go there, from where we get some dollars and pounds and thats why we sing songs of their agenda, their so called “humanity” by totally ignoring our faults and by continiously blaming only Islamic rules every where for all problems in the world, we just become blind and never bother to think that ok if today’s religious leaders are corrupt and extremists then we must ourselves seek and search the true Islam and implement in our lives and live accordingly without any extremism and terrorism. as neither these religious leaders nor all political leaders are a roll model for us muslims(if we are and not hypocrites), our roll models are only the lives of Hazrat Muhammad(SAW) and Sahaba-e-Kiram(RA) and all Prophets of Allah, rather then shahrukh khan, salman khan, amitabh bachan, G.W.BUSH or OBAMA. So, if we all are muslims and really love our religion then we must think about these things rationally rather then discriminativly. becoz afterall, we have to be answerable only to Allah, but not to any Bush, Obama,Nwaz Sharif, Zardari, Or altaf hussain. we are so hypocritic that we all just obey our political leaders blindly as they are Nauzobillah our Nabis and Prophets without judging that whether they are right or wrong in any case and just ignore the fact that the political activists just serve political leaders as puppets to whom they use upto that time when they are in favor of their selfish agenda and whenever anyone from their own party differs from their corrupt and selfish thoughts, then they just thhrow them out of their party like a fly from the milk is thrown out, and they are then shot dead immediatly by their butchers, and to this they call so called politics which is actually just selfishness and terrorism and extremism nothing else. and we are so hypocritic that we can take out guns on the orders of our political so called “Leaders” for any just or unjust purpose or to kill any innocent person either, but our lips remain close and still when our enemies draw cartoons of our Holy Prophet(SAW), and at that time he who takes out the guns against the cartoon makers then it becomes terrorism and rules are then made and changed accordingly.

So, thats why our nation gets the proper “medical treatment” from the Allah Almighty in case of floods and earthquakes which is not an azaab for muslims in reality, but it is just a reminder that “AB TO SUDHAR JAO MUSALMANO,AB TO SUDHAR JAO.” But who cares? so we must have to see a total picture of all types of extremism prevailing in the world and our society and it’s root causes rather then just picking one type of extremism and blaming it for all types of extremism in the society. extremism will never eliminate through army operations unless and untill the social and political selfishness and injustices are eliminated or reduced in the society by total implementation of just only true Islamization rather then extremist Islamization of specific people working for personal or foreign agenda. and doing PhDs does not make a muslim a well mannerd person and a true muslim becoz for this you also have to go through Islamic teachings as a whole and implement in our lives and self accountancy is the first stair of being a true muslim but the main problem is that we all do not bother and do not intentionally like Islamization to be enforced and implemented practically in our system and in our lives becoz if Islam would be properly implemented in it’s true sense without any extremism, then we could never continue our personal selfishness and evil goals in it’s presence and would be unable to acheive our selfish and illegal goals and corruption which is looking more profitable to us right now. thats why we do not bother to think about seeking true Islam and implementing it practically in our lives after our own search for unextremist and true Islam and thats why we are just continuing a blame game against Islam by ourselves supporting our own enemies against Islam and by just talking about and making famous our religious extremism and not ourselves bothering to search true Islamization to implement in our system and we just give lame excuses of sects and thats why we dont bother to search but we all must keep in mind that one day we also have to be answerable to Almighty Allah for our deeds where that liberal and secular school of thought will never work nor these political leaders and extremist molvis would work, but there will only be a question that in that extremism, what have you done from your side to search a true Islam and implement in your lives and at that time if we would continue like this as we are selfish today, then we will also bear the consequences which would be unbearable punishments for us then but it would be too late at that time. and we must think about all such issues.

Regards

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Excellent post Well thought out and a joy to read.

I cannot agree with all of it but the general jist is very true. :lajawab:

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Dupe.

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Liberal extremists.. What garbage. There are no liberal extremists. Yes there are a few handful of liberals, but no one is trying to impose liberal views on anyone else. Far cry from those realigous psychos willing to behead anything that doesnt conform to their beliefs.
I would challenge you to name one liberal extremist organization that has ever tried to impose itself on Pakistan, except you wouldnt know of any.

Only a fool would compare liberals progressives who only want to see a Pakistan where human rights and dignity are paramount to psycopathic murderers who are willing to murder anyone, man woman or child for the sake of their ideology.

