clearly that is the only thing that matters then, and Im glad we agree. all this talk of releasing terrorists and other BS is a diversion.
coffee-cake and others... you are kidding yourself if you think a man who's only, ONLY, legitimacy and means of gaining support around the world is terrorism and radicalism, will find it in his interests to eliminate terrorism and radicalism.
everything we've seen from Musharraf in these eight years points to the fact that he views his holding onto power as the most paramount cause possible. and if you expect such a guy to cut his ONLY lifeline as a ruler, his only justification to rule, then you're being a bit too optimistic.
I disagree. Supreme Court's recent decisions has caused a lot of setback to the progressive projects the government was pushing. Musharraf doesn't need terrorists to keep his seat intact. He needs progression to a liberal state, and the Supreme Court's behavior as of late has been irresponsible in keeping to that goal.
Arhay bhai, this is the same court system that has been unable to stick to the constitution in making its decisions, relies on bribery to make a living, and not to mention Iftikhaar's absurd behavior when he was about to be fired some time earlier - which no self respecting professional needs to resort to in order to keep his seat, but this dork apparently did. The courts are terrible and corrupt, and anyone who can't see that as contributing to the problem have massive issues.
People have been harping on about how our judiciary is not free, but who do you think is accepting bribes and not making decisions independent of other forces in the country? Its not like the judicial halls have their own disobedient minds. Its these judges that need to go.
Dozens of our superior justices now seem to be falling in line as well, and have taken a new oath under the new PCO, including:-
ALL of the 5 judges of the Balochistan High Court.
MAJORITY (7 of 13) of the Peshawar High Court judges.
MAJORITY of the Lahore High Court judges i.e. 13 have already and 5 more will.
4 judges of the Sindh High Court.
4 judges of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
well mushy didn’t mind when he got the verdict in his fav. wasn’t it then same corrupt judge then? as for firing the judge, well he was fired bcos he was looking into cases which had direct connections with mushy and secret services regarding missing persons. and BRAVO to mushy for showing such professionalism, grade, dignity and respect by kneeling to western governments to let him stay in power and let him do whatever he wants to do. that was gr8 statesmanship by him. what are loser.
and just like corrupt judges, corrupt rulers and politicians must go aswell. but all mushy knows is how to make deal with corrupt ppl…how to kill innocent civilians and how to collect award points and money from USA.
I disagree. Supreme Court's recent decisions has caused a lot of setback to the progressive projects the government was pushing. Musharraf doesn't need terrorists to keep his seat intact. He needs progression to a liberal state, and the Supreme Court's behavior as of late has been irresponsible in keeping to that goal.
Arhay bhai, this is the same court system that has been unable to stick to the constitution in making its decisions, relies on bribery to make a living, and not to mention Iftikhaar's absurd behavior when he was about to be fired some time earlier - which no self respecting professional needs to resort to in order to keep his seat, but this dork apparently did. The courts are terrible and corrupt, and anyone who can't see that as contributing to the problem have massive issues.
People have been harping on about how our judiciary is not free, but who do you think is accepting bribes and not making decisions independent of other forces in the country? Its not like the judicial halls have their own disobedient minds. Its these judges that need to go.
If you have evidence of Justices being bribe than prove it. Otherwise you accusations have no merit whatsoever. However, one this is clear. Mushrraf has been getting billions to kill our own people. Where are those billions going? Not to the poor people of Pakistan who cannot even afford basic necessities of life. So, its safe to say most of the $$$ he is getting from the west are most likely in his Swiss accounts. Only time will tell.
I don’t think thats really funny b/c this man is bulldozing every national institution to keep himself in the power. The nations survive on institutions and not on individuals. Someone will take out Mushrraf that much is guaranteed, but w/o institutions the nation will crumble and turn into another Somalia or Afghanistan. I’m not sure if this what you and other Mushrraf lovers really want.
of course he is being criticized from all angles, but i would just like to ask, what were his options? no country can sit and do nothing while its soldiers are capture and killed by those who have made jihad on pakistan.
i think he cannot allow the country to sink deeper in to anarchy, without serious risk of direct u.s. intervention.
Dear PCG..you dont even know ..which "progreesive" projects SC dec;lared illegal...!!!!!
all tose ...fraud...black money...projects..started by mostlt ministers ...of cheeni chor...aata chor...steel chor...Stock Exchange chor..NAB zadai projects....
and plz...no SC judge can ever think to take bribe....its not the SC of US ..which accepts order of 3rd secretary of Pentagon...not to hear any case against GITMO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear PCG..you dont even know ..which "progreesive" projects SC dec;lared illegal...!!!!!
all tose ...fraud...black money...projects..started by mostlt ministers ...of cheeni chor...aata chor...steel chor...Stock Exchange chor..NAB zadai projects....
and plz...no SC judge can ever think to take bribe....its not the SC of US ..which accepts order of 3rd secretary of Pentagon...not to hear any case against GITMO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So how was x-CJ son affording BMW when x-CJ was judge in Balochistan high court? If CJ was innocent, why CJ was so worried about investigation on his corruption, nepotism, and misuse of power? Why he did not cleared himself of these allegations? President did gave him chance to clear himself as he did not sacked CJ but suspended him and asked Supreme Judicial Council to investigate CJ while CJ was asked to defend himself.
