why keep religion out of it? If that is a motivation for people then thats what it is. Everything isnt about greenhead vs redneck, red vs blue, bush vs al gore, libs vs dems vs falana etc etc.
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Besides who determines what is a required amount and what is "wasteful"?
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is that like asking who desides whos good or bad? whats good and evil? whats right and wrong? if your really that confused about waste dont bother about it. I know what I find wasteful and I avoid it. Simple.
ravage, like I said, you cannot judge if a person is being wasteful. The sky is not falling and earth is not withering up and dying either so I suggest that every one take a deep breath and enjoy your life.
If religion is your motivation than go ahead......keep in mind Islam talks about "miana ravi" not sacrificing your needs.
i never judged you personally. i judged your argument i.e. since "greenhead" leaders dont follow a certain lifestyle others shouldnt either. i dont sacrifice my needs, however in your initial post you seemed to be boasting about using more than you needed. anyway, far too trivial a topic for me to pick a debate on.
ravage, you have known me (or read my posts) long enough to know that most of my debates here are for fun and needling people. I dont take any of this seriously. Anyway, my argument is not that if leaders are not following a certain lifetsyle you should not either, the argument is that greenhead leaders are hypocrits and dupe people into following a certain lifestyle while they enjoy everything they ask people to leave. That is not a definition of a leader...a leader leads by example, not words.
We recycle plastics, papers/cardboard, soda cans, etc.
I try to save water as well, during showers, brushing teeth, washing dishes etc.
Fraudz & FF - the solar powered lawn lights are such a cool idea!!
I really really wish I could improve on the plastic shopping bags bit. Does it count if you use plastic grocery bags as garbage bags around the house? I think it does, cuz then you’d have to buy separate bags for the garbage which costs more money plus doesn’t help the environment.
i don’t do much either, other than recycle paper/plastics/glass. plus, i don’t have a green thumb and i’m a confirmed plant killer
my mother however is very environment conscious wrt lights, water, recyclable batteries, etc. and she carries cloth/paper bags when she goes grocery shopping to avoid using plastic bags.
