I need some help to find articles regarding the fact that it’s not as common as we think.. I know it exists, it’s real but I believe that only someone who is very envious of you and has a strong feeling to harm you can look at you with an evil eye and since not many people are not like that so it’s not as common as in our Pakistani culture as we believe. For example, when kids gets sick, mothers say that it’s the evil eye cast by someone who visited and praised the baby.. or another common saying that parents can actually harm their children with the “evil eye.”
I would like to see the authentic articles supporting or against my point of view.. It’s only for my personal knowledge so please dun argue with me on my “beliefs for evil eye.”
Yes, evil eye is a fact. If we fear evil effects of 'evil eye' then we should recite Surah Al-Falaq and Surah An-Naas for seeking protection in Allah(swt)
I wasn't looking for the treatment as I said.. I know it's real and it affects people.. what I am trying to find out is exactly "is it really that common as we think in our Pakistani culture"
RV and samara khan.. I saw that before I posted here but I wasn't looking for the treatment.. I guess I will ask some aalim to clear my confusion because I am sick and tired of listening to people who keep blaming the evil eye for almost everything in their lives! I say we take it serious and seek protection from it because it can harm you very bad if the person has very evil intentions and evil heart to begin with!
I wasn't looking for the treatment as I said.. I know it's real and it affects people.. what I am trying to find out is exactly "is it really that common as we think in our Pakistani culture"
RV and samara khan.. I saw that before I posted here but I wasn't looking for the treatment.. I guess I will ask some aalim to clear my confusion because I am sick and tired of listening to people who keep blaming the evil eye for almost everything in their lives! I say we take it serious and seek protection from it because it can harm you very bad if the person has very evil intentions and evil heart to begin with!
Gemini, please consider a step ahead and rid yourself of superstition.
No such thing exists as an "Evil Eye". I know most on this forum will react by quoting tradition and things they've heard of from their elders.
But no rational person would consider it real: The Quran speaks of the "Evil/Negativity of jealous person when he is jealous", "Evil/Negativity of the chaotic whispers", "Evil/Negativity of all that was created", AND "the unbelievers will almost strike thee down with their glances (hint: if looks COULD kill they would strike thee down)".
Nowhere does the Quran speak of the alleged evil eye: It is spoken of in the Hadith collections and tradition only, which gives you a flavor of what is intended in their propagation.
Us desis call it "Nazar lag jana"....hence the evil eye, but even in Amreeka, they have similar concept. That's why they feel they got "jinxed" or people "knock on wood" just to keep the good luck...nehi. And I am not trying to argue your belief, but from what I hear, it is not just from evil intention of person, you can get nazar from parents cuz they love their kid so much...that's why they say you should say "Mashallah...
and whether you believe in evil eye or not, always good to read kul sharif, aytul qursi...etc all the time anyhow.
hynotix.. For your kind information, I am not being superstitious at all.. Evil eye exists just like black magic does.. No doubt in that..you need to read the article that RV has posted to correct your belief that no such thing exists!!! People can get jealous and wish the harm on you.. what I am trying to find here is it's not as common as we think.. it's something we need to take serious and just can't go around blaming everything on evil eye!
I referred you to the aricle because I dun want to argue with you!
Afro.. exactly my point... I understand that we should say mashaAllah for children and anything beautiful.. what I dun understand is why do we blame it on evil eye?!?!? If a kid gets sick, mommy automatically says.. nazar lag gaye hai.. I just had a heated debate with someone who said that yes parents can evil eye their children.. I was shocked to see that.. I always thought a person has to be very evil to do that.. am I wrong here?!?!?!
yeah I don't agree with folks that think EVERYTHING is due to evil eye, sometimes things happen due to common sense reasons. I knew someone whose daughter got sick....after a gathering....and she said nazar lag gey..blah blah blah...but failed to realize that umm in the very cold weather you took her out underdressed etc for quite a while.....that was bound to catch up.....but no she still blamed the evil eye...etc....
and in response to your comment, yeah i have heard parents can cause it to..but i guess your going by the literal meaning of it....i just call it nazar...etc....but do believe if you keep praying, and dua etc....you should be fine.
Gemini, please consider a step ahead and rid yourself of superstition.
No such thing exists as an "Evil Eye". I know most on this forum will react by quoting tradition and things they've heard of from their elders.
But no rational person would consider it real: The Quran speaks of the "Evil/Negativity of jealous person when he is jealous", "Evil/Negativity of the chaotic whispers", "Evil/Negativity of all that was created", AND "the unbelievers will almost strike thee down with their glances (hint: if looks COULD kill they would strike thee down)".
Nowhere does the Quran speak of the alleged evil eye: It is spoken of in the Hadith collections and tradition only, which gives you a flavor of what is intended in their propagation.
So you are saying because it is not mentioned in Quran or you don't have a wisdom to interpret the Quran correctly, it doesn't exist ?
There are several Ahdees where Rasool Allah Mohammad (PBUH) has mentioned this (I won't give you a ref. because you already know this), then according to your post, you are claiming NAOOZubillah, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was not a rational person ?
Astaghfirullah, that's what you should read more often...
So you are saying because it is not mentioned in Quran or you don't have a wisdom to interpret the Quran correctly, it doesn't exist ?
There are several Ahdees where Rasool Allah Mohammad (PBUH) has mentioned this (I won't give you a ref. because you already know this), then according to your post, you are claiming NAOOZubillah, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was not a rational person ?
Astaghfirullah, that's what you should read more often...
