Ex Shankaracharya Sanjay Dwivedi [Split from Refuting Wrong beliefs]

Just how ‘Hinduism’ was founded when actually the original message sent down by God even for the Sanskrit speaking ancient people was nothing but TAWHEED. But they gave the human messengers / prophets of Allah the status of ‘LORDS’, made their ‘idols’ and placed in the temples to worship instead of worshiping the almighty God.

May Allah protect Yasir Qadhi and all like him guiding the lost masses towards the message of Allah.

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simply untrue, just lies made up by people who want to fit hinduism into their version of fairytales. the oldest sanskrit hymns are the rig vedas, very clearly a bunch of verse glorifying various nature gods very much like ancient zoroastrian, greek, norse, egyptian gods. do you even know anything about hinduism besides what some random mullahs like yasir qazi claim as hinduism?

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Hmm… queer, I’m surprised to see you defending a religion. I have always seen you denouncing ALL the religions and declaring yourself to be an atheist. How can a self proclaimed atheist defend Hinduism out of all religions?

Nobody is making up any lies or fairytales about the true message of God to the creation of God than the mainstream Hindu pundits themselves. Those who try to bring out the truth are threatened, harmed, persecuted or killed. If you have the courage to accept the truth (Though I highly doubt it), here, do it:

Ex Shankaracharya Sanjay Dwivedi now Ahmed Pandit explaining Real Teachings of Hinduism Vedas

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how is saying hinduism is polytheistic inherently defending it? you are spreading lies about hinduism being something it isnt so as to fit your blind faith. i see you havent replied on the other thread about your mullahs in KP being hindus. :hehe:

and mainstream hindu pandits dont believe hinduism is originally monotheistic, or else they would all be muslims by now.

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A question out of curiosity.

Is Hinduism considered a form of a pagan religion?

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my understanding is that pagan is the term the church used to call the pre-existing religions in europe. i dont know how that applies outside of that.

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queer, if you’d bothered to listen to the link I have provided, the answer to your below question is right there in the same lecture. Your ears did not hear it, how can I make them hear?

The acharyaas / barahmin pundits are taken an oath on the end of their training not to teach the general public the actual teachings which they learned. Listen to the lecture when you have time to focus with PATIENCE.

On the other thread, it was the way you asked was humiliating and about my source, I live in Pakistan so meet people who saw things first hand. I’m not as clueless as overseas Pakistanis who have to depend on misleading media and other unreliable sources.

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that is a 2 hour lecture. i doubt even you have listened to it. :hehe:

moreover, it seems to be fake. google sanjay dwivedi ahmad pandit and you will find various mullahs on youtube and some pakistani websites, all claiming to be this guy. :smack:

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I always have time to listen to the words of wisdom for hours from people who speak the truth with simplicity so that anyone could understand. Not to nonsensical rambling like vroom’s. I’ve listened to his lecture twice and will listens to it for the third time today. He is sure not a fake. Will post other lectures by him later on from laptop. Right now on mobile and just woke up.

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He’s sure not a Pakistani. How can you completely ignore his accent which is typical indian Hyderabadi although he speaks Urdu. How can you also ignore the way he speaks sanskrit and reads parts of hindu sacred books? How many Pakistanis have you come across who have mastered the language like that and especially who are well versed in the teachings / knowledge of religious books of hindu faith from the hindus’ perspective?

Watch all the 12 parts
Acharya Sanjay Dwivedi (Ahmed Pandit) Part-1-12

This is also a long lecture like the first one but in different settings:
Acharya Sanjay Dwivedi Ahmed Pandit on his journey to Islam

A short clip:
How Sanjay prasad Dwevedi Accepted Islam. (Ahmed Pandit)


Since his own family, his father has disowned him for taking the courage to speak out the truth, it is quite understandable that indian government has disowned him too and even deny his existence most probably upon the orders of his own father who, as per him, is a powerful figure in india. Why would mainstream media especially indian media care give him exposure? Because that exposes the ‘fake’ system the entire hindu belief system is based on. That guy, I must say, has tremendous courage for speaking out and exposing the facts as they are and sharing accounts of his real life. If he had to leave his family home to save his life, it makes sense if his life is still threatened especially if he still lives in india. That might be why he’s keeping a low profile… Maybe for the safety of his family (Wife/children).

Furthermore, I dont think he’s looking for fame. A guy who said goodbye to a super luxurious life as a hindu acharaya pundit for the quest of seeking the truth will care for fame?

Anyone who is stupid enough to believe he is fake is a fake himself as the truth is clear to those unbiased minds who want to see it.

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right, but according to you hindus from india are living in KP as mullahs. when no one in india speaks pashto, hindus dont know anything about muslim scripture let alone be qualified as mullahs in mosques.

nice try pal. these are different guys in different videos. :smack:

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^^ No those are not different guys in the videos. But if you want to continue to reject the truth right before your eyes, it really is neither my problem nor is it going to hurt me.

About the non muslim indian mullahs in local Pakistani mosques, those were indian SPIES… UNDER COVER AGENTS… Now are you suggesting that this harmless lecturer Ahmed Pundit is a Pakistani SPY acting to be someone he is not? Shame on you for trying to twist facts, seriously. You’re worse than fake mainstream media.

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May I please request the mods to transfer all the posts about ‘Ahmed Pundit’ from this thread to the following thread please:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-and-philosophy/653527-ex-shankaracharya-sanjay-dwivedi-now-ahmed-pandit.html

More suitable in that thread as it is about him.

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@queer

Here I got something more for you.

‘Gulf News’ is a well known UAE based newspaper as old as the UAE itself if Im not mistaken ( Gulf News - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). Unless you’re going to claim that Gulf News is also misleading like the indian media, this news cant be ‘fake’ or is it, huh?

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One more thing. Nowhere did I say that the nonmuslim indian mullahs who were caught as imams in Pakistani mosques were ‘hindus’. If I have said that, quote me. I dont know what their religion was. I know that they were not muslims. Im guessing that they might be sikhs as india loves to use sikhs to send to Pakistan as spies.

Secondly, I never said they were only in KP. One of the districts where that happened is in the Punjab region.

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http://www.ytpak.com/?component=video&task=view&id=3rJZWrX-fzk**

25 minutes - 26.03 minutes:** The part where he says that all the students who went through the course were strictly prohibited by their teacher to teach the same knowledge as was taught to them to the general public just a few days prior to they were going to be awarded the degrees as ‘Acharaya’ pundits.

27 minutes - 28 minutes: The part where he tells when he and his fellow students questioned the teacher why they were not allowed to spread the same knowledge to others after graduating as ‘Acharayas’, the teacher responded by telling them it was because if they taught the same knowledge to their followers, then through that knowledge, they would attain a higher rank just like them, will no longer remain in the same submissive position and hence the ‘pundits’ would no longer have any control over them. So, the pundits need to do it in order to protect their ranks as brahmin pundits who supposedly have to be above the lower castes due to their knowledge.

In simple words, if the true knowledge of the book was spread to the all the people, they will all attain a higher rank by getting closer to God hence will not need them PUNDITS as ‘intermediaries’ to reach out to God hence, the ‘power’ to control the followers which stays with the pundits will no more remain with them.

Furthermore, in the video, he says:

“Narayan Dutt Tiwari” of indian national congress is his maternal grand father ( Google Search )

Still think he is a fake?

P.S: “He is speaking a mixture of very neat Urdu, hindi, sanskrit and little bit of english here and there. Some parts even I dont understand because I do not understand hindi and sanskrit.”