Expenses and priorities.

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That's one way to look at it, my view is if you spend so much on yourself then it wouldn't really hurt your pocket to spend a little bit more on what your child wears. To me, buying a $300 handbag every year is a waste of money but that's me. Different people have different priorities!

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wow..some pretty extreme examples in here....refusing to pay $5 for meds?? ermm...

Ive seen some really kanjoos people, but they are kanjoos overall, for themselves and everone else around them. Almost everyone I know is the opposite though, once you have kids, your spouse and yourself take a back seat to their health, safety, education and activities.

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its not just priorities, its also income levels. then again, if they can afford a $300 handbag, they really shouldn't be skimping on stuff for their kids. hmph. like you said, different priorities.

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Now of course I'm going to sound really judgemental but I've seen that many folks don't have problems spending where others can see the product of the expense. For example, people can see your $300 bag but not that you spend $50 on some educational activity. You know what I mean?

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Skimping is relative too isn't it? :D A $300 handbag for the mother and Target-clothes for the kids isn't as bad as say a $300 bag for the mom while she feeds her kids ramen noodles on a daily basis.

O ooo this reminds me of those who live in projects/ghettos but drive brand new cars and wear expensive clothes.

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reminds me;

know someone spent 4000 pounds on laser eye surgey ( she didnt need it, she didnt even wear glasses, her eyesight was fine), bought the most exp makeup/shoes/clothes for herself, but her kids didnt get any pocket money, no gifts for bdays, NOTHING, because their mum said she couldnt afford it.....the mother didnt even get central heating in their house, kids were cold, their boiler was a cheap one which broke down and didnt bother to fix, yet i saw her in designer dresses......her husband-same- ill kid, cold kids, yet husband and wife who both earnn high wages, didnt bother....had all the latest gadgets, yet no heating for their kids, i dnt get people like this. i would give my right arm for my baby to be warm loved and fed..and these peopleeeee...

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my own cousins- have playstation 3, xbox, wii, iphone, YET CANT AFFORD to double glaze their windows....the single glaze brings the cold in and their kids are ill too..a 2 yr old and a 3 yr ld...they also dont have heating..and use electric heaters....and even then are trying to save money on their heating for their kids..and i asked her recently why she wasnt doing a bday party for her 2 yr old, we even said just make one dish, and a cake thats all...nothing fancy....cos he wanted a party.-she said oh i cant afford it....2days later at my aunts house saw her again where she told me she had just bought herself a designer suit worth 100pounds...and matching jewlry..i did remind her of the fact that i thought she was broke? and thats why she wasnt doing her kids bday party...she didnt like that comment.

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these parents sound like unfit parents and their kids must be taken away by the state and put in foster care. i think those who have these info for a fact must call authorities and child welfare agencies in order to protect the innocent kids. those kids are abused and refused basic needs. its one's moral and legal obligation.**

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yes i know however these are people i knew years ago, her kids are now maybe my own age....so thats old story...

however my cousins are not bad parents, just stupid people.

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oh ok...so its all done with...hope those kids have come out unscathed. aameen

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it is because u CAN bargain with the Quran teacher or with a swimming teacher/coach but not with the mac ppl... lol
u bargain where u can, and dont where u simply cant. :)

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Maybe they dont think they are getting $50 worth of benefit.

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^ good point!

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No, the ones that have talked to me said they can't afford to pay $50 a month so can we reduce the tuition. And they really aren't obligated to go to that particular islamic school. There's at least 10 options in our area. They just like to bargain everywhere...or maybe if it isn't "beneficial" they should do what's best...teach their kids themselves.

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I do not understand the logic behind fee at a Sunday Islamic school. Those masjids where schools are housed , hold fund raising on a regular basis and quite frequently. Why can't they add the expenses of Islamic school in their fund raising ? All the teachers are volunteers , they charge money for books. All they is give out snack at a break and they charge 100+ dollars for a few months worth of Islamic teaching. If it is another way of fund raising for masjids expenses then meet those expenses by holding yet another fund raising and give peace of mind to all those parents whose kids go to Sunday Islamic school.

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That's another thread Mirch bhai, but not all masjids can afford to provide free services, especially the ones that are just starting out. This particular example isn't a "Sunday School" but a few days a week after school program that follows a proper curriculum. I pay $50 per child but get a very substantial education for my children in return, supplies, books and part of the money goes towards maintenance of the masjid [water, electricity, ongoing renovations, etc.].

Anyway, this thread isn't about why pay for sunday school.

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I understand. I might open a new thread for my point which I tried to highlight above.

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Pls. do that. That'll be an interesting topic.

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How about we stop judging others' parenting skills and focus on our own skills as parents. I am sure none of you are perfect parents either. It's their kids, their responsibility. They can do whatever they want with their money. This 'holier than thou' attitude is so prevalent amongst desis and really bothers me.

Ironically people who pose to be 'great' parents, spending every penny on their kids' education and giving them the best of everything don't always have kids who turn out to be successful or well-rounded individuals. Every family has its own dynamics and we are in no position to judge how others' kids are being neglected.

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At the end of the day in the time of Prophet Muhammad (saw) nobody charged money for teaching Islamic knowledge, obviously now people do as its a kind of job but it shouldn't really be a career but something done for the good of Muslims... if you get what I mean. And while people may ask you to charge less, be humble and keep in mind if you were like the best of Muslims like the sahabah you could be you wouldn't be charging at all....
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I think its a misconception that nobody had to pay for Islamic knowledge back in the day, people really had to sacrifice alot to learn, whether it was travelling for weeks and months or choosing between working in the fields/in the market or sitting with the scholars to study with them. I think in the end, we are willing to pay for what we value. If someone finds value in sending their child to Sunday School, they would pay $100 for it. If someone doesnt find value in it, they wouldnt even want to pay $5 for it. Same way that someone who finds value in a particular handbag would pay $500 for it and someone else wouldnt even want the same one for $50. I do find its sad that people always want Islamic activities to be for free and think they shouldnt be charged for it. We have tons of free lectures and books online, and most people do not take full advantages of these venues of education. At least when they are being charged for something, it might help them to take it more seriously and actually show up, since they will be more conscious of getting "their money's worth"