Europe and Asia had their chances …

Europe and Asia had their chances to dominate the world … dem 4 footers ruled, Egyptians ruled … Muslims ruled, England ruled … big bro US wants to enjoy being the supreme leader of the world … What’s wrong with that? Let dem enjoy … Sit back and watch the dominos effect.. as countries fall under the US realm … [and it’s the US whose gona benefit .. not the poodles, be it UK or mid-east losers] … I say the world should shut up …

SHUTUP!!!

I agree. God Bless US & I.
P.S. USI= United States and Israel.

yes yes god bless the Jewnited States of America.

Amazing how 5 million can control a whole country. :rotfl:

It’s not that amazing.

The world’s most powerful country controlled by a race of just over 12 million. If your going to believe that then at least give them some well deserve credit.

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The world’s most powerful country controlled by a race of just over 12 million. If your going to believe that then at least give them some well deserve credit.
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I give you all the credit, UTD. I am sorry, I meant the jewish people. Anyway, yeah they deserve a lot of credit for making the most of all the aid they get from US. I am not sure if the same money was provided to a Muslim state year after year, if they will be able to kill as many people.

no no yaar u got it a bit wrong, its not the 5 million living in this country. Its the 25 or so new-conservatives, most of whom are Jewish who have provided Bush admin’ ideological underpinnings lately. (Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Newt Gingrich etc etc).

Im sure you are familiar with AIPAC, JDL And AEI and their influence on govt.

Also, look what Tom Friedman said "Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It’s the war the neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It’s the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened. " White man’s burden](http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&%20contrassID=2&subContrassID=14&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y)

Look what these hawks/new-cons are upto regarding Mid East peace plan/settlement:
**Hawks Rip Into Mideast Plan **

I dont think majority of the people on here hate the Jews, but they dont like Zionist agression either.

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The world’s most powerful country controlled by a race of just over 12 million. If your going to believe that then at least give them some well deserve credit.
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Yes, they do deserve some credit, we will give them some and Allah swt will give them the rest ;)
Do you understand the power of $$$$?

God Bless America..........!!!with Islam

One cannot but wonder how 5mil are so blatantly overrepresented in the government.

Imagine the White House filled with Muslims or Palestine sympathizers, trying to promote pro Palestinian policies. Or imagine the media moguls, all Muslim and the newspapers owned by Muslims churning out one sided view of the Palestine-Israel conflict.

I wonder if people would still shrug off the notion that a population of 6mil Muslims heavily influences to the point of controlling the United States?

Pro-Israeli contributions to Congressional candidates

You think these people if elected will keep the best interest of United States in mind? How would you react if you found out these were Muslim contributions or there was a law that allowed American citizens to make tax free donations to Palestine robbing Uncle Sam of tax money?

Actually, I am all for a race/nation utilizing its best assets to promote itself above and higher ... kudos to Jewish people for coming back so strong after a near extinct ... Actually, this race is very resilient. At least nations of the world should learn the good tactics (few) from them. Yes, they have support from the US, but they got the necessary skills to muster that support. Others should stop whining and work harder.

I'm just wondering why it is presumed in this thread that Jewishness is a race. There are some within and without the Jewish faith who claim it is a race while others claim it as a religion. Muslimness is not a race. Catholicism is not a race. Certainly people who convert to Judaism cannot change their race by doing so. If a black Christian marries a Jew, is the child mixed race?

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I'm just wondering why it is presumed in this thread that Jewishness is a race. There are some within and without the Jewish faith who claim it is a race while others claim it as a religion. Muslimness is not a race. Catholicism is not a race. Certainly people who convert to Judaism cannot change their race by doing so. If a black Christian marries a Jew, is the child mixed race?
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i think you answered your own question, "There are some within and without the Jewish faith who claim it is a race while others claim it as a religion."

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i think you answered your own question, "There are some within and without the Jewish faith who claim it is a race while others claim it as a religion."
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I have a tendency to believe that those Non-Jews who view Jews as a race are generally anti-Semitic and promote hatred from a racist angle. Those Jews who view Jewishness as a race are generally anti-everything else and also promote hatred from a racist angle. My racial bigotry sensors always become much more alert when I hear someone (Jew or non-Jew) refer to Jews as a race rather than a religion.

Has this tendency to generalize arisen due to personal past experiences? If so, what were they?

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In part, yes. But, as you suggest, they are personal experiences that I prefer not to share. Permit me to generalize further. Over the course of my life, I have found that people who tend to place high importance on racial categorization of people basically do so under an implicit or explicit philosophy that the racial category that they belong to is superior and that of others is inferior. To the extent you've got a hard core orthodox group of Jews who believe that being Jewish constitutes being part of a distinct race, I've got some serious reservations when they refer to themselves as "The Chosen People." From a logical standpoint, their argument is essentially that they are chosen or superior based upon their race. To me, this is a dangerous viewpoint whenever expressed by anyone of any particular racial group. If Judaism is alternatively strictly viewed as a religion, then you've got a group of people who basically believe that based upon their particular mode of worship and their relationship with God, they are chosen for some religious reward. That is not substantially different than any other religion.

Throughout the course of history, this perceived religious superiority has, to be sure, led to slaughter, violence, war etc. of those deemed religiously inferior. That is why I am not a big fan of organized religion at all. Yet, IMO, racial bigotry is more likely to be an effective tool to legitimize among the masses genocide than religious bigotry.

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I agree with some of what you have written there. But the truth is, this Jewish Race concept has been promoted and propagated by Jews themselves, and this has then been generally accepted by others. One very pertinent example is that of the Semitism/anti-Semitism debate. The Jews and Arabs are the Semitic people of the same stock and yet in this sense this label is reserved exclusively for Jews. If this wasn’t a race factor or a feeling of racial superiority, why don’t they say it is an anti-Jewish act or if its anti-Arab feeling, why isn’t that labelled as anti-Semitism? Because the fact is Semitism is in itself is racism and no one plugs it better than the (Zionist) Jews.

IMO, this anti-Semitism label has been used and over used so many times, especially to discredit the critics of Israeli policies so much so that its losing its actual ‘creditability’ so to speak and is in danger of not being able to identify real anti-Semitism.

Actually, MV has a point ... I am somewhat guilty of this misconception .. there can be brtisih-jews, American-jews, Australian-jews, Pakistani-jews (like NYA) .. Somehow I always looked at them somewhat as a collective entity .. my bad … Jews represent a religion and possibly many nations … But overall, this clarification has made little difference to me .. I am still convinced that this ‘group’ of people has made tremendous advances and other people have something to learn from them …

Learn from NYA Wada Saien. You can try, but I aint teaching nothin.

You are all wrong. Judaism is as much a race as it is a religion. It is hereditary and the only way to be a Jew is to have a Jewish mother. All others are considered Converts. Although there are different sub-racial and ethnic groups, but it is still one race. Read up on the 12 Tribes of Israel.

Talking of which, you guys need to read up on the Jewish Brigade, the one responsible for the creation of the Great State of Israel.

More power to Jews, and hell with everyone else. They are smart people. You can't match them even if you tried. You are too busy preaching hatred, and they are eating the cake. You sorry-ass idiots.