ELME TORIKAT & HOW TO ACQUIRE THAT ?

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[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE**[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]
**[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]ELME TARIKAT[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]

It is such a knowledge/Philosophy without which it is impossible to lead life as per Shariat (Rules of Islam). The knowledge required to lead the life as per Shariat and to get closer to Allah and to achieve the love of Allah, overcoming all the hindrances and adversity those appears in following the rules -regulation of Shariat, is known as Elme Tarikat.
2. In all four stages of knowledge bad influences of Nafs is there.
In the stage of Shariat :- Nafs influences to work against Shariat.
In the stage of Tarikat :- Nafs influences to claim for Nabuwat / Belayet.
In the stage of Marifat :- Nafs influences to claim partnership and claim ownself as God being enlighten by the noor(light) of Allah.
In the stage of Hakikat:- There is no entry of Iblish Shaitan, Nafs and Feresta (Angels).
As such, at this stage (Hakikat) a man become perfect man becoming saved from the influences of all enemy. As such in all stages we have to struggle against the Iblish and Nafs to become perfect man and reach the stage of Hakikat and finally to reach the final destination the Didar-e-Elahi ( Meeting Allah).
3. Human bad habits like Sex, Anger, Greed etc. can not be destroyed without the lustre (noor) of Allah. Similarly stupidity and foolishness is not removed without the Marifat ( Hidden Knowledge) of Allah .
Allah teaches without any media through his Elme Ladunni (Hidden /Invisible Knowledge) and by dint of that knowledge men can earn knowledge about Allah , offer prayer, can see the pious Ruhus and know prophet Mohammad (sm). He can discuss with the Ferestas, Poigambar (Prophet), and Hazrat Mohammad (sm). As a result they give the good news of the ‘Bisale Abdi’ ( Ever Lasting Meeting).
4. If an Alem (learned man) read thousands of books but cannot acquire knowledge of ‘Hidden Elm’ , he will not be known as Alem. Man cannot acquire the Spiritual Power / Ruhaniat by Jaheri Elm (ExternalKnowledge). This category of Alem (Alem without Spiritual knowledge) will only gain Heaven. Jaheri Elm will not reach the Holy Herem Sharif ( Place of getting closer to Allah). So they will be deprived from getting proximity/closeness of Allah. As a bird cannot fly without two wings, similarly the Alem (learned man) who will not be in possession of both Jaheri (External) and Bateni (Hidden ) knowledge , he will not be able to reach the Monjile Maaksud
( Closeness to Allah)/will not be able to get closer to Allah.
5. He who will acquire the Jaheri & Batini Elm and in line with those he will offer prayer to Allah with devotion , he will get place in the stage of closeness with Allah . Allah has mentioned, “ Halo my men! If you desire to enter my Herem , then do not look to any of the Mulk (Earthy Life), Malakut and Jabarut. The reason for that is :
Mulk (Earthy) is the enemy of Alem (Learned),
Malakut (Life after death) is the enemy of Aref ( Spiritualist) and Jabarut is enemy of the islamic theologist (Woli Allah).
Those who will be attracted to these three world they will be deprived from getting in closeness to Allah. However , they will not be deprived from getting status /rank. Those who are really for getting closeness of Allah , Almighty Allah the greatest has kept such gift in return which have not been seen, heard, felt by anybody. In the Herem of Allah there is no blessing of Hoor (Beautiful Lady), Gelmon (Beautiful young boys), and other favors of heaven. There is only ever wanted thing Didar-e-Elahi- Meeting of Mawla Allah Subhanahu Taala.

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[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]Lesson 25

[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]HOW TO ACQUIRE THIS ELME BATIN**[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]
**[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]Elme Batin can only be achieved through taking lesson from those people (Woli Allah / Murshed) who are knowledgeable about Elme Jaher, Elme Batin and about the mystery of Alam -e- Malakut and who are farsighted. The stages of this system are:
a. Bring faith accordingly as mentioned by Allah Rabbul Alamin in the holy Quran. b. Perform the Ibadat (prayer) as per rules & regulations of Shariat (Islam).
c. Repent whole heartedly for the sinful acts done earlier and take Bayat (promise to follow Islam properly & refrain from sinful act in future) from a Holy man (Woli Allah) and continue to try to rectify own falt for self purification take lesson for that.
d. Earn knowledge about Elme Jaher / Shariat and perform prayer in combination with Elme Shariat and Elme Batin as taught by Morshed (Spiritual teacher).
e. Always remain happy to the wish / decision ( every happening ) of Allah and lead life and devote to the Ibadat (prayers of All types) of Allah with the hope of getting blessings of Allah and subsequently Didar-e-Elahi (Meeting Allah).

