Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi Mubarak

Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi Mubarak to Muslims and all who love, remember, and respect Prophet (SAW). It is an auspicious day, and I am sure all who are Muslims would be showing joy and celebrating this blessed day with respect, remembering that it was this day/date when Allah gave all humans gift that took many out of ignorance.

According to Quran days Prophets are born (and die) is blessed days, and obviously, since Prophet (SAW) is beloved of Allah, Prophet (SAW) day of birth in this world is most blessed day for entire pious creations of Allah. Prophet (SAW) celebrated this blessed day the way he liked to celebrate, and I believe those who loved Prophet (SAW) from time Prophet (SAW) was born in this world till today, remembers and celebrate this blessed day.

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Beshak. Mubarak ho apko bhi.

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I love, remember and respect Nabi :saw2: but don’t celebrate anything apart from the two Eids.

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I love and respect those who love and respect the holy prophet Muhammad (SAW) ... And for those who observe the remembrance of the birth of Sayyiduna Muhammad (SAW) ... May this occasion be great for spiritual openings for you ... And for those who do not observe this occasion ... I know you love RasoolAllah (SAW) just as much ... not wishing to do things that may resemble innovation or imitation of kufar ...

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Here's what an aalim I know has to say about it:

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Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem.Alhamdulillah as we all probably know that we are in the blessed month of Rabi'ul Awwal in which our beloved Prophet (saw) was born.So we know that many Muslims around the world on the twelveth of this month celebrate the birth of our beloved prophet (saw) which is known by the name of Eid Milad Un Nabi in the subcontinent and Mawlid un Nabi in the Arab world. Now before a Muslim participates in any kind of religious celebration they should ask the question whether or not this was the practice of the prophet (saw) himself or did his companions do any such action or did any of the pious predecessor take part in any such celebration? Eid Milad Un Nabi was not established amongst the Ummah after the time of the prophet until six centuries ( 600 years ) had passed . There was no evidence from the Companions , Tabi’een ,Muhadditheen or Awliya of this Ummah to ever have even thought of performing this act of celebrating the birth of the Prophet . Yet , all of these great personalities had even greater knowledge of the Holy Qur ’ an and Hadith , which the Ahle Bid’ah ‘ use ’ to support their innovated practice. Let's say a person wants to do this out love for the beloved prophet (saw) in that case the question I would ask is that do we really think that after all he did for us (the ummah), just to talk about him once a year and then distribute some sweets is what he deserves? He surely deserves much more than that, he deserves that his community follows every single teaching of his in all aspects of their lives. I would love to continue speaking about the poor understanding of this ummah of their Deen but I would rather just give you the background of this great innovation that is vastly practiced in the Muslim world. This act was first performed by a ruling king, Muzafarudeen Ibn Arbal ( died 630H ) and his friend who was a worldly orientated scholar by the name of Ibn Wahiya Abul Khattab ( died 633H ) , in the Muslim area of Mosul , Iraq in 604 Hijri . ( Dowlul Islam , p104) Imam Ahmed bin Muhammad Misri Maliki ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ writes : ‘ That king ( Muzafarudeen Ibn Arbal ) used to tell the scholars in his time that whatever Ijtihad he would dictate should be adopted and nothing else was to be followed . He managed to select a group from the scholars who were inclined to Duniya to support his view . In this way he started celebrating ‘Milad Un Nabi ’ and he is the 1st person amongst the Muslims kings to create this innovation. ’ ( Al Qawlul Mu ’tamit ) To propagate and spread this Bid’ah further , the king would utilise hundreds of thousands of Dinars from the Muslim treasury . Allamah Dhahabi ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ( died 748H ) stated : ‘ Every year he ( this king ) would spend 300, 000 Dinar on this event . To try to establish proof for this celebration , he commissioned a book written by Ibn Wahiya and for this effort he paid Ibn Wahiya 1000 Dinar in modern day terms . ( Dowlul Islam , p 103- 4 ) Hafiz Ibn Hajar Asqalani ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﻟﻠﻪ stated in respect of Ibn Wahiya : ‘ He would greatly disrespect and dishonour the pious predecessors and scholars of the past . He was foul tongued ( bad language , filthy talk , etc ) extremely proud and foolish individual. He was lazy, narrow minded and unmindful in respect of religious works . ’ (Lisaanul Meezan , vol 4 , p 296) So please understand this message! It is a matter of Deen so please I hope and request all of you to also share this information be rewarded by Allah swt. After reading this whether anyone wants to celebrate this or not, I leave it up to you. وما علينا الاالبلاغ العبد الفقير الي الله محمد معيد العالم مدرس بمعهد الرشيد الإسلامي

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Peace Sa1eem,

See the underlined in quoted phrase.

