Musharraf has declared Dogar to be to chief justice, and former Justice Saeeduz Zaman has called this action absolutely unconstitutional, and he says that there is no law in Pakistan now.
“One man has taken the entire nation hostage … Time has come for General Musharraf to go,” he said. Fellow lawyers shouted “Go Musharraf Go” as Mr. Ahsan was taken away by police.
im sorry, the jihadi stuff is just a smokescreen. CJ wasnt going to Swat to give Fazlullah tips. Musharraf's leadership in swat has been massively ineffective, and none of his incompetance has anything to do with Supreme Court. What CJ did represent was a threat to his nice little stranglehold on the Kingdom of Pakistan.
If anything, I see this massively supportive to the jihadies. There was a slim support amongst the civilians for tackling the jihadies, BECAUSE there is a civilian outlet for acting against the govt. By closing down those avenues, hes going to alienate the civil society even more, and is probably helping the jihadi recruitment.
im betting there are a lot, lot more people who wish now one of those jihadies is succesful against musharraf.
the whole missing persons case driven by the cj is about jehadis. missing person campaign is driven by jehadi leaders. the jehadis dont get convicted by courts because jehadis organisations either threaten violence or buy off judges. only a couple of weeks back, akram lahori, one of the most notorious sectarian killers was released by sind high court.
as i said earlier, if bombs suicide bombers were going off in d.c. every week, there would be emergency in the u.s.
If anything, I see this massively supportive to the jihadies. There was a slim support amongst the civilians for tackling the jihadies, BECAUSE there is a civilian outlet for acting against the govt. By closing down those avenues, hes going to alienate the civil society even more, and is probably helping the jihadi recruitment.
im betting there are a lot, lot more people who wish now one of those jihadies is succesful against musharraf.
Very true. OBL and his buddies should be very happy.
this is from few weeks back. also courts have also released people said to be involved in suicide attacks against musharraf and shaukat aziz.:
The Sindh High Court (SHC) on Thursday acquitted three activists of the banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi party of sectarian killing charges and set aside their capital punishment awarded to them by the Anti Terrorism Court (ATC) in April 2003. Mohammad Ajmal alias Akram Lahori, Mohammad Azam and Attaullah were sentenced to death by the ATC for killing Anwer Tirmizi and Zufiqar Haider on March 11, 2002 in the Shah Faisal Colony area Karachi.
all this drama to oust majority of the Supreme court judges ..let the Waziristan militants deal with the army as no one else in Pakistan has the guts to stand up to this monstrous entity. The only thing Pakistan armed forces is capable of doing is to blatantly rape, plunder and destroy Pakistan
king faisal: tackling bombings and suicide bombing could still be done w/o the blacout on media, and sacking of judges. how is this emergency going to help solve the problem of miltancy? i would say its only going to have the oppistie effect
the whole missing persons case driven by the cj is about jehadis. missing person campaign is driven by jehadi leaders. the jehadis dont get convicted by courts because jehadis organisations either threaten violence or buy off judges. only a couple of weeks back, akram lahori, one of the most notorious sectarian killers was released by sind high court.
as i said earlier, if bombs suicide bombers were going off in d.c. every week, there would be emergency in the u.s.
but bombs don't go off in d.c because they are not ruled by military dictator who use every oppprtunity to keep themselves in power..
the whole missing persons case driven by the cj is about jehadis. missing person campaign is driven by jehadi leaders. the jehadis dont get convicted by courts because jehadis organisations either threaten violence or buy off judges. only a couple of weeks back, akram lahori, one of the most notorious sectarian killers was released by sind high court.
as i said earlier, if bombs suicide bombers were going off in d.c. every week, there would be emergency in the u.s.
any basis for saying that? the closest things we have to that in the west is Israel and UK, where bombs used to go off regularly in the centres of the country. Was "emergency"/martial law ever imposed at those points.
Rahi baat akram lahori ki, you're right hes a sectarian killer. hes famous for his anti-shia activities, NOT related to the stuff thats going on in WANA and swat. when there was no emergency imposed when he was going around gunning shias down 6 years ago, can you suspend belief so much as to think they'd do it now?
Can you name any terorrist leader whos been involved in WANA/swat who was released? If not then explain how CJ was impacting this war. Anyone the judiciary has released is through legal orders, which are also public and reported.
He was not one of those "missing persons" that are related to the WOT, his activities are almost pre-9/11. Give me anyone who got released and was subsequently involved in heinous activities (as the declaration says)
look at how thatcher dealt with ira. specifically, she passed legislation in the mid-80's which prevented ira leaders from coming on tv. in contrast, our tv gives full exposure to jehadis like ghazi even when they are killing pak fauj in cold blood.
also the missing persons case is being driven by the wife of self proclaimed bin laden supporters. cj is jumping on jehadi bandwagon because jehadis are popular with the awam.
look at how thatcher dealt with ira. specifically, she passed legislation in the mid-80's which prevented ira leaders from coming on tv. in contrast, our tv gives full exposure to jehadis like ghazi even when they are killing pak fauj in cold blood.
Then PEMRA could have stopped TV channels. Why declare emergency and suspend the supreme court?
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also the missing persons case is being driven by the wife of self proclaimed bin laden supporters. cj is jumping on jehadi bandwagon because jehadis are popular with the awam.
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It does not matter who is driving it. What matters is whether it is constitutional for government to kidnap people.
look at how thatcher dealt with ira. specifically, she passed legislation in the mid-80's which prevented ira leaders from coming on tv. in contrast, our tv gives full exposure to jehadis like ghazi even when they are killing pak fauj in cold blood.
so is that emergency/martial law? you've been claiming several times that the same would happen in any other country, would you retract that statement?
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also the missing persons case is being driven by the wife of self proclaimed bin laden supporters. cj is jumping on jehadi bandwagon because jehadis are popular with the awam.
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Im sorry, but i KNOW someone who IS a missing person. i know his friends and family camp around the area, and he has nothing to do with the wife of anyone. While there may be some terrorists apprehended, theres innocent people picked up too, and the Supreme Court IS the right legal avenue for those complaints. Would you prefer the families of those people blowing themselves up in market places instead?
if they are terrorists, NAME them. tell us who the CJ had released, and what they were doing in Waziristan and Swat.
look at how thatcher dealt with ira. specifically, she passed legislation in the mid-80's which prevented ira leaders from coming on tv. in contrast, our tv gives full exposure to jehadis like ghazi even when they are killing pak fauj in cold blood.
also the missing persons case is being driven by the wife of self proclaimed bin laden supporters. cj is jumping on jehadi bandwagon because jehadis are popular with the awam.
Have you read the emergency proclamation? The only target is the judiciary, not a single word about the role of media in this war against terrorism...
Then PEMRA could have stopped TV channels. Why declare emergency and suspend the supreme court?
It does not matter who is driving it. What matters is whether it is constitutional for government to kidnap people.
sorry, more important than the constitution is the safety of pakistanis. pakistan is under attack by jehadis and govt's responsibilty is to tackle the threat. govt cant fight this fight with both hands tied behind its back as done by supreme court.
..let the Waziristan militants deal with the army as no one else in Pakistan has the guts to stand up to this monstrous entity. The only thing Pakistan armed forces is capable of doing is to blatantly rape, plunder and destroy Pakistan