[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]WHAT IS ELME TARIKAT AND WHAT IS ITS NECESSITY**[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]
**[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]It has already been discussed . Here we will try to clarify again. There are some impediments / hindrances (viz. Sex-passion, anger, greed, infatuation, vanity and envy, expectation, etc.) in following the rules and regulations of Shariat. The special means which is followed for leading life fully as per Shariat, overcoming those impediments / hindrances is known as TARIKAT. Tarikat is an arduous practice and life long struggle. Struggle in remaining away from the influences of the enemies Nafs-e Ammara ( as mentioned above) , Iblish, Jinn and bad man ; as mentioned in Sura Naas. Those enemies give harmful advice to the heart of the man and try to push them towards the wrong and evil path. Hard struggle is required to remain safe from those evil counseling ,otherwise it becomes difficult to keep Iman (faith /belief) and Amal (practice) properly. The way of this struggle as set by those who are closer & friendly to Allah is known as Tarikat. About this struggle Prophet Mohammad (sm) has said, “ We have returned to comparatively strong Jihad (Struggle against Nafs-e- Ammara) from the comparatively weaker Jihad (A holy war).” - (Al Hadis ) Huzur (sm) has said, “ Amongst your enemies great enemy is your Nafs/Ripu (six inherent /cardinal passions of man) and that is situated on the middle of your both ribs.” ( Al Hadis ).
NAFS There are three types of Nafs.
Nafs -e- Ammara,
Nafs -e- Lawama ,
and Nafs-e-Mutmayenna.
Nafs-e-Ammara: It is very dirty, worst, and sinful. As such always try to provocate for doing sinful work. It does not repent after doing sin. It is uncultured, shameless and immodest.
Nafs-e-Lawama: It is a bit modest and pious. As such it can identify good and bad. If it does any wrong , then & then it repent for that and self reproach is created.
Nafs-e-Mutmayenna: This is educated and perfectly pious. It never does any wrong and sin. It becomes visible due to enlightening by luster of Allah.
Until and unless the internal enemy (six inherent passions of man) is controlled, a man cannot become pious and achieve the Mohabbat (Love/Friendship) of Allah. It is not possible to become favorite to Allah unless a man make his Nafs(Desires) free from bad habits including Excess drinking & Eating, Excess talking, Excess sleeping, Anger, Hot temper, Calling names and fighting/ animal behavior, Speaking ill of others( Gibat), Illegal sexual desire, Greed, Misery, Telling lie, Enmity, Envy, Proud ness, Hate etc. These are the companions of Nafs -e- Ammara.
Following any ‘Tarikat’ is essential for controlling these bad practices/ habits. Prophet Hazrat Mohammad (sm ) has said, “ Shariat is my Kawol (Basis), Tarikat is my Aamal (Practice) and Hakikat is my Haal. (Situation ). ( Al Hadis).
NB: From this Hadis it is easily understood that practicing & following the rules-regulation of Shariat properly is called Tarikat.
If we go into depth, we see that in Hadis-e-Kudsi Allah says:
“ Al Insanu Sirri Wa Ana Sirrahu.”- Mankind is my mystery and I am mysterious to mankind.
Allah Rabbul Alamin also mentioned, “ Hidden knowledge is one of my mystery ,which I have bestowed in the ‘Kalb’ of my obedient followers and nobody except aware about that mystery’’. So Tarikat is the process of establishing the relation between Almighty Allah Subhanahu Taala by discovering the mystery between Allah and his mankind.

**[font=‘Trebuchet MS’]Huzur (sm) has said, “ Maan Arafa Nafsahu Fakad Arafa Rabbahu”. **

[font=Times New Roman]To know the identity of Allah Rabbul Alamin , get the identity of yourself.
[font=Times New Roman]Allah has said, “ Mankind is my mystery. So it is not easy to understand this mystery’’. Oh my Lord Allah! Please show me the truth correctly and give me capability to find out that. Which is not truth, please also show that and give me the strength to refrain from that.

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Tarikat, as I know, is to follow a way of life under the guidance of some reliable scholars. He can be a Wali Allah or a mujaddid. What do you say? I heard that every 100 years comes a mujaddid. Do you know who and where is the mujaddid of this time is.

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Yes Torikat is learned from Wali Allah. There are Lot of Woli Allah. AWlias have classification. Like the Normal Education there are stages of Tasauf Education also. So all Awlias are not of same class/stage. But they can teach Torika.
If you have gone through my writings you will find the stages of Awlias.
My shaikh is Shah Sufi Morshedana Alhaj Kazi Mohammad Abul Ula (mza).
He is from Potia, Bangladesh.
I am a Khadem of Torikae Mojaddedia.

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And will you tell me, what is your shaikh's teachings.

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I stopped reading after “bad habits like sex”, please come up with something better, some better classification for it. As for your “special note”, you are posting it on a forum so discuss it here rather than “email” :slight_smile:

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I agree. Email address has been removed.

