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Excellent HT Debate with the Modernist Disasters from MCB and the likes!



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Debate with the Modernist Disasters from MCB and the likes!



By Abuz-Zubair on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 05:03 am: Edit

Regardless of our differences with Hizbut-Tahreer, I think we need to
give them a credit for their excellent discussion with the Modernists
and the neo-puppets of British imperialism, so-called Muslim Council of
Britain and their likes, the people who supposedly represent us.

The following is a panel discussion involving:

The Presenter(ess), representing the British government, thus one finds
that she is very respectful and supportive of the Modernist MCB member
Zahid Amin against the HT brother, and often very rude to the latter.

Dr. Imran Waheed, who is one of the senior members of Hizb-ut-Tahreer
who remains calm and respectful through out the course of discussion,
and responds to various comments and remarks thrown at him wisely and
intelligently, without compromising or diluting Islam, bar the comments
about prohibition of all types of participation in the Western political
system.

Ibrahim Mogra, is introduced to us by the BBC as a widely respected
Muslim Scholar, which to us is a reminder of the Barelwi and the Qadiani
movements, originated by the British colonialists to quell the Muslim
uprising. This does not remain hidden to the listener, specially when
this ‘scholar’ does not know what ‘Jihad’ means in Fiqh, he is unsure
about the Jihad of a normal Iraqi, soldier or not, fighting the invading
forces - sorry, his boys - as he says. He reminds me of the statement of
‘Abdullah ibn al-Mubaarak when he was asked: Who are the kings? He said:
az-Zuhaad (those who are content with little of this world). Then he was
asked: Who are the low-lives? He replied: Those who corrupt their faith
to better others’ lives.

Zahid Amin, a member of the Labour party as well as MCB, who is dead
against the war, yet he finds it very difficult to articulate his belief
that the fight the Iraqis are putting up with against the invaders, is
in fact - Jihad, but Dr. Imran manages to corner him until Zahid ends up
vomiting what he feared. This person is very rude, apart from being an
absolute ignorant about the Sacred Law, as well as arrogant.
Importantly, he is the embodiment the Modernists who are bent on waging
war against what they call the ‘intolerant Islam’ or better known in the
post 9/11 world as ‘Wahhabism’. What one can clearly notice is that each
time he is faced with a comment made by Dr Imran, he becomes so
frustrated that he can barely keep his calm.

Here, I would like to highlight two points:

  1. The Islamists have common enemy here, and that is the coalition of
    Sufis and Modernists and their collaboration with the Governments, as it
    has been their trait throughout Islamic history. In this instance, we
    should look forward to co-operate with groups like HT - in righteousness
    and piety only - who dare to take uncompromising stance in face of the
    opposition.

  2. We have been teaching the theory of Tawheed to our youths in this
    country for 15 odd years. Its time that we put this theory to practice
    and speak the truth about our beliefs, in order to preserve our
    principles. This entails that we shouldn’t feel hesitant to say: Yes,
    Iraqis have every right to defend themselves, and to carry out a Jihad
    against the invading forces. Let them call us traitors, let them torture
    and imprison us. If we are really on the truth, then truth needs those
    who are ready to die for it. It sometimes amazes me, that we - the
    Salafis - who profess that Iman is speech and action, are rarely seen
    actualising our Iman by actions, yet HT who hold that Iman is mere
    belief, seem to be actualising Iman by actions more than us. Perhaps,
    the phrase, ‘Iman is actions and statements’ has merely been limited to
    a theory, about which we are ready to write extensive research and
    refute our opponents, but fall short in implementing this theory
    ourselves.

May Allah guide Hizb-ut-Tahreer to the path of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah
and unite our hearts upon correct Iman.