Experience ordering from Shakeelz Couture online/ internationally ?

Has anyone ordered from Shakeelz Couture internationally? I am contemplating on placing an order from one of their outfits posted on FB and currently speaking to someone called Haris.
He’s been pretty cooperative and efficient in replying to my messages and skype as well.
And Shakeelz is quite well known in Karachi as well this I know.

Before I go ahead and send out the money, wanted to check here if anyone has had good experience dealing with them from outside of Pakistan and how the outfit turned out to be? As this is a significantly huge amount i will be sending across and dont want to fall in trouble or regret my decision later on.

Any review or advices will be appreciated.

Re: Experience ordering from Shakeelz Couture online/ internationally ?

I don't know of any Haris that works for them. You could be getting conned. I ordered my bridal dress from him, and I went there in person. Shakeel'z - the famous one - is run by two brothers. One does the tailoring, one does the designing. One of the brothers - his name is Sikandar, and he is the brains behind the designs actually, and he is the sales guy. Very well spoken gentleman, and he takes his time with you to give you the right product that will look good on you. These are not internet savy people - they are old fashioned pakistanis who know their trade well, however, they didn't strike me as the type that can be online. Sikandar's sons are the ones that communicate for orders from abroad. But I still think he's better able to serve your needs if you meet him in person. Shakeel is his brother and I think he's the tailor.

I would not order online. In Tariq Road alone, there are like 3 other boutiques named "Shakeel's" just to immitate these guys and fool people into thinking they are "the original" shakeel'z. I wouldn't be surprised if there are con-artists online. If you're looking to buy designer and / or from known people who know their trade, then you need to fly there in person and do it directly. Or hire someone here, who is reliable and can get your work done correctly.

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MY sister ordered her engagement outfit from them online and dealt with a guy called haris. The dress was perfect but the measurements were off so i called them and tild them to make a new top and send it to me in a day and they shipped it to me freebof charge and that fit her perfectly!

They got the size weong initially but accepted their miatake and rectified it immediately which to me was very refreshing coming from a well established pakistani designer, usually they are too arrogant to accept their mistakes.

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Ok I figured it out.

So this Harris guy calls his brand "Shakeel'z Couture". If you look at his facebook page, he is the actual designer (I guess, I'm not sure if you guys are speaking to him or his representative). His bags interestingly do not say "Shakeel'z Couture". They say "HarisShakeel". They're frosty white bags with his name in Black - in Modern font.

I also checked out the photos on this facebook page, and the inside of the shop is different than the shop I went to.

So the shop I went to where I did my dress is different than this Shakeel.

I could be wrong about this, but my family has been going to these guys now for 2 generations, and from what they've been told, this is the original Shakeel's. They remember these same salesman from the original store in Saddar - and this store has been there since around Partition time. I'm guessing Haris Shakeel is using the name because "Shakeel'z" is a name long recognized all over Karachi, and a lot of people have banked in on this name. I'd say because he isn't using this logo on his bags, he isn't the original Shakeel'z that people talk about.

Having said that Harris Shakeel makes fantastic clothes, and I wish I knew about him. At least from the pictures, he seems like he knows what he is doing. I've messaged him on facebook to sniff around - I'm asking him where he is located in Karachi, and then I'm going to ask about the Tariq Road shop I went to, and I'll see what he says ;)

He probably will claim to be the original Shakeel'z like they're all claiming to me. Wonder who is the real one, now.

My family might be mistaken, who knows. I thought they knew what they were talking about.

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Just some info on the people I went to:

Brother is named Sikandar, and Shakeel is the Tailor that started the shop (or maybe the original Shakeel is their dad, I'm not sure, but I heard Shakeel was the tailor who took my measurements, but I never asked his name tbh).

They don't have a FB page, they told me. They also do not display their clothes on a catwalk. (Harris Shakeel does, which gives you a hint that he's younger and a newbie designer). If you want to contact them online, they direct you to their son's whatsapp number, and they will send you pictures of clothes and samples, and you can order them ahead of time, but I'm not sure how this works out. I'd think it's logistically hard to handle.

shrugs who knows, maybe I ended up at one of the knock-off's, but the dress they made was great.