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Almighty has warned in Quran about illegal Sex. I have just quoted. You stop reading seeing that. Have I done any Sin.?
When people use bad words to our Prophet & Even to Allah subhanahu Taala, you as Moderator publish that & read that and don’t feel embarased. You publish in details about Polygamy in Hinduism teaches polygamy/Polyandry ( http://www.paklinks.com/gs/images/misc/multipage.gif 1 2 ) Lahore 981
How fun. Really surprising behavior.
Hazrat 'A’isha reported Allaah’s Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) as saying: The most despicable amongst persons in the eye of Allaah is one who tries to fall into dispute with others (for nothing but only to display his knowledge and power of argumentation).
Moderators / Chief /Captain whoever you are, please don’t be proud of your position and don’t try to insult anyone without valid reason. Mind it you are to explain to Almighty Allah Subhanahu Taala for each deed. Allah has mentioned in Quran & warned about illegal sex. I have mentioned about bad habits of human and it has hurt you!

  1. They ask you about menstruation: say, “It is harmful; you shall avoid sexual intercourse with the women during menstruation; do not approach them until they are rid of it. Once they are rid of it, you may have intercourse with them in the manner designed by Allah. Allah loves the repenters, and He loves those who are clean.” [Bakara: 2:222]
  2. You shall not commit adultery; it is a gross sin, and an evil behavior. Bani Israil17:32]
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Yes, you have sinned, first you called “Sex” as “bad habit”, now you are saying that you were talking about “illegal sex”, there is a big difference, so please clear up your mind or text on what you want to say. I agree that illegal sex is a sin and no one should indulge in. Be careful in what you say, re-read what you write.

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ur original post only said sex, not illegal sex....

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Forget it and forgive the sin. Petty mistakes happens, just don't jump the guns. It must have been a slip of tongue sorry I mean finger.

Now lets get back to "elm" .

bd syed, will you please tell us more about elm and some of your sheikh teachings and advizes?

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so a person that attains elme tarikat will have no desire for bodily pleasures? such as the will to be rewarded with hoors in the afterlife? and they will automatically reach a point where all they desire is didar-e-elahi?

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ahh.. ha.......... why peck on petty mistakes. to err is human.

Did you know that we are going out of topic.

Try 2 understand what bd syed has to say. The saying goes : If you want to be a good debater, first you should learn how to listen.

if you don't listen how will you understand him.

If you dont let him say, just bcoz of some silly mistakes, how will you understand his motive behind starting this thread.

Hope this discussion goes peacefully. After all we are discussing here, not 2 find mistakes of one another, but to know the truth, evaluate and rectify ourself.

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^^ i was referring to this part of bsyed's quote

"Those who are really for getting closeness of Allah , Almighty Allah the greatest has kept such gift in return which have not been seen, heard, felt by anybody. In the Herem of Allah there is no blessing of Hoor (Beautiful Lady), Gelmon (Beautiful young boys), and other favors of heaven. There is only ever wanted thing Didar-e-Elahi- Meeting of Mawla Allah Subhanahu Taala."

im just asking what he meant by that.

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Not really, I have read texts which regard ‘sex’ as bad or a negative desire, something which should be ‘rejected’ to stay pure thats why I raised the issue not just to score points on petty mistakes.

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First it was mentined Bad Habit like sex etc. Then in Next paragraph it was "There are some impediments / hindrances (viz. Sex-passion, anger, greed, infatuation, vanity and envy, expectation, etc.) in following the rules and regulations of Shariat.".

Then it was mentioned, "Until and unless the internal enemy (six inherent passions of man) is controlled, a man cannot become pious and achieve the Mohabbat (Love/Friendship) of Allah. It is not possible to become favorite to Allah unless a man make his Nafs(Desires) free from bad habits including Excess drinking & Eating, Excess talking, Excess sleeping, Anger, Hot temper, Calling names and fighting/ animal behavior, Speaking ill of others( Gibat), Illegal sexual desire, Greed, Misery, Telling lie, Enmity, Envy, Proud ness, Hate etc. These are the companions of Nafs -e- Ammara.
If you can't see that is not my fault. Discussion was about ELME MARIFAT> NOt of Sex. You are deviating from subject matter. If there is a mistake as a Muslim you could mail me just to correct it. So try to rectify yourself. In your language you have given Fatwah that I have committed Sin saying Sex as Bad Habit.
You are such people who say,' I am a moderate Muslim. I drink but I do not eat pork".
This stupid things which is against Islam you post regularly. I doubt whether you have belief on Quran. Allah has made Drinking Alchohol & Eating Pork Haram. Do you want to make it Halal?
Why don't you remove that signature?
No more discussion on the subject try to rectify ownself. Refrain from giving Fatwa.

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^ ur comments on my signature only prove how much u really understand things.... :)

and in future make it clear that these r sufi teachings that u r posting here and not what Islam really teaches....

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Mashallah, some thoughts you have without knowing me or ARMughal, way to preach SUFISM :k: I am sure you have put all sufis to shame.