Because they and their families have been feeding tax into the system that made the universities unlike international students. :p
Well some times it also revolves around University‘s policies as I have just ended up doing a course where my tuition fee was same for both categories. so It doesn’t matter how much tax I have paid during last couple of years , I simply didn’t get any tax credit back . so my point here is , if Pakistani education board has a special complimentary policy for hufuz , wtz the big deal ?
Look aleee- ish, I personally think it is a good thing that people are huffaz but will you [and i am talking to all] support it if universities in the US decided to accord special status of admission for being a bible thumper? At least in public universities, it doesn’t matter in the US if you know bible or not.
And I think i have answered your international situation. Now, I don’t know where actually you are [in europe? or the US??] but there is also a notion that international students don’t have loyalty towards the country. I don’t know what “tax” you are talking about but at least in the forms I have seen, the international students don’t file income tax. It is more of a cost issue.
PS I don’t understand what rate of tuition has to do with your international or domestic situation / tax rate? You only can claim limited breaks on income tax which only permanent residents / citizens pay.
Shriek11 , I dont mind mate , if any one goes and learn bible or geeta by heart and get some appreciation for doing this extra curicular activity , in end no harm made ! I say no point picking up some thing , adequate and acceptable in Pakistani society , for just no being in comman practice in our western world . I just hope you know wha i mean here !
But you won't get extra credit for geeta and bible in pakistan, do you? :p
I was seriously distressed by what Ajju wrote [if true]. No wonder we are the state we are in with stupid mullahs instead of good alims. You can see that in the West, the christian clergy have degrees in modern subjects other than religion and this was true for muslims at the height of their power.
^ Muslim Scholars in the west also have that, and as well as in Pakistan. You cant label all scholars as uneducated, my personal experience stands ground to that. I've met many scholars who have been well versed in the knowledge of the sciences (to the extent it doesnt' cross boundries and question God) as well as deeni ilm.
The two things go hand in hand.
If India had marks for memorization og Geeta for their students, so be it thats their land.
This is the ISLAMIC republic of Pakistan, and ISLAMIC it should be.
ANd it should promote the spread of ALLAH the almighty, and the one true God.
Thats the muslim belief, thats what muslims should spread, whats wrong with that?
Can Pakistani Hindus get extra marks for memorizing bhajjans?
Bhajjans are like naat and hamd we say.. and their is no marks for that...
Now if the hindu govt. of india doesn't want to promote and/or encourage hindu kids to memorize their holy books, then what we can do about it? can u suggest!!! and please be noted that Pakistan is a Islamic state...
yes few people know that if it remains as Islamic state their ethinic card will not long and soon they have look for other jobs to meet the both ends, so they try hard to discourage any activity which take Muslims near Quran.. cause implementing Quran is their death.
what the whinners failed to see is that Not every muslim is a Hafiz too... you may find only 1-2% hafiz in a group... back in school days in Karachi, my school had like 4000+ students and only two were known hafiz-e-quran in the whole school.
I suggest Pakistan Govt. start giving extra 20 marks to those who are Hafiz-e-Babile too.
I think being a hafiz would take a toll on your regular studies.. so lets give them those 20 marks.. i dont mind. I think its a pretty impressive feat... call it an extra subject.... you can memorize it and get the 20 marks if u want... or you can spend ur time studying and get more marks in the other subjects... balances out I think.
^ Muslim Scholars in the west also have that, and as well as in Pakistan. You cant label all scholars as uneducated, my personal experience stands ground to that. I've met many scholars who have been well versed in the knowledge of the sciences (to the extent it doesnt' cross boundries and question God) as well as deeni ilm.
The two things go hand in hand.
If India had marks for memorization og Geeta for their students, so be it thats their land.
This is the ISLAMIC republic of Pakistan, and ISLAMIC it should be.
ANd it should promote the spread of ALLAH the almighty, and the one true God.
Thats the muslim belief, thats what muslims should spread, whats wrong with that?
Why just India? Let's talk about Canada, your beloved home country. All Christians should get 200 extra points in SAT for memorizing Bible and greater chance of getting into college as well.
Why just India? Let's talk about Canada, your beloved home country. All Christians should get 200 extra points in SAT for memorizing Bible and greater chance of getting into college as well.
Sure why not? Lets give those 10 Canadians the 200 extra points on the SATs.
In the US, legacies and underepresented minorities get extra points in college admissions. I think that is more discriminatory than giving preference to someone who is a hafiz. At least we (Muslims) will all have the equal opportunity to work hard and memorize Quran Sharif.
I think whiners should file a proposal in National Assembly to change the constitution which regards Quran as the rule of law (though it might be only 2% currently), as well as change name of Pakistan to "Democratic Republic of Pakistan" then we can debate whether Muslims should be able to get the 20 marks for being Hafiz or not :p
I don’t see any problem with that if Canada can change their name to CHRISTIAN REPUBLIC OF CANADA.
I wonder how many of you who are objecting Hafiz’s points are going to object if you get 20% discount on Car insurance for being a “Professional” (Masters etc Degree holder)
Sure why not? Lets give those 10 Canadians the 200 extra points on the SATs.
In the US, legacies and underepresented minorities get extra points in college admissions. I think that is more discriminatory than giving preference to someone who is a hafiz. At least we (Muslims) will all have the equal opportunity to work hard and memorize Quran Sharif.
Religion is different than education. One is a belief, other is knowledge or acquiring of knowledge. I don’t have any issue with giving hafiz-e-qurans extra credit, as long as it’s not limited to only one religion and it’s sacred book.
Religion is different than education. One is a belief, other is knowledge or acquiring of knowledge. I don't have any issue with giving hafiz-e-qurans extra credit, as long as it's not limited to only one religion and it's sacred book.
Hifz of Quran does not come under Belief, it comes under education. That is why it is not required for the muslim to Hifz the Quran, though it requires him to believe in Quran
Pak-wun, don't we have a quota system which is worse than the US system in Pakistan already?
Missing the point. Quotas systems ARE bad. This is not a 'quota' you can be from any province, city, of Pakistan and still be a hafiz, and get those points.
You only can claim limited breaks on income tax which only permanent residents / citizens pay.