1- Is it Prophet or Prophets? Please quote the full verse.
2- When did Prophet :saw2: celebrated this blessed day? Any reference please.

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Same old discussion!

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Mawlid is mubah according to the classification I understand ... Which means it has no specific ruling - making it a neutral act. To say it is Fard or Wajib or Mustahab when in fact it is not any of these only then can it be called a bid'ah in the sense of it being an addition to the Deen. For this reason it should be understood that Mawlid is not considered an addition any more than undertaking a yearly halaqah is not considered a bid'ah in shari'ah ...

The celebration or observation of birth or more specifically the life and time that we can focus our love on him (SAW) can be derived from various places for its permissibility ... Such as fasting on Mondays due to the birth of RasoolAllah (SAW) is enough to obtain a basis for the act itself. Empirically Mawlid achieves good ends and it is one of the ways Muslims can gather to remember Allah (SWT) and send salutations on His Prophet (SAW) ...

We do not alienate those who do not see it right to practice this neutral Mawlid act with no bearing on Shari'ah ... but those who wish to say mubtadi' (innovators) to other Muslims will do so on account of spurious claims and vague ideas of what a bid'ah really is ...

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Just a very friendly tip guys, if you are going have another one of those 'discussion' about Milaad, don't bother writing fresh new long essays, just copy and paste your work from last year's threads, if that doesn't help, you can always go year (s) before that.

I thought it might make life a little easier for some. You can always thank me later.

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Peace brother psyah,

This is not true that other Muslims who says it is a innovation or call other Muslim who commemorate is as mubtadi’ (innovators) on account of spurious claims and vague ideas, but they are saying on the basis of authentic hadith and in light of Holy Quran, such as “in the Book Pertaining to Judicial Decision (Kitab Al-Aqdiyya), 'A’isha :razi: reported Allah’s Messenger :saw2: as saying: He who innovates things in our affairs for which there is no valid (reason) (commits sin) and these are to be rejected. [Sahih Muslim - 4266]”.

Our Prophet Muhammad :saw2: did not do that, nor his successors (Khulafa-e-Rashideen), neither followers of Taba-Tabi’een ever celebrated/commemorated this day as 'Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi. This started after some 600 years and I wonder why it was started then :hmmm:

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Peace Brother LLK

You have misunderstood my contention ... Would you call going to the mosque in a car an innovation or an addition to the Deen? No ... So why do you say that those who do Mawlid have added to the Deen? ... Only until you hear them say that Mawlid is added to the affairs of RasoolAllah (SAW) ... But as argued before it is not added as a Fard, Sunnah or Wajib or Mustahab ... It is mubah ... Permissible to perform it and although the form is not the same the idea is not new ... The prophet (SAW) used to observe his birthday through fasting ... If form was important then we would never be able to do wudu with new taps, go to masjid in cars and wear our new clothes designs in our religious matters. So the form started perhaps many years later ... But so did the schools of aqidah and fiqh are technically innovations too ... But why were they set-up? They were set up to preserve the Deen ... Likewise the early Muslims had the most love for RasoolAllah (SAW) and people started to lose this love ... These practices can help preserve and return us to the love that the earlier communities had ... Time and history changed so things were set-up to counter the change that took place. The hearts changed so why criticise the act that re-aligns the hearts back to making RasoolAllah (SAW) more important to us than our own selves?

Mawlid is not an innovation ... To understand this you need to understand innovation first. Nobody believes that having a school of aqeedah or fiqh is a bid'ah ... But what if I were to say that we should not have such schools ... That is okay ... Do away with the schools ... But don't do away with the ideas from the schools ... Because they are part of the Deen ... Just like it is part of our Deen to love RasoolAllah (SAW) more than ourselves ... If you want to do away with Mawlid so be it ... But just like having a school it facilitates the fiqh to be preserved in the same way Mawlid helps to preserve the sentiments of the hearts to remain aligned with loving RasoolAllah (SAW).

