EMERGENCY IMPOSED IN PAKISTAN

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mushy needs to go. simple as that. how he goes...doesn't matter. he cannot hold a whole nation hostage to further his own agenda and hunger for power. i've always maintained that this moron will stop at nothing to stay in power and now declaring emergency is the desperate act of a desperate man. he will destroy whatever is left of pakistan.

as for terrorists, he gave them ample time, means and reasons to grow. he never was sincere in getting rid of them and will never be. dead men tell no tales. so all he does is have the army kill innocent civilians, label them terrorists and get rewards from USA. who will get rid of his source of income? no terrorists mean no money & support from USA. he will never let this happen.stable pakistan is not in his best interests. nation itself can go to hell and now he will lead them to one.

Where are they now?????
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Strong statement from the US. I hope it follows by strong sanctions on junta including Mushrraf and baring his crones from traveling abroad.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/003200711040340.htm

US, Britain denounce Emergency in Pakistan

Washington/London (PTI): The United States and Britain on Saturday denounced imposition of Emergency in Pakistan saying this is not only a “sharp setback” for democracy but also took that country off the path towards stability and civilian rule.

“The United States is deeply disturbed by reports that Pakistani President Musharraf has taken extra-constitutional actions and has imposed a state of emergency”, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said in a statement.

He said “a state of Emergency would be a sharp setback for Pakistani democracy and takes Pakistan off the path toward civilian rule”.

“President Musharraf has stated repeatedly that he will step down as Chief of Army Staff before re-taking the presidential oath of office and has promised to hold elections by January 15th. We expect him to uphold these commitments and urge him to do so immediately”, McCormach said.

“The United States stand with the people of Pakistan in supporting a democratic process and in countering violent extremism. We urge all parties to work together to complete the transition to democracy and civilian rule without violence or delay”, the spokesman said.

In London, British Foreign Secretary David Miliban expressed grave concern over declaration of a state of Emergency saying the country’s future depended on ensuring the rule of law.

“I am gravely concerned by the measures adopted today, which will take Pakistan further from these goals”, he said in a statement.

“We recognize the threat to peace and security faced by the country but its future rests on harnessing the power of democracy and the rule of law to achieve the goals of stability, development and countering terrorism,” Miliband said.

He said he would raise his concerns with the Pakistani Foreign Minister and encouraged all parties in the south Asian country to show restraint.

“All friends of Pakistan will be concerned by the turn of events today,” Miliband said.

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Quite honestly, if there was ever an excellent opportunity to cleanse Pakistan of scumbag extremists - it is NOW....the Goverment has absolute freedom and Mushy, of course, is the President-cum-COAS.

Under a democratic setup - I don't see people like Benazir, Sharif etc ever being free enough to take tough decisions.

So Musharaff can either make the most of this situation - walk the talk - or ruin it forever for Pakistan.

So bottomline - this is a momentous occasion for Pakistan (and by extension for its neigbors - including India).

odd much?
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He was the one who let these people fester. If only he had thought of our national interest we would not have ended up today in this situation.

Some of the things he said are laughable:

  • CJ taking action against govt officials and policemen is not good and while it might be popular in the public the govt cannot operate like this. What he is saying let the corruption and police ziaydatee run rampant. No one should complain against them. He can order the police to crush processions but if the people complain against it, than it is not good. :rolleyes:
  • He said to to him it is “sub say pehlay Pakistan” what he meant was “Sub say pehlay mein”.
  • tried to justify his inaction on lal masjid. Again lied and did not acknowledge that he was using the masjid issue to divert attention form the CJ issue.
  • Said CJ issue created problems as lawyers took to the street. Forgot to tell people his action in Karachi in May.
    Overall the message was clear, I will stay as president of Pakistan whether it is in the interest of the country or not.

And the height of stupidity and embarrassment was when he started begging to the west to leave him in power.

he forgot to mention whether he will take his wardi off on 15 Nov or when?

Also not a word about when he will hold elections in the country.

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how did he give them space to grow?

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I can understand the reason for this emergency-cum-martial law. Martial Law was declared so that constitution can be suspended and thus take new oath from judges. The way Supreme Court was acting, I don’t think it was possible for government to function properly. Probably many in executive and military was getting frustrated and since Musharraf was trying to honour Supreme court decisions, to extend that CJ was releasing all terrorists and every day calling executives to court and threatening, still President was not acting with heavy hand against CJ, this situation means no one was willing to act against terrorist even when terrorists were literally slaughtering people (cutting their throat).