RC
Yes (and for good reason), No, No and Not really... although, thanks for the feedback.
hynotix.. For your kind information, I am not being superstitious at all.. Evil eye exists just like black magic does.. No doubt in that..you need to read the article that RV has posted to correct your belief that no such thing exists!!! People can get jealous and wish the harm on you.. what I am trying to find here is it's not as common as we think.. it's something we need to take serious and just can't go around blaming everything on evil eye!
I referred you to the aricle because I dun want to argue with you!
Alright, fair enough.
Since you answered Yes to the following so lets talk about that
"So you are saying because it is not mentioned in Quran or you don't have a wisdom to interpret the Quran correctly, it doesn't exist ?"
So you reject everything that is not mentioned in Quran ?
Especially things such as black magic, evil eye and other superstitions... only the most gullible mind would be willing to accept them as fact. If you want to turn me into a believer, prove it exists: I better have a major hallucination episode tonight.
Especially things such as black magic, evil eye and other superstitions... only the most gullible mind would be willing to accept them as fact. If you want to turn me into a believer, prove it exists: I better have a major hallucination episode tonight.
I am no one to prove anything, was just preparing to make my point that Ahadees play a major role in our religion and Islam is not complete or practical without Ahadees.
Black magic, evil eys, etc all are mentioned by Rasool Allah (PBUH) and as Muslims we have to believe they exist.
How do you prove, Allah exists ? It's our Iman that helps us see the unseen.
I am no one to prove anything, was just preparing to make my point that Ahadees play a major role in our religion and Islam is not complete or practical without Ahadees.
Black magic, evil eys, etc all are mentioned by Rasool Allah (PBUH) and as Muslims we have to believe they exist.
How do you prove, Allah exists ? It's our Iman that helps us see the unseen.
RC
Good to see you're up to speed on that.
No we do not have to (unless one wants to, that's a different story).
To answer your question, we ARE required to be "ta'qiloon", "ya'lamoon", "muslimoon" and then "yu'minoon" ... so superstition is out the window. If tradition goes against this, then something is wrong with the picture as far as I am concerned. But that's probably just me right? :)
No we do not have to (unless one wants to, that's a different story).
To answer your question, we ARE required to be "ta'qiloon", "ya'lamoon", "muslimoon" and then "yu'minoon" ... so superstition is out the window. If tradition goes against this, then something is wrong with the picture as far as I am concerned. But that's probably just me right? :)
What you are calling tradition is not.
No religion in the world can stand a chance without beleiving the unseen. Not every thing can be proven logically or scientifically but you can't deny their existance either.
I mean can you or I prove beyond any doubts that we are the offsprings of a man that we know as our fathers ? I don't think so because even DNA testing is not 100% correct (it is almost 100% but there is still a chance for errors), so we beleive on unseen unproven relation...
What you are calling tradition is not.
Maybe, or, perhaps you do not know what "Sunnah" means linguistically, and where it comes from?
No religion in the world can stand a chance without beleiving the unseen. Not every thing can be proven logically or scientifically but you can't deny their existance either.
Like I said, there is something wrong with the picture then.
I mean can you or I prove beyond any doubts that we are the offsprings of a man that we know as our fathers ? I don't think so because even DNA testing is not 100% correct (it is almost 100% but there is still a chance for errors), so we beleive on unseen unproven relation...
RC
Good reasoning, though by that token, all of our existence is nothing but a big joke. Maybe you and I don't exist either :)
Well, i dont want to quote anyone since I hardly get time to make a post here. Anyways i wanted to prove from few authentic narrations that evil eye is a fact and nothing superstitious in it. Have a look at these three hadith.
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 7.636 Narrated by Abu Huraira
*The Prophet (saws) said, "The effect of an ‘evil eye’ is a fact." *
Sunan of Abu-Dawood Hadith 36 Narrated by Ruwayfi' ibn Thabit
The Messenger of Allah (saws) said: ‘You may live for a long time after I am gone, Ruwayfi', so tell people that if anyone ties his beard, or wears round his neck a string to ward off the evil eye, or cleanses himself with animal dung or bone, Muhammad (saws) has nothing to do with him.”
Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 1019 Narrated by AbuSa'id al-Khudri The Prophet (saws) used to seek protection against the Jinn and the evil eye till Surahs al-Falaq and an-Nas (113th and 114th Surahs of the Quran) were revealed. After they were revealed he (saws) stuck to them and discarded everything beside them.
Hope these three narrations from Bukhari, Tirmidhi and Abu-Dawood clears that evil eye is a fact.
Peace Samara,
If the post was aimed at me, then I appreciate the response. Indeed there is no compulsion in the way of life; so you are free to believe what you desire. I, however still anxiously await my hallucination episode from post #12. How does the expression go; ah yes: I dare thee to smite me with thine eyes ;)
Has anybody thought that the evil eye is just another name for the jealousy of others that has become sour?
I mean we seek protection in Surah Falaq from people who exhibit harmful practice against us and in Surah Naas we seek protection against becoming such people by praying to be given the ability to ignore those whispers.
Whispers that could put undue jealousy in the hearts.
Jealousy is like a du'ah in contempt and if we make such du'ahs they could be accepted, or as a result of jealousy a person could say out loud 'I wish such and such ...' and the evil around them who hears that could make it happen.
^ In fact, cleansing oneself so as to NOT have ANY evil or negative thoughts towards another person is the HARDEST thing to achieve! And for a very good reason. So repeating the words in the aforementioned chapters (with meaning) to convince your mind and soul is EXTREMELY important: That is what I consider a VERY rational and POSITIVE approach.