every1 pls read

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being invited to this discussion board by sum1, i have not really posted much as i dint know where to sart from or how to approach certain things or even how to type out what i wanted to say so i stayed silent for fear of offending other muslims with my comments, i have been witnessing some of the posts and comments by certain members on this forum section who seriously lack in knowledge and manners but type without end on subjects which they clearly have no real knowledge or comprehension on and when the evidence is given to them they constantly cling on their ways and opinions of futility and jhiliya and they have mocked the sunnah on many occasions, may allah grant us all good manners, i do not mean to belittle any1, i give this advise to myself also,

let us all fear allah and seek for the truth with a sincere heart and longing for the truth, as i said in an earlier post, if u have an issue with another muslim, take it up with manners and proof, please brothers and sisters be careful of what u type, by allah it will be against u or for u on the day of judgement, stop this mocking of felow muslims without any validity for ur mockin, be they mujahidun or other than them check out sura tauba 79. we shud submit to the sunnah without any resistance or hatred towards it

But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad SAW) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission. (An-Nisa 4:65)

the main problem i have is the constant mocking of the sunnah, and i understand sometimes this may not be done on purpose please, i ask u by allah do not mock or belittle the sunnah even in a joke or a jokey manner for it is apostacy and disbeleif which takes a person out of the religion just like a click of a finger, when i herd sum comments being made about certain aspects of the sunnah i was quite shocked they were not deleted by the admins, may allah guide us all and give us clarity.

the admins u will be responsible for this forum and the comments on here since u are in authority over the rest of the memebers and it is ur duty to keep things in order, i dont meant to belittle u howeva this is just a nasiha from a muslim and this is a right of a muslim to give to his brother, sister in islam, plz keep a careful eye on those apprarently called muslims who insist on mockin the sunnah, while there are posts which had sum beneficial knowledge in them were deleted but the sunah mocking posts were not deleted and the mockers were not banned, i find this hard to beleive since we have always been an umma who has had much ghira and adaa towards those who will belittle any aspect of their religion, let us not forget the ghira of salahudin for his prophet (saw) after hiteen how he let all the crusader kings go except for 1, he chopped his neck off cos’ he said something degrading about the prophet (saw), after so many yrs since salahudin got to know of this incident about this crusader cursing the prophet (saw), he neva for one moment forgot this incident, it stayed wth him in his mind, and at hiteen he finally captured him and chopped his head off, this is just one example of the ghira this ummah has had for their prophet (saw) and this is enough of an example for those beleivers who are sincere, we have always been an umma from day 1 whose loyalties lies to allah and the religion

You (O Muhammad SAW) will not find any people who believe in Allâh and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allâh and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW ), even though they were their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred (people). For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with Rûh (proofs, light and true guidance) from Himself. And We will admit them to Gardens (Paradise) under which rivers flow, to dwell therein (forever). Allâh is pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allâh. Verily, it is the Party of Allâh that will be the successful. (Al-Mujadilah 58:22)

pls forgive me for anything i have said that is offensive to any of the muslims, this is only a nasiha, may allah increase us in piety

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people who mock islam are kafirs according to quran...read and beware.

The hypocrites fear lest a Sûrah (chapter of the Qur'ân) should be revealed about them, showing them what is in their hearts. Say: "(Go ahead and) mock! But certainly Allâh will bring to light all that you fear." (At-Tawbah 9:64)
If you ask them (about this), they declare: "We were only talking idly and joking." Say: "Was it at Allâh, and His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger (SAW) that you were mocking?" (At-Tawbah 9:65)
Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimûn (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.). (At-Tawbah 9:66)
The hypocrites, men and women, are from one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief and polytheism of all kinds and all that Islâm has forbidden), and forbid (people) from Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and they close their hands [from giving (spending in Allâh's Cause) alms, etc.]. They have forgotten Allâh, so He has forgotten them. Verily, the hypocrites are the Fâsiqûn (rebellious, disobedient to Allâh). (At-Tawbah 9:67)
Allâh has promised the hypocrites; men and women, and the disbelievers, the Fire of Hell, therein shall they abide. It will suffice them. Allâh has cursed them and for them is the lasting torment. (At-Tawbah 9:68)

so may you o hypocrites burn in the deepest parts of hell....

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**Brother Ansaree {/b]

I have pointed this delima of our admins at quiet many times. But no admin has ever tried to explain this act of theirs i.e not banning those who openning disrespect prophet :saw: Quran and Islam.

Are they Muslims just by name ? Or do they think that the authority they have ( Admin/Mods ) is just a joke ? I am no one to ask them but how do they ever be able to answer such questions infront of Allah s.w.t?

-Salman
Ps. I will modify my post which was moved to feedback and post it here and later a seperate post.

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Re: every1 pls read

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*Originally posted by Ansaaree: *
....... stop this mocking of felow muslims without any validity for ur mockin, be they mujahidun.....
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Who are these Mujahidun? Are they the ones most truthful, most trustworthy, and most tolerant?

I suspect you call the killers of Shias, Ahmadis, and Christians as Mujahidun. If that's not true then come out clearly and say you are against killing Ahmadis and other minorities in Pakistan. Be honest, and show us what's in your heart, lest the number of hypocrites goes up by one.

Khuda Hafiz

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anti obl u have already been refuted on this issue in the other thread.

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AoA,

If someone wants to discuss something that is really perplexing him/her, then he/she should be allowed to do so, even if some of us find that topic distrurbing. But if someone is only being impudent and stubborn, which, I think, is shown by just repetition or use of nasty words, then he/she should be banned.

Regards,
worried.

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Re: Re: every1 pls read

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*Originally posted by antiobl: *

Who are these Mujahidun? Are they the ones most truthful, most trustworthy, and most tolerant?

I suspect you call the killers of Shias, Ahmadis, and Christians as Mujahidun. If that's not true then come out clearly and say you are against killing Ahmadis and other minorities in Pakistan. Be honest, and show us what's in your heart, lest the number of hypocrites goes up by one.

Khuda Hafiz
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Come out and be honest....Tell us all.....You are not a Pakistani and a Muslim....Will ya!