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CaptainFT: I do not know if you wrote above post or copy pasted it, but fact is that, the person who wrote above post does not know the meaning of extremism and what it stands. It is long post by someone without knowing basics of the subject (or maybe a propagandist trying to do propaganda on behalf of Religious Extremists and Satanists).

Extremism does not mean a person is following what they believe, but it means a person is forcing others to follow (or do) what they believe. Anyhow, when a person not only forces others to follow (or do) what they believe but kills other for that, than that is not even extremism but it is Satanism (here religious does not mean Islam but any religion).

In Pakistan we have large number of religious Satanists roaming around along with religious extremists, who are killing people in the name of religion (they believe)

As for liberal extremism, there is no such thing. Word ‘liberal’ contradicts extremism, as liberal believes on ‘live and let live’. When a liberal becomes extremist than that person cease to be liberal. Actually, there cannot be any liberal extremists but certainly, as the things are going on in Pakistan, we may have secular extremists, though even they do not exists in Pakistan at present.

If by any chance Pakistan does get secular extremists active we would know it, because when that would happen we would hear news that seculars have done suicide to blow up religious seminaries and mosques, attacked religious gathering with suicide attackers, gunmen entered religious gathering and started firing indiscriminately with AK-47 killing hundreds, cut the throat of people just because they were fasting or praying, attacked a bus and pulled out all with beard then shot them at roadside, kidnapped and castrated people they believe are religiously inclined, kidnapped number of Nikabis from Madrasas and took them home, No Niqabis or Hijabis are safe walking on road as seculars are attacking girls wearing Niqab or Hijab abusing and humiliating them, so and so.

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When we would hear such news then only we can say that seculars in Pakistan have turned into extremists. I do not think any of what I mentioned is happening in Pakistan and since it is not than it means Pakistan is safe from secular extremist, at least at present. How long, I cannot say.

[Actually both, religious extremists and secular extremists are agent of Satan (are Satanists) and at moment Religious extremists are doing the duty for Shaitan in Pakistan, so Shaitan has not introduced Secular extremists in Pakistan to compliment his Religious extremist agents].

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excuse me sir! infact you do not know the meaning of extremism . it is not necessary to only kill for your thoughts to impose, but to just emphasize continiously on unjust and false judgemenmts is also extremism and then to preach it as well and not see the whole true picture. well those liberals who know that liberalism is against Islam and is not a good thing are not extremists but those who neither accept this acceptance nor they repent and still consider themselves as muslim, this is extremism man, not just only to kill anyone to impose any thought. im not saying my words, i have told you and you also know that what Islam actually says, becoz infact you would have read Quran.

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man whatever you are saying about extremism today, it is more then religious extremism where foreign activsts are terrorising by kidnaping and using name of religion and brainwashing ignorant ppl. well not an organization may be you could say organization as well, Musharraf and PPP are those liberal extremists who are and tried to impose their terrorist and liberal version of Islam where ppl have no rights and ruling elite has.

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Sa1eem, you said it very well... Some people here on this forum, simply are clueless about different terminology's and are nothing but pseudo experts.

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:k:

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same is the case with most of the other people giving false lame excuses to clear themselves and their opinion but they badly fail in that

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well who is right and who is wrong, it would be just decided by Allah Almighty on the day of judgemnt that who say according to Islam and who give false explanations by just emphasizing their version of liberal Islam or extremist Islam on people with false lame excuses, but not you and me will decide that

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Exactly..
Let Allah decide on judgment day who has sinned or not and what punishment he/she deserves.
As far as this mortal world is concerned we need to establish justice and punish crimes against individuals/society.
Let's not support extremists who want to take Allah's job in this world by chanting punishments for sins...

You and I although both muslims live on totally separate planet as far as understanding Islam is concerned. However it is good to note that at least we can agree on the judgement day and Allah's job. For this it is totally essential to distinguish between sins and crimes..!!!

For the rest we can and muslims/non muslims from every mentality can co-exist in this mortal world if we leave Allah's job to Him... and try to run the society on justice/equality/tolerance... virtues common to every human being irrespective of his religious inclination.

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Examples of liberal extremism are forced and in your vulgarity, profanity and decedance promoted by various liberal quarter/entities, be they NGOs, political parties, media and the excessive lifestyle of the liberal elite...