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Peace brother Psyah,

Pardon me for my poor english. :hat:

Prophet :saw2: observed the fast and ordered the Muslims to fast also when He :saw2: saw Jews were fasting. Now have he ordered us to celebrate Prophet Moses’s birthday? No.

The idea of remembrance itself is not a bad idea but you must see, understand that where the majority is going on in the name of this celebration and taking this event at what level. For an example I already pm’d you.

Like you given an example of wudu with new taps, the main thing is that the rules, validation of wudu is still preserved since it is originated. Nobody will going to say that one is allowed to do wudu with toilet water or similar to that. Even the Schools of Thoughts, what they are teaching/advising is purely based on Sunnah i.e., on the basis of hadith as well as from the verses of Holy Qur’an. But as far I know, no school of thoughts ever said about commemorating birthday of Prophet :saw2: then why we are in need now? This era’s Scholars/Ulema/Shaikhs who are saying today that there is no issue in celebration of birthday of Prophet :saw2: are better then the Companions :razi: of Prophet Muhammad :saw2: ? No.

I, haven’t came across/read that the Prophet :saw2: observed fast on the day He :saw2: was born and ordered Muslims to observe fast and how permissibility of fasting on mondays due to the birth of RasoolAllah (SAW) be enough to obtain a basis for the act of celebration milad? :konfused:

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I think these are the people who are opponent of this, want to pop up the discussion time and again as they want to impose their verdict by hook or crook - as their hardcore brothers who are even killing people who do this.

Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi Mubarak

It's very simple u either celebrate it or u don't. Each to their own. No one needs to justify their faith to another.

FYi . . I will be celebrating and quite frankly what anyone else thinks doesn't bother me.

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Peace dear brother

You asked if RasoolAllah (SAW) had ordered us to celebrate Sayyiduna Musa (AS)'s birthday ... :) ... No he (SAW) didn't ... But neither am I claiming that anyone 'ordered' us to celebrate the birthday of RasoolAllah (SAW) either ... I don't believe that Mawlid is Fard or Sunnah or Wajib ... But I believe it is ja'iz to celebrate it. :)

Are we allowed to do things that were neither mentioned for us to do them or not to do them? Yes ... we are allowed to do them. If you knew the birthday of Musa (AS) and you wanted to remember him (AS) ... Is it forbidden to celebrate his (AS) birthday? No ... We cannot forbid that what is not forbidden and we cannot say something is Sunnah when it was not Sunnah ... To do either is bid'ah ...

Celebrating Mawlid is not bid'ah .... Celebrating Mawlid believing it to have Shari' ruling of Fard, Sunnah, etc ... then that would be bid'ah, yes.

I gave example of wudu and taps because one is Shari' and the other part is not Shari' ... Doing wudu with least water and covering with water so it drops is the ahsan wudu but the method of water is not restricted in the tarteeb ... Likewise we are told to love RasoolAllah (SAW) more than ourselves ... This is hukm and Shari' ... But the method of celebrating out of this love is not strictly forbidden that this way or that way should not be done. Singing, dancing to music, free mixing these are already haram ... so doing these on Mawlid or an any occasion like the marriage of our daughters is still haram ...

I'll give the Hadith inshaAllah ... But we need to realise that to call this bid'ah is a failure in understanding what a bid'ah truly is ... Mawlids that I have attended are truly blessed events ... I feel closer to him (SAW) on those occasions and love to be close to those who love him (SAW) ...

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Peace Brother LK.

I do not want this thread to get into argument on validity of celebrating Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi, and your questions brushes into that argument. I believe such argument is inappropriate on this thread, as purpose of this thread was to share greetings and happiness on this auspicious event. I will try to answer your question here, but to answer any further question (what I can) and discuss the topic, I am starting a new thread where I am putting down this post too. I hope you would not mind that.

Thread and topic heading I intend to start is:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-and-scripture/634795-eid-e-milad-ul-nabi-and-reason-we-muslims-celebrate-the-day.html

As for your questions: I believe you have done lot of reading, and you are also good in tracing information. So, when you ask for information that is easily traceable (in Quran and hadith), I feel there is something wrong somewhere.

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Anyhow, as you asked:

Regarding: ‘Days Prophets are born (and die) are blessed days’.
Above statement was for Prophets (AS) … and not just Prophet (SAW).

In Quran, it is mentioned with reference to two prophets (AS) that:

Yahya (AS): Allah mentions that the day he was born, the day he would die, and the day he would be raised again, are days of peace on him (are blessed days for him).