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Can you share your experience once you do Princessniadia

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This thread is really helpful. Im trying to have my family in karachi visit shakeels as well but I'm not sure the one theyre going to is authentic. Can you send me the whatsapp number of the store you think is the original one with two brothers? Do you know where in tariq road it is??

My family said the store they went to the owner was very rude... didnt show them much.

I literally only made an account here to find this out so any help would be really appreciated!

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I don't have the number and my aunt who did is not in Pak anymore.

Salesman's name is Sikandar. The store is across the street from the corner of Dollmen mall.

Name of store is spelled with a Z not an S. Shakeel'z Couture.

Haris Shakeel is using the same name on his FB page but if you look at the pics of his store on FB, the store's name as can be seen on the shopping bags is "Haris Shakeel". I messaged him and he confirmed the store I'm speaking of is a different store and he declined to comment on which is original.

I will confirm that the place I went to was originally a little rude. They showed me like 5 samples and expected me to be floored. My aunt knows how to speak to them to get them to perform but I'd have walked out too. In comparison, Haris is on FB and responds fast himself. His designs and work also looks good on the website so he may be a good resource.

My family just has been going to the one I went to for a number of brides so they're used to Sikandar's salesmanship and they know how to counter it. I definitely felt rushed to pick a design and although I am happy with the quality of the kaam and the tailoring, I wish I had more selection. I literally went to the stores and decided on the first day because we needed it done in like 6 weeks so it could be brought back to the US by an aunt that was traveling.

Also try Sampson's at Zamzama. I didn't go there but my family did. Customer service is good and they reliably parcel. My mom just didn't see anything that stuck out to her.

Also try Sea Green on Tariq Road. It's in the same shopping center as Africawala which is an extension of Sampson's on Tariq Road.

Try Makkah Bridals. Good prices, kaam is done, you just pick up and go. Just wasn't impressed with the Kapra quality and thought the kaam was too glitchy.

Rhim Jhim , Jabeen's , PLK are all beautiful quality work but out of my price range and those stores are staffed with sales guys who don't personally cater to you, or get to know your style, or give a crap if you buy. No effort on their part really.

So I liked Sikandar. I warmed up to him as I chatted about random things and explained what I was looking for.

I wish he showed me more samples but he didn't seem interested in digging through old samples to show me work. He has a book of drawings for motifs and you pick a few and he gets them done and shows you. Urgh...so many things wrong with their business model it's not funny.

These stores all should have a catalog with real samples of the work on a piece of cloth in a book or something that you can flip through. But I think it's based on the karigars.

You can go to Kehkashaan and get the kaam done direct from the karigar and he will charge you 200 dollars per formal outfit. Retail store then turn around and sell the pieces for 300-400. Dunno if they are a good resource for bridals though. The pro of going to a place like rhim Jhim is that the formals are done in terms of kaam. They're just unstitched so you take to the tailor and get it stitched. So it saves a lot of time and headache compared to buying silk, then dyeing it, then giving it to th karigar. They will delay each process and you need someone in pak to follow up. Otherwise you'll end up with the incorrect design.

These folks are all disorganized. They take your order, and screw it up 20-60 percent of the time. Even with my bridal the neckline shape was different although I could see based on the kaam why. They gave me a U shape instead of a round shape. The motifs I thought were going to be huge but they were small. So stuff like that is unavoidable.

With bridals you have no choice but to order. They don't have pret wear in bridals. Very few shops had a dress you could pick up and take and I'd say Makah was the only one. They will show you 20,000 dresses if you let them. They all were overdone though and too glittery and heavy and the kaam was sticking to itself so when they'd open up the skirt , you could see parts of the chiffon getting yanked and that damages the piece. But it's cheap and you get what you pay for.
I went with shakeel's because he uses pure quality cloth. And his kaam is fairly clean and doesn't stick to itself upon being folded and doesn't yank on the chiffon. He doubles his chiffon also to give a deeper color and also to prevent the yanking when you fold and unfold.

I think you just need to go in there and be specific. I gathered he hated wasting his time on showing piece after piece and having noses up in the air about it. So I told him look this is what I had in mind, what can you do. Then he stopped being an arse; and started being helpful and sketching designs and showing me different ways of modifying the one piece we did like. I do wish I had seen other samples of kaam but I just don't think they keep a lot of variety.

Sorta bummed I didn't go to Haris Shakeel. He seems like he has a lot of variety. I may go there next time for formals.