Obviously, under law government cannot shoot anyone even if they are murderer, rather arrest them and take them to court where court give decision and that means if any government functionaries acting against these Taliban, they risk getting called by court. So, President neutralized that threat so that action can be taken against terrorists and also Supreme Court is stopped to act in creating problem in running the country. Getting terrorists Release whoever government arresting and calling security personals to answer the arrest was unacceptable (as obviously any arrest has to come through court orders, but when it comes to national security, arrest can happen anywhere in the world).

Just imagine Supreme Court was interfering with government day to day work, even where they have no right. For instance, Supreme Court pushed government to appoint Rasheed nephew as Naib-Imam and result was that this idiot was giving BS fatwa against Pakistan army and was praising those fighting Pakistan and Pakistan army in Swat and Waziristan. Later Supreme Court gave order to government to paint the red mosque red (cannot understand what it is to do with Supreme Court to do that). I could not understand what right Supreme Court has to order any appointment in government job (naib imam of government mosque is government job) or order the colour of any building that belongs to government. What right Supreme Court has to order government to open a Madrasa and appoint wife of Rasheed as principle there?

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Dude ppl in pakistani are turning into extremists because of mush's policy.

Its like "dain"(<--urdu word) eating its own child.
mush give birth to them------ kill them
|> mush give birth to them------ kill them
|>mush give birth to them------ kill them

In order to break this cycle we need to get rid of mush.

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Thats where he is getting his pay check and that is where he will retired with his son Billal. So, what the west say matters. You cant ignore your boss.

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its all hot air and nothing else.this madman will continue to get rewards and blessing from USA as long as he is willing to supply them with dead bodies labeled as terrorists. USA supported saddam fully and see where that led iraq to. if pakistani ppl didn’t stop this madman from prolonging his stay in power then there is no doubt a 2nd iraq is not too far.

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Sir ji, we are talking about a dictatorship where politicians are kept on house arrest and where people are Pakistan are kept hostage in their own country n houses. This is legal, while you are not allowed to kill murderers, terrorists etc? Doesn't make much sense to me.

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I hope ISI picks you up from your house, and your family won't ever know where you disappeared.
This is the kind of rule you are for.

Fighting Taleban is not the issue here. The issue is the sacking of Supreme Court judges who had decided that Musharraf's presidency is unlawful.

Fighting Taleban is a mere excuse.

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Mushkil hai ab ham west main hain hony na dain gy aysa:fifa:

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Well, ok ... then if security force fire and kill a masked terrorist in Wazaristan, what would you call that? It would be unconstitutional and unlawful killing because his highness CJ did not approved that, right? Surely that person acted without any law as there is no law that security force can shoot at citizen, however bad that citizen maybe, thus those that would dare to kill this terrorist would get punished by Supreme Court, right? So, if security personals are throwing arms and not fighting terrorists because patron of terrorist is CJ of Pakistan, it might be fine with you, not with many.

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We understand what you understand b/c you understand Mushraf better, and no one has better understanding than you when its comes to understanding $$$$. :)

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by ignoring the frontier province when they were settling down. In 1999-2000, all these wahabis from saudia were coming to pak and making illegal madrasas and stuff in the frontier province and he was all quite, he never took any actions against them, if he had stopped them at that time, we wouldn't have this problem of extremism today.

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I am no Musharaff supporter. I am not even a Pakistani.

But I am curious...if you really think.... that if democracy (in its pure form) were to be restored in Pakistan - the "extremism" situation in Pakistan would improve.

Under a democratic setup - tough decisions are much harder to take. And the current situation in Pakistan warrants tough decisions. That is all I am saying.

Musharaff may be an a-hole - but really I don't see any better alternatives.

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What a situation ... if a person is working in armed forces and if kills these terrorist than in trouble from Supreme Court and if not than be in trouble from terrorist. What a retarded thinking that is.

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God....one of the most embarrassing moments.....did he lose his mind....begging USA so openly.....what was need of doing it publicly.....

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actually security forces/army had killed more civilians than so-called masked terrorists. so it is a crime to murder civilians and there is a law against it and CJ is for that law only. also CJ was personally taking interest in missing persons cases which had direct implications on mushy. that was the very reason CJ was sacked by mushy to begin with. so who is breaking the law here then? mushy who is kidnapping his own civilians...killing his own people...making deals with corrupt and killer politicians...all this for what? to stay in power bcos his man has gone mad. a mad man might be ok for you but not for those with sanity.

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Aap ko bura laag giya tou I am sorry :) ... I did not write that my understanding is better than yours. Who knows, you might have better understanding. I just tried to understand and concluded. If that is a problem for some, I could not do much :).