Isa (AS): it is mentioned in the words of Isa (AS) that the day when he was born, the day he would die, and the day he would be raised again, are all days of peace on him (would be blessed days for him).

Quran 19:15 … Allah saying about Yahya (AS): And peace on him on the day he was born, and on the day he dies, and on the day he is raised to life

Quran 19:33 … Isa (AS) saying about himself: “So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)”!

Even though Quran talks about 2 prophets [Yahya (AS) and Isa (AS)], Allah has mentioned in Quran that one cannot differentiation between Prophets (AS). Hence, what is true for one Prophet is true for all Prophets, and that means, the day prophets (AS) are born, the day Prophets (AS) die, and the day Prophets (AS) would be raised again, are blessed days.

That is what I wrote above, that is: ‘Days Prophets (AS) are born (and die) are blessed days’.

As for Prophet (SAW) I wrote: Prophet (SAW) celebrated this blessed day the way he (SAW) liked to celebrate. The way Prophet (SAW) liked to celebrate his day of birth was fasting, and there is hadith in ‘Sahi Muslim’ to confirm that.

Sahi Muslim … Book #006](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=006&translator=2&start=0&number=2606), Hadith #2606](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=006&translator=2&start=0&number=2606#2606): Abu Qatada Ansari (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Massenger (may peace be upon him) was asked about **fasting on **monday, whereupon he said: It is (the day) when I was born and revelation was sent down to me.

Difference is that, Prophet (SAW) used to celebrate his birthday every Monday as prophet (SAW) was born on Monday. But we Muslims, instead of celebrating Prophet (SAW) birthday every Monday, celebrate this blessed auspicious day every year (12 Rabi-ul-Awal).

Another difference between Muslims celebrating birthday of prophet (SAW) and way Prophet (SAW) used to celebrate is that, Prophet (SAW) used to fast on this day, as that was Prophet (SAW) preferred method of celebration. But Muslims who received Prophet (SAW) as gift celebrate by talking about Prophet (SAW) overtly in gatherings, sending Darood-o-Salaam on prophet (SAW) aggressively both overtly and covertly, and have feast to remember, acknowledge and appreciate this gift Allah gave to mankind.

One has to understand that when Muslims celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi, they are not doing it as Fard or Sunnah … even though we know that Prophet (SAW) also used to celebrate his birthday every Monday (and thus celebration itself on birth can be considered as Sunnah).

Anyhow, Muslims celebrate Eid-e-Milad ul Nabi because of their direct loving relationship and emotional connections with Prophet (SAW). Cause of celebration is to acknowledge and appreciate the gift Allah gave to mankind. So, for most Muslims, this celebration is nothing to do with fulfilling any Sunnah or command of Allah for rewards, though it can also be proven from Quran (however vaguely) that Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi is Allah’s desired celebration (that I am leaving at the moment, because all who celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi do not celebrate due to that reason).

Obviously, if one celebrates Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi as Allah desired celebration, then selfishness would come in, as then one can say that celebration is not due to love of Prophet (SAW) alone, but due to gaining good deeds and rewards from Allah for Akharat. But when one celebrates this auspicious day without any intention of rewards (on judgment day) than that celebration becomes a celebration due to pure love of Prophet (SAW), and acknowledgement of gift Allah gave to mankind.

It is just like celebrating own child’s birthday in love of the child and also to acknowledge the gift Allah gave on the day/date child was born, without desire of getting reward … hence pure celebration, without desire of any rewards … that is different matter that with such intention, it is possible that rewards from Allah would be there.

Thus personal attachment of Muslims with Prophet (SAW) and acknowledgment by Muslims of Allah’s gift to mankind is such that, Muslims celebrate Eid-e-Milad, with joy and happiness, throughout the world.

Now brother LK … what I am writing further is nothing to do with you or your post, but I am writing what I observe and feel, and thus it is message to all who feel unrest with us Muslims celebrating Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi.

Problem is not celebrating Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi or not, problem is army of Iblees (Shaitan) who do propaganda against Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi and committing haram death (suicide attacks) to kill us Muslims.

For instance, purpose of my post (and thread) was not to start arguments, but I do not know why when we Muslims follow Islam, there are always problem with some.

