I was wondering if any one knows an answer to this question
Does parents have equal right on their sons salary as the wife does?
Or does the wife have more rights than the parents?
If you could answer this with a Hadith or with reference from the Quran
I don’t want personal opinion just facts
Thanks
Re: equal rights
As far as I know, there is no Hadith or Quranic reference that says that either parents or wife have a right to their children / husband's income.
Instead, there is an obligation on the son to treat his parents and wives well. He has to provide for them, but they have no right to take from him.
Re: equal rights
Peace thedoer,
Duties comes always with rights. Take out the word 'salary', then yes, parents and wife has some rights upon you. Your duty is to support both of them either financially, or by any other means. 'Salary' is just related to you and you have to decide that how to spend it.
Re: equal rights
As far as I know (according to my Islamic knowledge):
Children’s salary (rather, all their belongings) belongs to parents just like fruit of a tree belongs to the owner of garden. Situation in Islam is that, parents can even give away child’s belonging to anyone they want without asking the child, and child have no right to object. When it comes to belonging of children, father's right comes first in Islam, that is followed by mother's right.
Father in Islam even have right over children lives. One can see that from event, that when Allah decided to test Ibrahim (AS) regarding sacrificing life of his son he asked Ibrahim (AS) and not Ismael (AS), in such way that shows, Ibrahim (AS) had every right to sacrifice his son if he wanted to ... and is not expected to say that, how can he sacrifice his son when life of his son do not belong to him (in Islam, Ibrahim (AS) could not have said that, as life of his son do belongs to him).
On the other hand, wives have no right over husband’s salary. They have right to get provided by their husband certain of their provisions, and that is all.
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Anyhow, human nature and culture has determined some norm in society, however that maybe against Islam. Thus, we all know what happens in practice, and there is no need to mention.*
Re: equal rights
In Quran, where ever Allah talks about children Allah says that he gifted children to so and so … in same way when Allah talks about wealth Allah says that he gifted wealth to so and so. Thus, a child belongs to father just like wealth (or any other possessions) belongs to father. A person has every right on wealth that belongs to that person and in same way a person has every right on child and wealth of child … as children and their wealth belongs to father in same way any wealth or possessions belong to father.
Hadith: You and your wealth belongs to your father.
From Imam Ahmad, Sunan Abu Dawud and Ibn Majah:
From Sunnan Abu Dawud: Jaabir ibn Abdullah said that a man said to Prophet (SAW) ‘O Messenger of Allah, I have wealth and children, and my father wants to take all my wealth to spend it on his own needs and leave nothing’. Prophet (SAW) said ‘You and your wealth belong to your father.
[Same hadith is mentioned in other places, including by Imam Ahmad and in Ibn Majah]
There is another hadith from Aisha (RA): Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: ‘The best of what a man consumes is what he earns, and his children are part of his earnings.’
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^^[1](http://islamiology.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/prophet-saws-you-and-your-wealth-are-for-your-father/)
Prophet SAWS: You and your wealth are for your father…
A man came to the Prophet, peace be upon him, and said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, I have wealth and children, and my father wants to take all of my wealth.’ The Prophet said, ‘You and your wealth are for your father. Your children are among your best earnings, so take from what your children earn.’
(Imam Ahmad, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah)
Imam al-Khattabi commented: “He wants to take all my wealth means that he wanted to take it all and leave nothing. It appears that the reason why the man asked this question was that he was having to spend on his father, and the amount required would consume all of his wealth, not just what he had to spare. The Prophet did not give him the permission to stop spending on his father, but told him, ‘You and your wealth are for your father,’ which means that if your father needed all of your wealth, he will take as much as he needs, as if he were taking from his own wealth. If you do not have any accumulated wealth, but you have an income, you should earn money and spend it on him.”
Prophet SAWS: You and your wealth are for your father… | Islamiology ↩︎
Re: equal rights
Saleem
Re: equal rights
That doesn't sound fair
What is unfair?
When child belongs to father, what child has also belongs to father.
If father wanted to, child would have not even born (as for child to born father need to act), so existence of child in this world is due to act of father… that is different matter that in the end it is Allah who gifts the child to parents and it is Allah who decides who would be born, but then Allah made that happen through parents as intermediary.
As for sacrifice of father, other than child belonging to father, parents spend on child monetarily as well as physically throughout their childhood without thinking of any reward, when child was most vulnerable. It is parents because of them most children grow strong, get educated, and become able to earn.
Just like gardener putting seed in ground, give water and take care of tree all the way until tree grows to stage where it can start giving fruit, and then gardener start benefitting from that tree … In similar way parents put seed of their own, then nurture the child for years until time child grows to stage where that child can start giving fruit. Surprisingly, even when child start giving fruit, in most cases, even then child keep benefiting from parents (inheritance) and parents take nothing from them.
If one add all what children get from parents and average it out, one would find that on average children gives back to parents a very small fraction of what they get (most likely, less than even 1 part in million). Just imagine, people inheriting kingdoms and business empires. Even good education and skills what most children get are due to parent efforts and sacrifices.
So, what is unfair if child and earning of child belongs to father?
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Ah, so this explains why my dad said that I'm his pension....
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I know you didnt ask for our personal opinions, but I just wanted to pitch my two cents.
We need to look at this situation from both sides. Sure parents have the right over their children's wealth, but at the same time Allah has made a man responsible for fulfilling the needs of his wife and kids. If fulfilling one obligation hinders your ability to fulfill another obligation, then taking the middle route is the way.
Obey your parents in every manner, but if they ask for something unislamic, then you can disobey.