Furthermore, the clamoring for and practical useage of extreme measures in dealing with whoever and whatever is perceived as a threat...Mush's long list of liberal measures in support of war of terror, including but not limited to selling his own countrymen to CIA, bombing his own citizens, and massacring women and children in places of worship...

MQM's, another liberal entity, state within state in the urban areas of Karachi, murders, extortion, kidnapping, intimidation, et al, is another fine example of liberal extremism/terrorism...

Then we have the complete subversion of the constitution and rule of law by the biggest liberal of all in the country, i.e. PPP, with it's clypto Chorman, it's deceased Governer, overstepping his authority and bypassing courts ruling...

So all in all plenty of liberal extremism/fascism to go around...

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ZulfiOKC and Yazdi: Thanks.

**
CheGuvera:** What would you say if someone insists on calling wolf to a goat, calling Hyena to a sheep and calling bear to a buffalo?

Well, I would not like to say what these people are called, but think carefully and you would know that you are doing the same when you call someone extremists who are living the life they believe without forcing others to follow them.

To your information, if an individual or group who follow Islam starts praying 500 rikah Nafil a day, starts keeping fast 300 days a year, starts giving 90 percent of their earnings in charity while keeping themselves hungry, starts going for Umrah every month, starts doing Hajj every year, starts doing wadu for half an hour before every prayer, starts keeping beard 3 feet long, or whatever ... then people might say that the person is mental, but still no one would say that the person is extremists. Reason is simple, that is, they are doing what they believe without interfering with others life, neither forcing others to follow them.

In similar way, if a person drinks, take drugs, do dance naked, never pray or fast, never give a penny on charity, do Zina, take bribes, watch blue movies, well do whatever but do not force others to follow them then in same way as above, people would say that the person is corrupt or that the person is not religious, but no one could call these people extremists (except those who are ignorant of the term extremist).

In both above cases, persons mentioned are not extremists because their actions are limited to themselves and that they are not forcing anyone to follow their actions/beliefs. Anyhow, if these persons come out of their personal lives and start imposing their beliefs on others by force (not preaching, discussion, argument, etc ... but by force) than these persons would become extremists.

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Being tolerant (or not being extremists) is state of mind. It means to follow what one believes but not interfere in the lives of others, except through peaceful means. Every Muslim who believes on Quran is religious and tolerant, because Quran tells Muslims that all humans are equal and creation of ‘ONE’ God, that Allah has not put a Muslim to look at the affairs of others, not to say bad of what others believe or worship, no one is responsible of the burden of others, etc, etc. In other words, Quran tells Muslims (believers) that they should be tolerant and thus whoever believes on Quran becomes not only Muslim but tolerant too.

Tolerant environment is not a suppressive environment and thus is most conducive to Islam, because in tolerant environment one can preach, discuss, argue and convince each other regarding beliefs and regarding what is right and wrong without fear of anyone imposing their thoughts (or beliefs). In such environment truth and right beliefs flourishes (hence Islam flourishes, not misguided Islam of extremists but Islam of tolerant), whereas lies and wrong beliefs disappears (hence Jahalat or ignorance disappears). Shaitan loves suppressive environment as in suppressive environment people fear to practice or even say what they believe, thus most in such suppressive environment live a life of Munafiqs (they compromise their beliefs due to fear of suppressive elements). Certainly those who impose suppressive environment are agents of Shaitans.

Some so-called Muslim try to justify forcing their beliefs over others by quoting Quran 3:104:

YUSUFALI (3:104): Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity.

For them, since they believe they are on right, they consider it their duty to enforce their ‘supposedly good’ beliefs over others and stop ‘supposedly evil’ beliefs of others by force. Actually, they are just working for Shaitan.

These people do not realise that in this ayah, Allah is not talking about beliefs but about good and evil of societies (that is common across faiths and beliefs).

As for beliefs (or things related to religion), if one reads Quran carefully, we would find that Allah has not allowed force when it comes to beliefs, but left that on individuals, telling Muslims to preach, discuss, argue, and convince to bring people towards Islam (even if they are Muslims but not practicing). So, to use this ayah to enforce beliefs is against Quran (numerous ayahs that there is no force in religion/beliefs speak loud and clear).