It is unfortunate that we find people all around, in media and day to day life, who start judging and abusing us Muslims according to their religious beliefs that we do not even consider Islamic. But then, we tolerate them and leave their matter to Allah, but not they, as they think they are guardian (theakadar) of Islam and whatever they believe, everyone has to believe, regardless of what they believe is Shaitanic beliefs as far as we are concerned.

It is also surprising how upset, restless, and agitated Iblees (Shaitan) and his army becomes when they see Muslims follow Islam, and celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi showing their remembrance, love, respect, happiness and joy on this auspicious occasion. This army of Iblees do all sorts of propaganda against Muslims beliefs, and to stop Muslims celebrating this auspicious event of Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi.

Worse is that, when these ‘army of Shaitan’ do not succeed in making Muslims adopt their beliefs, and stop celebration Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi (and our remembrance of sad Karbela events in Muharram), they get depressed, and in their desperation, they even attack our celebration and our mourning with their haram jahannumi death (suicide attacks). In the process, many Muslims get Shaheed, but Muslims keep showing their love towards Prophet (SAW) and his family, every year all over the world, showing acknowledgment and appreciation towards gift that Allah gave to mankind, and celebrate this blessed day whole-heartedly, knowing the danger to their life from army of Shaitan and their propaganda.****

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Salam Alaikum

They apply this hadith to everything that suits them. In truth when all the Sunnah is gathered there is different classifications of Innovation

To prefer select Hadiths over the whole Sunnah is not from the methods of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama’ah. The permissibility of Mawlid is from Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama’ah

To be thankful for the Birth and Sending of the Prophet peace and blessing upon him and his family is Wajib

To hold gatherings to commemorate this occasion is Mustahab and if we want to be conservative it is Jaiz. To say it is Bidah Dalala (bad innovation) is a crime as to commemorate Milad un Nabi peace and blessing upon him and his family is certainly a Sunnah (every Monday Hadith, and the celebration of the People of Medina when the Prophet peace and blessings upon him and his family came to Medina)

So what’s left? well there is issues which Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama’ah are trying to perfect like to have the occasions on more days then one a year. In the spirit of how Milad Un Nabi was commemorated by the Prophet peace and blessings upon him and his companions, it should be done every day and in gatherings.

Also for the Milad Un Nabi gatherings to have started after 600 years is lie. the Books on Milad un Nabi were written at that time and earlier then that:

http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/attachment.php?attachmentid=1199&d=1389299616

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Selected quotes from the given link:

Imam Abdur Rehman bin umar Auzaaee 156 A.H wrote a book on Mawlid, which has been published from Beirut.

Imitation of another religion can fall into four categories,
 Obligatory
 Permissible
 Disliked
 Forbidden

There is no proof to suggest that the Non-Muslims use to celebrate birthdays
before the Muslims started to celebrate Mawlid.

There is no proof in Quran and Hadith or in any classical book, that tells us that
Muslims have imitated the kuffar in celebrating birthdays.

Our format of celebrating Mawlid is both Islamic and different to the format of
the kuffar

Hafiz Ibn Kathir writes in Albiddiya wal Niayyah:
The devil screamed on four occasion; one when he was cursed by Allah Almighty, one
when he was removed from the Heaven, One when it was the Birthday of the Holy **
**Prophet, may salaam be upon him
, one when surah Fatiha was sent down

So its proven the day the Holy Prophet, may salaam be upon him, was born, was the day
Tawheed conquered Shirk. Shirk was defeated never to show its face again. And this was
the day the Zikr of Allah started, never to stop again. And the lovers of the Holy Prophet,
may salaam be upon him, honored this day accordingly

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Not that I am for it or against but the question popped into my head while going through this thread.

If the prophet was alive today and his birthday came around, how would we treat the day?
When did celebrating birthdays become mandatory, not mandatory, changing the deen and any of those things. We gather in masjids on many other special days of the year, why would this be any different. It does not have to be directly related to what the Quran tells us or not tells us to do, but why not just out of pure respect and fondness of our leader and his remembrance particularly on the day he was born. I am wondering why people would be opposed to it. Whats wrong with celebrating a birthday? Most celebrate their own so why be opposed to it this time?

I would get it if like we like Johava's witnesses didnt celebrate anything. Birthdays, partys, they don't even pledge allegiance to countries and flags. In that case, I would get it. In this regard, I don't.

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bolded part is bigotry and intolerance to those who dont celebrate it as eid out of sharia compliance intent. not celebrating it as eid doesnt imply disrespect to Prophet (SAW).