Re: Every innovation is misguidance!
^ Peace ALIJAN101
I am not looking to see if the views are correct or wrong ... I am looking to see that labelling and inciting others towards anger is against the rules of the forum and that particular post was doing that. Can the same thing be done without singling out a community then I will be less inclined to delete it. JazakAllah khair for your efforts.
no you are not correct this time what i posted it was related to topic, and also these were notmy views, these views are belong to ummah.
hope you understand.
According to you.
According to you.
you mean that this hadith is not authentic.
every one have right to amend islam and insert innovation in islam.
Re: Every innovation is misguidance!
@pysch
brother, please pardon the off-topic question but I would like to know why is it only our posts regarding off-topics or using "insulting" names are edited but not others? I don't see how this is fair? If you don't want to answer here, just pm me please, Jazak Allah khayr.
bro AllahkaBanda
If you can put the specific post for review into a pm for me I will take a look at it. InshaAllah I expect better from everyone. There is no favouritism here. Rather I am looking to see who is starting a combat and taking that out.
As for the topic I want to be clear about it. In the opening thread there is extensive criticism about certain goings on, which I am not clear what they are talking about.
Is it bid’a to gather in circles?
Is it bid’a to count on stones?
Is it bid’a to do tasbeeh on stones?
Is it bid’a to do tasbeeh in congregation?
Is it bid’a to do loud tasbeeh in congregation?
Is it bid’a to do all this in the masjid?
Is it not bid’a if some of these conditions are not present? Which ones? How do we know?
Furthermore is it being told that we should count our sins?
Or is this sarcasm?
And lastly how does it tie in with the idea of bid’a according to your definition?
You see why this confuses me? We need to define bid’a and apply that definition across the board otherwise we should open the doors to difference of opinion.
Re: Every innovation is misguidance!
^bro, you're asking for sharee' ruling on specific situations and I'm not the person to ask these questions. As I've mentioned before, if we find basis of anything in sharee'ah, we do it; otherwise if it is an act of ibaadah and no basis in Islam then it become sharee' bid'ah. How do we know if something is bid'ah or not, we ask the people of knowledge. Off course, we need to make sure that we don't ask those people of knowledge, who are among people of bid'ah. and Allah Ta'ala knows best!
wassalam
you mean that this hadith is not authentic.
every one have right to amend islam and insert innovation in islam.
Before we talk about who has the right to amend Islam, do you realize this is a Pakistani board on which Pakistanis from a pluralist society, share their views on religion and spirituality, without malice and extreme prejudice? Which means we have to state our views without flagrantly offending Pakistani Christians, Hindus, Parsees, Shias, Sunnis, Ahmedis, atheists, gnostics. Possibly, the spirit of your post violated these principles, in the eyes of the mod. It is one thing to share why you believe in the existence of God. It is quite another to directly and violently declare others worship false gods. This is an important distinction to learn as a member of a civilized pluralist society such as the Pakistani society. I think this is what the mod is humbly and respectfully, repeatedly, trying to tell you. Did someone forget to teach you this etiquette of debating in a pluralist society forum? Perhaps you were in a bad mood when you wrote them.
Re: Every innovation is misguidance!
Before we talk about who has the right to amend Islam, do you realize this is a Pakistani board on which Pakistanis from a pluralist society, share their views on religion and spirituality, without malice and extreme prejudice? Which means we have to state our views without flagrantly offending Pakistani Christians, Hindus, Parsees, Shias, Sunnis, Ahmedis, atheists, gnostics. Possibly, the spirit of your post violated these principles, in the eyes of the mod. It is one thing to share why you believe in the existence of God. It is quite another to directly and violently declare others worship false gods. This is an important distinction to learn as a member of a civilized pluralist society such as the Pakistani society. I think this is what the mod is humbly and respectfully, repeatedly, trying to tell you. Did someone forget to teach you this etiquette of debating in a pluralist society forum? Perhaps you were in a bad mood when you wrote them.
i am only talking about islam, and as per islamic low no one have right to amend islam, no one can changed pillar of islam, no one reduced sallah, fasting, percentage of zakah etc, only ijtehad is allowed if a problem did not mentioned in quran and hadith they board of promenante ulams resolve such problem by making ijtehad.
hope answer the question.