Quran also tells what is good and evil in society, and tells people to fight evils of society. According to Quran, good in society is ‘to have ‘no fitna’, that is to live peacefully and let others live peacefully, create peaceful and tolerant environment where there are no crimes, exploitations, atrocities, hunger, killing, use of force, and injustices (all these are fitna of society, accepted by people of all faiths/beliefs). As for fighting evil, it is fighting crimes, exploitations, atrocities, hunger, killing, use of force on others, and injustices in society (all these are Fitna in society).

Note: According to hadith from Ali (RA), kufur cannot destroy a Nation but injustice can, means kufur though is not good, it is not evil as injustice (and related evils present in society - any society). Injustice is evil in all societies, be that society Islamic or kufr, so fighting evil is common factor across faiths.

We have to understand that ‘if Allah wished, there would not have been kufur’. That means, Kufur is there on earth with permission of Allah, that Allah uses to test people. We should realise that when one fight and kill someone just for faith/belief, not because someone attacked or harmed us, than it only create fitna. People of one faith may be stronger one day and people of another faith would be stronger another day, that means unending fighting, killing, atrocities, etc.

Inter-faith fighting stops spread of true faith, as people of all faith believe they are on right path. Shaitan uses that belief (me right - you wrong) to create repressive societies, thus effectively stops preaching, discussion, convincing, arguing, and understanding each other, as all would be considering other as enemy in repressive society, and stop discussion ending true faith (Islam) to spread (even if repressive power is misguided Muslims). For instance, even when repressive power is misguided Muslims, discussions and preaching on equal terms would stop making non-Muslims resist even to hear and know Islam. As for Muslims, they would start fighting each other, as all would be considering their own understanding of Islam as true Islam and rest as heretics or misguided.

Just imagine … in ayah (6:107) Allah tells Muslims that it is Allah plan that kufr exists (people worship gods other than Allah), but reminded Muslims that Allah has not made them to watch over the doings of others or dispose off their affairs. Further, in ayah (6:108) Allah tells Muslims that not to revile (abuse) what Kuffars worship as that would make them revile what Muslim worship. That means, if Muslims would abuse others when it comes to faith, others would abuse Muslims. This would happen because all consider what they follow as religion is luring (right and attractive), so as far as faith is concerned, Allah tells Muslims to leave people alone, as in the end all would return to Allah and then Allah would tell them the truth (judge them).

Quran 6: YUSUFALI:
Ayah 107: If it had been Allah’s plan, they would not have taken false gods: but We made thee not one to watch over their doings, nor art thou set over them to dispose of their affairs.
Ayah 108: Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did.

Thus, it shows that Allah forbids use of force when faith is concerned. Some might say that, what about using of force on Muslims, then also answer is clear, that it would create sectarian war between Muslims, each abusing beliefs of others. Whoever would be stronger would impose their will over others, something Allah forbids.

Just think that if use of force over others (non-Muslims or those who do not agree with particular group of Muslims) is good than it would be inviting non-Muslims to use force where they have upper hand. That means non-Muslims should make life of Muslims difficult in their country too. For instance, some retards believe that Blasphemy law is according to Islam, than they should answer that if it is fine to have such laws in Muslim lands than what about people following other religions having such laws in non-Muslim lands?

For instance, if India brings law that ‘cow’ is their religiously respectable entity, so anyone abusing cow is doing blasphemy and if they do that in India then they should get hanged. So, would that be fine for these so-called Muslims?

Actually, the way things are going on, it seems that non-Muslims are clearly showing that they are better humans than these thugs in Pakistan calling themselves Muslim. That is true too, as kuffars are misguided, but these thugs are agents of Shaitan (worse then Kuffars).

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Now saleem! from your this staement you yourself had admitted that your first staement regarding extremism term was a false one and admitted that you still are confused about it's meaning and do not know that what extremism actually means.

Now see your first statement in your first reply that was;

"Extremism does not mean a person is following what they believe, but it means a person is forcing others to follow (or do) what they believe. Anyhow, when a person not only forces others to follow (or do) what they believe but kills other for that, than that is not even extremism but it is Satanism (here religious does not mean Islam but any religion)."

Now that shows your actual level of "COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE" about the term "EXTREMISM". So you actually need to learn it's true meaning dude. :)

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so in short extremism is just a state of mind whether a man forces others to do what he say or according to his thoughts or not. extremism is not only when you force others, but also if you emphasize not to see the realities and truth and just only emphasize on your own thoughts which is also extremism. becoz it is just a state of mind.

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you can also see foreign extremists now a days terrorising pakistanis. such as raymond davis