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^ To show unity with our Arab brethrens. That would be the 31’st roza for them tomorrow if ISNA hadn’t announced Eid.
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^ To show unity with our Arab brethrens. That would be the 31’st roza for them tomorrow if ISNA hadn’t announced Eid.
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so we will be celebrating EID for our Arab brotheren? ![]()
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^ That doesn't make any sense at all
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i just called up bunch of mosques around toronto area and majority of them are not celebrating it tommorow..but instead on friday! only arab mosque's such as ISNA is celebrating it tommorow! Celebrating it on friday then!
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You are the only sensible person on here with even a semblance of sense. Everyone here is like a chicken running with its head cut off.
moonsighting never said it was Eid tomorrow. It just reported what ISNA, FIQH council have agreed upon. Look down and read the text under “Sighting Possibilities for Shawwal 1426” and you will see it clearly states that the moon cannot be viewed anywhere in the US even with a telescope.
ISNA accepts sighting within 48 contiguous states of USA and the whole North America is outside all possible visibility curves. So, Eid in North America Eid is expected to be on Friday, November 4, 2005. Similarly, in Europe, Asia, Middle East and Australia, Eid is expected to be on Friday, November 4, 2005, if sighting is the criterion
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Interesting! its on friday then?
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Moonsighting was certain it was not Thursday (the website had a very defensive explanation on it a few hours ago), however ISNA and all associated organizations have said it's Thursday.
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Dope, here is something to enhace your senses (taken from Hilaal Committee Toronto)
THE SIGHTING OF SAUDI ARABIA
The horizon of Saudi Arabia is different than ours here in North America. This is why the senior Muftis and Scholars (Ulama) of Saudi Arabia (Sh. Abdullah bin Baz, Sh. Saleh bin Uthaimeen etc.) have also issued fatwas for the Muslims in North America that we should not follow the sighting of Saudi Arabia but rather follow our local sightings.
(Please see fatwas on the web at: http://www.jas.org.jo/hilaal/).
So if the moon cannot be sighted (scientifically proven fact) then Chicago and ISNA must be high on something so does the followers
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^ well said! thats what i always told those arabs!
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Its the same issue every year in NA. One set of mosques following the Saudia and other set of mosques doing their own sightings. There are always two eids man. Half of my friends celebrate it on one day and the other half on the next day (not because they follow those mullahs, just that its more convenient for them to have the day off for that day or whatever other reason)
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I don't even know why followling Saudi Arabia is even a question here .. every mosque can do their own sightings if they want and if anybody sees it, they just inform others. What's so hard about it? I want to go to sleep =\
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There are other battles to fight and other causes to focus energies on...
Regardless of who celebrates when for what ever reason... Eid Muabarak ... May Allah (SWT) accept your fasting for the month of Ramadan.
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At 9:45 pm, both organizations of muslims in the Bay Area agreed on moon sighting, and therefore tomorrow, November 3, 2005 is Eid ul Fitr.
Eid Mubarak all.
By the way, this is what really tilted the decision in favor of Eid tomorrow:
Chicago Hilal Committee independently confirmed the moon sighting.
**Two Muslim men who live in the north side of Chicago came to the Chicago Hilal Committee meeting at ICC, Chicago and gave their witness of the moon sighting. A third man who saw the moon with the two aforementioned brothers gave his witness by phone. The committee investigated their claim and took their oath by Allah that they saw the moon. The committee deliberated their witness and decided that their claim was valid. Accordingly, the committee has unanimously concluded that tomorrow, Thursday, November 3, 2005 is the 1st day of Shawwal. Ramadan 1426 has ended with 29 days. **
The Chicago Hilal Committee wishes everyone a Happy Eid!
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Who is celebrating on Friday? I know I am.
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Faisal, it was astronomically impossible for these people to see the moon in chicago. If you dont believe me, go to moonsighting.com and see the visibility chart for yourself. Now, for whatever reason, they(website) decided to go against their own statement, is a shame indeed.
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Yeah right! ![]()
So what are names of these two imaginary characters, Ahmed Six Echo and Abdul Two Delta?
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^ are you guys saying it's not tomorrow?
Btw, everyone here is ready for tomorrow's Eid. Most of the masajids have confirmed. I have yet to hear any specifc reasoning .. so I'm assuming they sighted the moon? Lunatic, how up-to-date moonsighting website is?
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~TaNhAyAaN~, these charts dont change overnight. Infact about 4 hrs ago, moonsigthing.com were all but set to declare eid on 4th. I dont know what made them reverse their decision. These chicago folks were able to "see" it through the naked aye, but folks in arizona, where citing should be easier, had to use telescopes.
"The only telescopic sighting claim from Arizona by a reputed astronomer was not strong enough to fulfill the Shariah recquirement of "overwhelming evidence". Out of a group of ten, only he claims to have seen the Moon through the trees and in his own words, "The image of the Crescent Moon was not sharp"."
from moonsighting.net
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After last year's Austin fiasco, Moonsighting's Khalid Shaukat doesn't confront ISNA any more on their faulty rulings. And rather just plays along.
Although this year, the couple in Chicago came forward with their moon sighting claim at 10:25 pm Chicago time. ISNA had announced their decision for Eid on Thursday earlier than that. Most likely other muslim organizations who were balking at ISNA's pre-mature announcement, changed their mind, partly because of muslim unity concerns, and partly because with 2+ muslims giving verified oaths, they don't have much to stand on. I don't think many people in their heart of hearts are convinced that moon was correctly sighted tonight, since overwhelming astronomical data suggests otherwise. Wallah o Aalim.
Lets celebrate Eid tomorrow and move on.
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Agreed
I just hope something good comes out of this years blunder. May Allah forgive those who have missed this one fast.