It is obvious that only a corrupt and thief would try to hinder such investigation and it clearly shows that x-CJ is guilty of all allegations on him, that is of corruption, nepotism and misuse of powers.
OH can the supporters of so called liberal and progressive policies of Musharraf and critical of SC point out one judgement of the SC that was supra constitutional or beyond their mandate? There was none! Mush was scared of loosing power thats all! We are not fools! He came last night and repeated the whole drama that he did when he cam,e to power in 1999, if everything is still in jepoardy he should have resigned out of shame if nothing else that he has not been able to do anything for the stability of the country in 8 years, he expects us to give him more time? What for? To enjoy absolute power? That he only uses to save his kursi?
Supreme Court did not do anything that was against its mandate, not even a single decision. The truth is for the first time in its history SC did what it was suppose to do and the the general without legitimacy did not like it and felt endangered! That is all. If anyone has gone beyond his mandate its Musharraf and no body else!
and this shameless creature named Musharraf csays he does eveything keeping in mind "sub sey pehley pakistan' well i think his mom has nick named him Pakistan, so he does everything keeping in mind sub sey pehley Pakistan aka Musharraf. I mean no shame left in him?
And wo ho now we can even crticise him he is self proclaimed GOD who can't be talked against as there is a new ordinance now......all these actions prove nothing but the fact that he is wrong and he knows it so he does not want people to talk about it :)
^ I am sure they have. Question is will they be motivated enough to ask their party workers to stage protests on the streets...
Exactly, these are crocodile tears, I have no 'expectation' that they would even send one "sector/unit" on streets to protest.... well may be they would, after all sacrifice of 150 was possible too.
and this shameless creature named Musharraf csays he does eveything keeping in mind "sub sey pehley pakistan' well i think his mom has nick named him Pakistan, so he does everything keeping in mind sub sey pehley Pakistan aka Musharraf. I mean no shame left in him?
And wo ho now we can even crticise him he is self proclaimed GOD who can't be talked against as there is a new ordinance now......all these actions prove nothing but the fact that he is wrong and he knows it so he does not want people to talk about it :)
Benazir "Swiss Bank" Bhutto, the only billionaire from Pakistan, also looted us for Pakistan. The benvolence of these high n mighty rulers.
OH can the supporters of so called liberal and progressive policies of Musharraf and critical of SC point out one judgement of the SC that was supra constitutional or beyond their mandate? There was none! Mush was scared of loosing power thats all! We are not fools! He came last night and repeated the whole drama that he did when he cam,e to power in 1999, if everything is still in jepoardy he should have resigned out of shame if nothing else that he has not been able to do anything for the stability of the country in 8 years, he expects us to give him more time? What for? To enjoy absolute power? That he only uses to save his kursi?
Supreme Court did not do anything that was against its mandate, not even a single decision. The truth is for the first time in its history SC did what it was suppose to do and the the general without legitimacy did not like it and felt endangered! That is all. If anyone has gone beyond his mandate its Musharraf and no body else!
When you wrote progressive and liberal policies of Musharraf, it seems that you do not know much about Islam. Actually Musharraf policies is what Islam ask head of state to do, that is to stop fitna (that AQ, Taliban, retarded terrorists Fazlullah, and their likes are spreading) and allow citizens living in the country to practice religion and their beliefs without fear of persecution (not getting forced related to religion).
As for extra judicial rulings from Supreme Court, there are many. To give you few examples, Supreme court ruling and asking government to appoint Rashid nephew as naib imam of lal-masjid (who gave Supreme Court right to appoint anyone on government jobs?). Supreme Court ruling on painting of lal masjid (who gave Supreme Court right to decide what colour government paints a building that belong to them), Supreme Court ruling that government should build Madrasa-e-hafsa and appoint Rashid wife as principal there, even though that madrasa was built on illegally occupied land (On the other hand, who gave this right to Supreme Court that what government does with madrasa that belongs to government and who government appoints in madrasa). Etc etc etc.
Well, these are but few of ridiculous ruling of Supreme Court and unwanted interference of Supreme Court with running of government.
When you wrote progressive and liberal policies of Musharraf, it seems that you do not know much about Islam. Actually Musharraf policies is what Islam ask head of state to do, that is to stop fitna (that AQ, Taliban, retarded terrorists Fazlullah, and their likes are spreading) and allow citizens living in the country to practice religion and their beliefs without fear of persecution (not getting forced related to religion).
As for extra judicial rulings from Supreme Court, there are many. To give you few examples, Supreme court ruling and asking government to appoint Rashid nephew as naib imam of lal-masjid (who gave Supreme Court right to appoint anyone on government jobs?). Supreme Court ruling on painting of lal masjid (who gave Supreme Court right to decide what colour government paints a building that belong to them), Supreme Court ruling that government should build Madrasa-e-hafsa and appoint Rashid wife as principal there, even though that madrasa was built on illegally occupied land (On the other hand, who gave this right to Supreme Court that what government does with madrasa that belongs to government and who government appoints in madrasa). Etc etc etc.
Well, these are but few of ridiculous ruling of Supreme Court and unwanted interference of Supreme Court with running of government.
With all due respect Musharraf's very rule negates all that Islam stands for so please don't bring Islam in :)
