Ellsberg Draws Parallels Between Vietnam & Iraq

Could there be another ‘Gulf of Tonkin’ style incident in regards to the dispute with Iraq ? Its very disturbing to think that in 1964, the Johnson Administration utilized a staged incident at the Gulf of Tonkin in order to justify escalation of the war against the North Vietnamese. An article about the incident can be read here](http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/USA/GulfTonkin.html)

Ellsberg draws parallels between Vietnam & Iraq](http://www.pressdemocrat.com/local/news/01ellsberg_b1empireb.html) THE PRESS DEMOCRAT

By MARY CALLAHAN 01 Feb 03

Defense Department analyst who leaked Pentagon Papers fears another Gulf of Tonkin

The man who leaked the Pentagon Papers, exposing deception in the White House during the Vietnam War, said Friday he believes similar revelations from inside the Bush administration might help forestall a war in Iraq. Daniel Ellsberg, a former Defense Department analyst, called a unilateral invasion of Iraq “much more clearly illegal than Vietnam,” and said he wished some government employee would do as he did, only sooner, “which is to go to Congress with crucial documents.”

Ellsberg drew an overflow crowd at Copperfield’s Books in Petaluma, with many people jammed behind and between book stacks, peeking around corners to see him. His impersonation of former President Richard Nixon drew guffaws, but his warnings about parallels between Vietnam and current preparations for war in Iraq silenced the audience of about 200 people. Recalling former President Lyndon Johnson’s covert provocation of a North Vietnamese attack in the Gulf of Tonkin, Ellsberg noted that U.S. planes continue to bomb targets in Iraq.

He bemoaned the Iraqis’ decision to continue shooting at U.S. planes, playing, he said, into the hands of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. “I stand here and have not much doubt that they would welcome the downing of an American plane,” which would allow them to retaliate rather than just invade, he said.

Ellsberg, who is on tour promoting his recently published memoir, “Secrets,” said he feared that another Persian Gulf war would threaten national security by inflaming would-be terrorists and Muslim nations, reducing their willingness to share intelligence. He also said he feared that Bush would initiate the use of nuclear weapons if Iraqi President Saddam Hussein used chemical agents to stave off an invasion, about which Ellsberg said there was little question.

He interspersed his observations on the countdown to war – drawn from his years as a U.S. Marine, nuclear weapon consultant, Defense Department official and analyst with the RAND Corp. – with discussion of his decision to give 7,000 pages of top-secret documents on Vietnam to members of Congress in 1969 and, two years later, to the New York Times. Giving dead-on impressions of Nixon and his national security adviser, Henry Kissinger, Ellsberg read from transcripts of Oval Office tapes about strategies in Vietnam – including a possible nuclear attack.

He also recalled working underground to provide the documents to successive newspapers as each of that 19 newspapers that published the papers was enjoined by federal judges from continuing to print them.Later charged with 12 felony counts of theft and conspiracy, Ellsberg at one point faced 115 years in federal prison. The charges were dropped mid-trial, he said, because of government misconduct against him.

The Harvard-educated Ellsberg got an insider view of war-time deception as special aide to an assistant secretary of defense under Johnson in 1964-65. He then spent two years in Vietnam as an observer for the State Department before moving on to RAND. He consulted for the Defense Department before working there. He rose to fame when the New York Times and then the Washington Post published the Pentagon Papers, a classified study of decision-making on Vietnam from 1945 to 1968.

Though the history concluded the year before he took office, Nixon so feared what Ellsberg might reveal about him that he dispatched the White House “plumbers,” aides involved in political dirty tricks and later the Watergate burglary, who broke into the office of Ellsberg’s psychiatrist in search of blackmail materials.

They would never get away with that sort of thing today,communications being what they are,the truth would be out far too quickly.

Well, this reminds me of the Kuwaiti incubators hoax which was propogated by the previous Bush Administration in order to justify war against Iraq. Many analysts believe it was this that swayed Congress opinion to sanction war. So one can conclude that you cannot rule out the capabilities of the current Administration to fabricate lies or stage similar incidents in order to justify another war.

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Braveheart: *
They would never get away with that sort of thing today,communications being what they are,the truth would be out far too quickly.
[/QUOTE]

The truth always tend to come after the lies have been told, and crimes have been carried out based on those lies. DHP mentioned the fake "incubator" story used as propoganda in the first gulf war, but more recently there was the bombing of a factory in Sudan by the US. American lies were exposed after the bombing, yet we hear no one saying the US was at fault?

I've always admired Ellsberg for the courage he displayed in leaking the Pentagon Papers to the press and for standing up under the enormous government pressure put upon him.

His is a voice of dissent that I am much more likely to take into consideration than guys like Pilger. Also, while he may be opposed to US action in Iraq, at least he starts from the intellectually honest position that he acknowledges Saddam's possession of WMD and the likelihood that Saddam will use them in the coming battle.

"He also said he feared that Bush would initiate the use of nuclear weapons if Iraqi President Saddam Hussein used chemical agents to stave off an invasion, about which Ellsberg said there was little question."